No sense!

praks · Jul 27th, 2005, 16:44

There are many people I know who are sailing in the same boat as you and some have even told me that it is a form of escape but trekking and climbing are as much a form of healthy recreation as any other sport. The risks taken are calculated and in fact, in trekking the risks are absolutely minimal compared to the sheer enjoyment and exhilaration that one gets. Being a non competitive sport, you get different levels and grades of difficulty making this a recreation activity which can be enjoyed by all, irrespective of age, gender or ability. Unless you give it a go, you will never know.

skell · Jul 27th, 2005, 22:56

Praks, I think you are being far too rational for this thread!

Kingfisher · Jul 27th, 2005, 23:07

At least the thread title is a reasonable summary of what follows.

AvidTrekker · Jul 27th, 2005, 23:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by skell

Praks, I think you are being far too rational for this thread!

skell, the man just become a member six hours ago.... give him some time.... he'll discover how to get into the "thick of things" [ profound debates on IM

]

skell · Jul 28th, 2005, 08:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by AvidTrekker

skell, the man just become a member six hours ago.... give him some time.... he'll discover how to get into the "thick of things" [ profound debates on IM

]

Oh. Sorry Praks!

Ikuru · Jul 28th, 2005, 18:54

There is a verry good documentery/movie on the subject...
the name is "Touching the void". Exiting and dramatic stuff, really worth while...

More info Bitte.

Rob_The_Pom · Jul 28th, 2005, 19:01

Touching the Void defies belief - how someone could go through that much and still survive.
The book is a great read as well.

RTP

praks · Jul 29th, 2005, 12:54

Whenever I go trekking or climbing, I have been asked by quite a few people as to what I get out of it and I think it is a genuine question. To put in so much time, effort and money in climbing a mountain, risking life and limb and getting no visible rewards in return is incomprehensible to many like the OP. There is no rational answer to this question. Mallory said, "Because it is there". I say, "To see what's on the other side" but then I am asked, "Why don't you go round it instead of over it?". There is no rational answer. And I am definitely not interested in convincing such sceptics. To each his/her own.

agni5454 · Jul 29th, 2005, 18:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ikuru

There is a verry good documentery/movie on the subject...
the name is "Touching the void". Exiting and dramatic stuff, really worth while...

More info Bitte.

who is on your avatar now?

Ikuru · Jul 29th, 2005, 19:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by agni5454

who is on your avatar now?

Some good looking (almost divine huh?) South American girl... God knows who... She just came up on my google...

MeCasa · Jul 31st, 2005, 22:16

If this was troll, it was a decent troll. Eleven pages of decent discussion.

I've been taking all sorts of adventure trips for most of my life, its what I do, but if I don't get extremely dejected, rejected, depressed and mad in the middle of a trip it wasn't much of a trip.

Hasn't anybody made a climb and 3/4's of the way up decided that you were out of your league and were no doubt a dead man. Has nobody ever hated their backpack and thought the extra 3" of strapping was making it heavy. Ever looked at friends as if they could be food, with peaches as desert, as if you had peaches. Ever roared down a road on a cycle when the weather was was 19F, it was starting to rain but if you stopped that cold front would catch you and you'd be eternally laid up, so you go faster all the time knowing that you're going down on the next bridge..

Has nobody hung your head in your hands and said "what the hell was I thinkin when I came up with this plan?"

Aristocrat's question was fair

The answer is

"Hell if I know"

Rob_The_Pom · Aug 1st, 2005, 00:19

Top post #161!

sgeneris · Aug 1st, 2005, 00:39

No Sense,

It makes me no sense to me when I read people with location as Disney World.

Ikuru · Aug 1st, 2005, 05:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by sgeneris

No Sense,

It makes me no sense to me when I read people with location as Disney World.

Whats wrong with Dizney Worldz? Don´t you Like Pluto?

camelgirl · Aug 1st, 2005, 05:54

This thread has been a strange journey! Decided to add my "mature IM" opinion, since I'm practically a blue haired lady!

I only trekked once in my life and was talked into it by my boyfriend (now husband) in 1981 in Nepal. I am not athletic in any way and my main "training" was 2 weeks walking around Darjeeling, wheezing up and down the hills. I carried a tiny daypack with no changes of clothes, just enough to layer on and off as the day got hot or cool. He carried both our sleeping bags in a bigger pack. We had no guides, no nothing. I wore a pair of $5 sneakers I got at Bata in New Delhi. We did 9 days on the Annapurna route, up to Gorapani and back. I whined the whole way

and we became "famous" for being the last ones in every evening

Several times I begged him to just leave me by the side of the trail I was so exhausted. He waited

(guess that's why I married him 4 years later).

I have a picture somewhere that was taken on our last day heading into Pokara when we took a "shortcut" down the mountain and basically it was hot, difficult and NOT shorter--I flung my daypack down and whined somemore

It was one of my best memories of anything I ever did in my life and we made friends with people along the way who we still see regularly who live in Holland and Canada!

I'll never do it again but I'll never forget it! It was fantastic!!

Jul 27th, 2005, 16:44	#151
praks Senile Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 326	No sense There are many people I know who are sailing in the same boat as you and some have even told me that it is a form of escape but trekking and climbing are as much a form of healthy recreation as any other sport. The risks taken are calculated and in fact, in trekking the risks are absolutely minimal compared to the sheer enjoyment and exhilaration that one gets. Being a non competitive sport, you get different levels and grades of difficulty making this a recreation activity which can be enjoyed by all, irrespective of age, gender or ability. Unless you give it a go, you will never know.

Jul 27th, 2005, 23:07	#153
Kingfisher slow typing member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: west coast canada Posts: 118	At least the thread title is a reasonable summary of what follows. Attached Thumbnails

Jul 28th, 2005, 18:54	#156
Ikuru the only "end" is "you" Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: infront of the screen Posts: 1,913	There is a verry good documentery/movie on the subject... the name is "Touching the void". Exiting and dramatic stuff, really worth while... More info Bitte. __________________ http://www.ikuru.se My art.

Jul 28th, 2005, 19:01	#157
Rob_The_Pom offcourse essentric Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 1,299	Touching the Void defies belief - how someone could go through that much and still survive. The book is a great read as well. RTP __________________ There is no God but Dawkins and Hitchens is his prophet.

Jul 29th, 2005, 12:54	#158
praks Senile Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 326	rational answer Whenever I go trekking or climbing, I have been asked by quite a few people as to what I get out of it and I think it is a genuine question. To put in so much time, effort and money in climbing a mountain, risking life and limb and getting no visible rewards in return is incomprehensible to many like the OP. There is no rational answer to this question. Mallory said, "Because it is there". I say, "To see what's on the other side" but then I am asked, "Why don't you go round it instead of over it?". There is no rational answer. And I am definitely not interested in convincing such sceptics. To each his/her own.

Jul 27th, 2005, 22:56	#152
skell Maha Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The OC Posts: 975	Praks, I think you are being far too rational for this thread!

Jul 31st, 2005, 22:16	#161
MeCasa Account Closed Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Texas/New York Posts: 959	If this was troll, it was a decent troll. Eleven pages of decent discussion. I've been taking all sorts of adventure trips for most of my life, its what I do, but if I don't get extremely dejected, rejected, depressed and mad in the middle of a trip it wasn't much of a trip. Hasn't anybody made a climb and 3/4's of the way up decided that you were out of your league and were no doubt a dead man. Has nobody ever hated their backpack and thought the extra 3" of strapping was making it heavy. Ever looked at friends as if they could be food, with peaches as desert, as if you had peaches. Ever roared down a road on a cycle when the weather was was 19F, it was starting to rain but if you stopped that cold front would catch you and you'd be eternally laid up, so you go faster all the time knowing that you're going down on the next bridge.. Has nobody hung your head in your hands and said "what the hell was I thinkin when I came up with this plan?" Aristocrat's question was fair The answer is "Hell if I know"

Aug 1st, 2005, 00:19	#162
Rob_The_Pom offcourse essentric Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 1,299	Top post #161!

Aug 1st, 2005, 00:39	#163
sgeneris Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: usa Posts: 132	No Sense, It makes me no sense to me when I read people with location as Disney World.

Aug 1st, 2005, 05:54	#165
camelgirl 10 year Visa okee dokee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Swannanoa NC usa Posts: 1,082	2 rupees worth This thread has been a strange journey! Decided to add my "mature IM" opinion, since I'm practically a blue haired lady! I only trekked once in my life and was talked into it by my boyfriend (now husband) in 1981 in Nepal. I am not athletic in any way and my main "training" was 2 weeks walking around Darjeeling, wheezing up and down the hills. I carried a tiny daypack with no changes of clothes, just enough to layer on and off as the day got hot or cool. He carried both our sleeping bags in a bigger pack. We had no guides, no nothing. I wore a pair of $5 sneakers I got at Bata in New Delhi. We did 9 days on the Annapurna route, up to Gorapani and back. I whined the whole way and we became "famous" for being the last ones in every evening Several times I begged him to just leave me by the side of the trail I was so exhausted. He waited (guess that's why I married him 4 years later). I have a picture somewhere that was taken on our last day heading into Pokara when we took a "shortcut" down the mountain and basically it was hot, difficult and NOT shorter--I flung my daypack down and whined somemore It was one of my best memories of anything I ever did in my life and we made friends with people along the way who we still see regularly who live in Holland and Canada! I'll never do it again but I'll never forget it! It was fantastic!! Last edited by camelgirl : Aug 1st, 2005 at 20:12. Reason: losing my marbles, never been to Dharemsala, it was Darjeeling

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