NIM - Nehru Institute of Mountaineering

j3131 · Feb 28th, 2006, 13:59

hi. i did the course in Mar last year. enjoyed myself greatly.

its a physically demanding course, but you can do it. make sure that you are superfit. try increasing your CardioVascular endurance by starting out Running. get used to carrying a heavy backpack. try walking up stairs with a loaded backpack. that should help.

carry at leas 4 pairs of woollen sock, some light synthetic/cotton socks, 2 track pants, at leat 2 pairs of woollen gloves, sunscreen, hat, balaclava, full sleeved T-shirts, a torch light. besides others. (most given in the brochure, but the ones mentioned above are very important).

rohan5577 · Feb 28th, 2006, 15:15

I recently did this trip as a part of a corporate group, at a place called Camp Kyari, where we lived in Mud Huts and undertook a 16 km trek through the corbett forest. I must say it is a demanding trek for some people at least.

I am scheduled to take another similar trek around the good friday weekend in April and will be leaving from Delhi.

A list of must haves

1. A pair of floaters (maybe 2, as you cross the river a number of times on this trek)

2. Mosquito repellant (April may be the mosquito season)

3. A pair of sneaker shoes

4. A few cargo shorts/ cargoes

5. A light rucksack.

6. A torch with extra batteries

These are the few that come to mind as of now. Remember to travel light.

We can touch base in your are planning to leave from Delhi.

Cheers,

Rohan

cliffhanger · Mar 2nd, 2006, 00:37

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Originally Posted by rahul550

Dear Cliffhanger,

I learned the hard way that cotton socks are to be avoided in the mountains perticularly when the aproach march is longer (typically NIM aproach march will be in the order of 10 Kms., the route will be Steeper if the distance is lesser!!!). You see, the technical reason behind this advice is that :
The cotton has a typical property of high absorption also known as wicking effect. So it gets wet very quickly due to sweat and sticks to your foot skin. Now, as you continue to march ahead it makes your skin softer and hotter due to continious rubbing, perticularly near the toe and heel regions. The added heat being generated causes hot spots all around the toe and heel. These look like red spots and generally feel like burning sensation. Theae may continue to hurt even after you wash your feet and the feet become dry. If you continue to wear these socks (cotton ones) they make the matter worse after each day and ultimately you end up with huge blood filled blisters making walking hellish.

I aproached one of the instructors with the problem and he asked me only one question " What are socks you are wearing and how long?" I got my answer!!! The cotton socke are no doubt good in plain walking and are comfortable too but all the trouble could be avoided by doing the following:

1. Wear nylon socks on aproach marches (Fresh ones and properly dried ones).

2. Do the laces of your shoes tightly. So that your foot does not move inside the shoe too much.

3. Take time to open your shoe at the longer period rest stops and reversing the socks and interchanging them. (left socks in right foot and right socks in left foot).

4. After reaching the camp immidiately remove the shoes and wash your feet. Dry them and apply some anti fungal foot powder. A little messaging also helps to improve circulation and healing.

5. Keep at least two pairs of socks and wash the socks used daily so that the one washed today is ready for use tomorrow. You can do this with nylon socks which do not absorb more moisture, are lesss in weight, don't get soggy even when wet and dry very quickly.

Hope, you will agree, experience is the best teacher. I had read about this in my mountineering handbooks but didn't take it seriously.

Nice to share information with you. Hey this is how we can learn more and this is exactly what this forum is all about. Sharing personal experiences and growing ....

Have a wonderful day,

Rahul.

Hi Rahul.
i dont know about ur insrtuctor in NIM, but my instructor in HMI sujjested me to wear cotton socks. of corse he may be wrong or it is possible that both can be used in different situation. during expeditions in high altitude sometimes u cant get enough water to wash ur socks regularly , and nylon socks sweats and smells a lot, and it is better to wear a cotton sock inside a woolen sock ....and i am usinsing cotton socks for a long time and i havent faced any problem yet and as avid has told it may be a highly individual thing

...

and yes it is great to share each others information and passion also.....

cliffhanger · Mar 2nd, 2006, 00:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by rohan5577

I recently did this trip as a part of a corporate group, at a place called Camp Kyari, where we lived in Mud Huts and undertook a 16 km trek through the corbett forest. I must say it is a demanding trek for some people at least.

I am scheduled to take another similar trek around the good friday weekend in April and will be leaving from Delhi.

A list of must haves

1. A pair of floaters (maybe 2, as you cross the river a number of times on this trek)

2. Mosquito repellant (April may be the mosquito season)

3. A pair of sneaker shoes

4. A few cargo shorts/ cargoes

5. A light rucksack.

6. A torch with extra batteries

These are the few that come to mind as of now. Remember to travel light.

We can touch base in your are planning to leave from Delhi.

Cheers,

Rohan

Hi rohan,
i wont sujjest any body to take this things during course....2pairs of floters wont be necessary.....no need for mosquito repellent.....and avoid shorts....

JIMCORBET · Mar 2nd, 2006, 11:21

Thank You All
Yeah i know it will be Exhausting , passion can drive you to do anything .
How safe is to carry stuff like camera's , i have a professional camera .i want to capture some great photographs there's.:cool

Thanks Again

Sunaina

rohan5577 · Mar 2nd, 2006, 11:47

Shorts worked well for me this time, but yes the trek does get thorny in most places, and on second thoughts cargo/track pants would suffice--if you don't mind getting them wet frequently! I would argue for the floaters though, and again thats a personal liking as I don't like feet soaked in wet shoes.

Sunaina, carrying a camera should be safe, a few colleagues of mine did carry it! An yes the trek is beautiful indeed, worth the extra efforts.

Rohan

cliffhanger · Mar 3rd, 2006, 00:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by JIMCORBET

Thank You All
Yeah i know it will be Exhausting , passion can drive you to do anything .
How safe is to carry stuff like camera's , i have a professional camera .i want to capture some great photographs there's.:cool

Thanks Again

Sunaina

Hi Sunaina, it is safe top carry ur professional camera.....but be careful and keep an eye on it as there ar lots of people and u cant trust every one of them.....and if it is heavy i will suggest you not to carry it, for u have to carry a lot of load . and if u think u can still manage dont think otherwise....and dont forget to post the pics....

JIMCORBET · Mar 10th, 2006, 00:48

Thanks ,,
Yes remeber guys to check out the photographs by this lady in april .
Will be leaving on 23 rd May ,,thanks rohan, Cliffhanger ,j3131 and rest .

Naina

realmacoy · Mar 10th, 2006, 01:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by JIMCORBET

Hi

Am going or basic mount cource in May in uttarkashi at (NIM) , anyone going from delhi ,gurgaon or anyone india-mikean's going .We can join here .

anyone whos done it , can tel me what are the MUST to take along ?

Great help

Naina

hi there,
I am a total novice as regards trekking but at the same time i am a very adventurous person...never done any serious trekking but have gone many a places in the mountaons....suggest if this course will help me....also i am from delhi and would only be glad to join u in this trip of urs.....mail me at ajaysahrawat@hotmail.com....re gards ajay

shailen · Mar 10th, 2006, 09:39

Just joined in. Was wondering for so long if sth like this exists on net. I was nominated for this course in MAr 2006 but then sth urgent came up and I had to skip. Will be going next year. Was wondering which one is better NIM or HMI. Saw a divided opinion. But I'll prefer NIM as I luv shivalik ranges and the beauty I believe is more raw there.
Have been to Dodital, Darvatop areas last year.

I happen to stumble on this site and was amazed to see so many of you interseted in trekking and actively pursuing it too.
Hats off to all you guys..

krk · Mar 16th, 2006, 13:23

Hey all,
I too quite often get questioned about doing basic & advanced courses. One thing I notice is that, more than 90% of the people who go to do these courses are never going to climb any mountain.
The point is, if you are _really_ interested in climbing/mountaineering and feel that you lack the skills, then join it. Most people I met there simply did the course for one of (my friend said its a nice experience/ its free (coming from NCC/armed forces)/ cheapest way to stay in himalayas etc).

Most people who trek in the himalayas would gain such skills (except maybe the really technical ones) over the course of a few treks . The technical skills rarely get used on treks.
And climbing skills, just like any other skills need constant practice to keep it honed. There are rock climbers in Bangalore whose skills are topnotch ,but they have never been to the himalayas. So dont kid yourself while your are on your first expedition , that good belaying technique would accrue from what you did 2 years ago in the course..

just my 2 cents err..paise.

NEVSAY_D · Mar 16th, 2006, 14:39

wel..to climb most of the peaks in the Himalayas ,the IMF wud ask u for some kinda climbin traing that u went thru from ny of the recognised mountaineering schools, be it NIM,HMI,DMAS,etc....thats one of the main reasons y serious climbers go for it.

IMF rules-

6) Qualification for Leaders and Deputy Leaders

a) Advance Mountaineering Course with "A" grading from a recognised Mountaineering Institute; and

b) Participation in or at least two well-organised expeditions to peaks of above 6,500 metres, with climbs to a height of at least 6000 metres.

7) Qualification for members:

a) Minimum Basic Mountaineering Course for the participant from a recognised Mountaineering Institute, but 1/3rd members of the expedition should have done advance Mountaineering Course.

b) 25% of the participants should have done at least once well-organised expedition to a peak of and above 6000 metres.

www.indmount.org

joemondal · Apr 9th, 2006, 15:50

What is a 'courcer' ???

zzzehar · Apr 11th, 2006, 08:21

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Originally Posted by joemondal

What is a 'courcer' ???

I think she meant "course"

anindya911 · Apr 11th, 2006, 17:25

Hi JC

During the course while you are panting & swearing breathlessly under the killer weight of your sack (Plus the gears) just to kill the gap (which is increasing by the second) between you and the trekker front of you just remind yourself that this is what YOU only have done to yourself and its the DREAM; that you have longed for.

It helped me to get over the course (or to curse myself more), whatever.

Best of Luck and most of all have fun.

Feb 28th, 2006, 13:59	#16
j3131 Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 13	hi. i did the course in Mar last year. enjoyed myself greatly. its a physically demanding course, but you can do it. make sure that you are superfit. try increasing your CardioVascular endurance by starting out Running. get used to carrying a heavy backpack. try walking up stairs with a loaded backpack. that should help. carry at leas 4 pairs of woollen sock, some light synthetic/cotton socks, 2 track pants, at leat 2 pairs of woollen gloves, sunscreen, hat, balaclava, full sleeved T-shirts, a torch light. besides others. (most given in the brochure, but the ones mentioned above are very important). Last edited by Dilliwala : Sep 17th, 2008 at 01:43. Reason: merge posts

Feb 28th, 2006, 15:15	#17
rohan5577 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Dubai--for now Posts: 240	I recently did this trip as a part of a corporate group, at a place called Camp Kyari, where we lived in Mud Huts and undertook a 16 km trek through the corbett forest. I must say it is a demanding trek for some people at least. I am scheduled to take another similar trek around the good friday weekend in April and will be leaving from Delhi. A list of must haves 1. A pair of floaters (maybe 2, as you cross the river a number of times on this trek) 2. Mosquito repellant (April may be the mosquito season) 3. A pair of sneaker shoes 4. A few cargo shorts/ cargoes 5. A light rucksack. 6. A torch with extra batteries These are the few that come to mind as of now. Remember to travel light. We can touch base in your are planning to leave from Delhi. Cheers, Rohan __________________ You can take a man out of India, but you can never take India out of a man!

Mar 10th, 2006, 09:39	#25
shailen Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dharamshala Posts: 8	Just joined in. Was wondering for so long if sth like this exists on net. I was nominated for this course in MAr 2006 but then sth urgent came up and I had to skip. Will be going next year. Was wondering which one is better NIM or HMI. Saw a divided opinion. But I'll prefer NIM as I luv shivalik ranges and the beauty I believe is more raw there. Have been to Dodital, Darvatop areas last year. I happen to stumble on this site and was amazed to see so many of you interseted in trekking and actively pursuing it too. Hats off to all you guys.. Last edited by Dilliwala : Sep 28th, 2008 at 06:52. Reason: merge posts

Apr 11th, 2006, 17:25	#30
anindya911 Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 368	Hi JC During the course while you are panting & swearing breathlessly under the killer weight of your sack (Plus the gears) just to kill the gap (which is increasing by the second) between you and the trekker front of you just remind yourself that this is what YOU only have done to yourself and its the DREAM; that you have longed for. It helped me to get over the course (or to curse myself more), whatever. Best of Luck and most of all have fun. __________________ Let Your mind roam ... and the body will follow!

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Mar 2nd, 2006, 11:21	#20
JIMCORBET JIMCORBET GAL Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 31	Thank You All Yeah i know it will be Exhausting , passion can drive you to do anything . How safe is to carry stuff like camera's , i have a professional camera .i want to capture some great photographs there's.:cool Thanks Again Sunaina

Mar 2nd, 2006, 11:47	#21
rohan5577 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Dubai--for now Posts: 240	Shorts worked well for me this time, but yes the trek does get thorny in most places, and on second thoughts cargo/track pants would suffice--if you don't mind getting them wet frequently! I would argue for the floaters though, and again thats a personal liking as I don't like feet soaked in wet shoes. Sunaina, carrying a camera should be safe, a few colleagues of mine did carry it! An yes the trek is beautiful indeed, worth the extra efforts. Rohan

Mar 10th, 2006, 00:48	#23
JIMCORBET JIMCORBET GAL Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 31	Thanks ,, Yes remeber guys to check out the photographs by this lady in april . Will be leaving on 23 rd May ,,thanks rohan, Cliffhanger ,j3131 and rest . Naina

Mar 16th, 2006, 13:23	#26
krk Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 9	Hey all, I too quite often get questioned about doing basic & advanced courses. One thing I notice is that, more than 90% of the people who go to do these courses are never going to climb any mountain. The point is, if you are _really_ interested in climbing/mountaineering and feel that you lack the skills, then join it. Most people I met there simply did the course for one of (my friend said its a nice experience/ its free (coming from NCC/armed forces)/ cheapest way to stay in himalayas etc). Most people who trek in the himalayas would gain such skills (except maybe the really technical ones) over the course of a few treks . The technical skills rarely get used on treks. And climbing skills, just like any other skills need constant practice to keep it honed. There are rock climbers in Bangalore whose skills are topnotch ,but they have never been to the himalayas. So dont kid yourself while your are on your first expedition , that good belaying technique would accrue from what you did 2 years ago in the course.. just my 2 cents err..paise.

Mar 16th, 2006, 14:39	#27
NEVSAY_D CLIMB CLIMB CLIMB Join Date: May 2005 Location: Delhi Posts: 62	wel..to climb most of the peaks in the Himalayas ,the IMF wud ask u for some kinda climbin traing that u went thru from ny of the recognised mountaineering schools, be it NIM,HMI,DMAS,etc....thats one of the main reasons y serious climbers go for it. IMF rules- 6) Qualification for Leaders and Deputy Leaders a) Advance Mountaineering Course with "A" grading from a recognised Mountaineering Institute; and b) Participation in or at least two well-organised expeditions to peaks of above 6,500 metres, with climbs to a height of at least 6000 metres. 7) Qualification for members: a) Minimum Basic Mountaineering Course for the participant from a recognised Mountaineering Institute, but 1/3rd members of the expedition should have done advance Mountaineering Course. b) 25% of the participants should have done at least once well-organised expedition to a peak of and above 6000 metres. www.indmount.org

Apr 9th, 2006, 15:50	#28
joemondal Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Calcutta Posts: 44	What is a 'courcer' ???

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