most difficult trek in Himalayas ??

Angelina · Mar 28th, 2007, 19:03

wondering if we could take an opinion poll on which is the hardest trek in the entire Himalayas ... in all aspects ?

kidsan · Mar 28th, 2007, 19:35

well, i imagine it could be the one that took in all the 8000mt peaks!! though i imagine you might mean some sort of officially recognised trek?

AvidTrekker · Mar 29th, 2007, 02:34

Very subjective question....

If you require crampons, ice axe, ropes etc, it becomes a tough trek or some would call it an "easy mountaineering expedition"

What is the definition of "trek" as opposed to expedition? The same trek e.g. Pin Parvati Pass which I crossed in September cannot be crossed in February unless one is prepared for heavy snow and ice....

joemondal · Apr 1st, 2007, 14:43

Hi all

IMHO, some treks involving high altitudes (above 16000ft) and technical sections which necessitate the use of equipment may be termed as 'expedition type trekking'. Anything beyond/above that is a 'mountaineering expedition' which involves setting up of base camps from where multiple/single assault(s)/attempt(s) to summit a peak is undertaken - a peak may be any summit which has a minimum of three ridges flowing from it.

Having said that, it can be noted some treks are no less difficult than some mountaineering expeditions.

Again, IMHO, the Kalindi Khal, Auden's Col may be such treks. And not forgetting a trek over Traill's Pass and Satopanth Col would be certainly more challenging.
And Avid's right - even a simple trek (though Pin Parvati is not one) could become difficult because of the weather.

cheers

Outdoor Adventure · Apr 1st, 2007, 17:33

Well the route taken by Shipton & Tilman on this traverse seems to be most difficult after reading their experience.

Happy outdoor,

Outdoor Adventure

jyotipg · Apr 3rd, 2007, 21:37

kalindi is relatively easier based on exp on others.

Dhumdhar kandi would be a real challenging one.

joemondal · Apr 4th, 2007, 14:26

Dhumdhar Kandi is quite difficult, no doubt about it!
But, Kalindi is more popular, certainly not easier.
It is a long march along lateral moraine with the possibility of an avalanche near Avalanche Peak. And, at 5960mts/19548ft ordinary tasks begin to become strenuous. One must not forget people have lost their lives on the Arwa Glacier which could be a death-trap at (wrong)times. My friend Vishnu Semuel who is a guide from Uttarkashi got frost-bitten in his toe in this region while he witnessed his colleagues perish.

My point is - go for this trek by all means, but not with the wrong notion about the degree of difficulty involved. It could be a life-saver in the end.
cheers

joe

marshaltit · Apr 4th, 2007, 14:32

what about bhuinder khal? though it is a very uncommon trek.

aviram · Apr 4th, 2007, 14:57

Mt Kanchenjunga is the most difficult, and Nanga Parbat(in pakistan occupied kashmir) is also right up there

AvidTrekker · Apr 4th, 2007, 17:20

After reading post # 9..... What I feared has happened.

People are confusing mountaineering with trekking !!!

For example, Mt Kangchendzonga and Nanga Parbat Rupal face are extreme climbs for even die hard mountaineers !

VSK Sharma · Apr 4th, 2007, 22:24

Hi,
An interesting thread to go through. Avidtrekker had cleared the matter in his first posting itself. Nothing more to add.

ac100 · Nov 8th, 2009, 19:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by VSK Sharma

Hi,
An interesting thread to go through. Avidtrekker had cleared the matter in his first posting itself. Nothing more to add.

quite so!!
there has to be a definite line between what we call
a. trekking-expeditions &
b. mountaineering expeditions.

few which comes to my mind are:

lamkhaga pass
yamunotri pass (one which connects ruinsara tal trail to yamunotri)
DDK
badri - kedar (via panpatia)
kagbhusand khal?

ac100 · Nov 9th, 2009, 03:31

traill's pass
borasu pass
yangzi diwan pass

ananda2193 · Nov 9th, 2009, 05:30

new life to an old thread, but isn't k2 supposed to be very difficult.

Mar 28th, 2007, 19:03	#1
Angelina Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: India Posts: 21	most difficult trek in Himalayas ?? wondering if we could take an opinion poll on which is the hardest trek in the entire Himalayas ... in all aspects ?

Mar 29th, 2007, 02:34	#3
AvidTrekker Veda Chanting & Mantra Yoga teacher Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: body in Mumbai, head in Himalaya Posts: 2,819	Subjective... Very subjective question.... If you require crampons, ice axe, ropes etc, it becomes a tough trek or some would call it an "easy mountaineering expedition" What is the definition of "trek" as opposed to expedition? The same trek e.g. Pin Parvati Pass which I crossed in September cannot be crossed in February unless one is prepared for heavy snow and ice.... __________________ The Universe is an ellipsoid?... or a Spheroid?? If the sphere smiles... it becomes an ellipse. This IS Creation.

Apr 1st, 2007, 17:33	#5
Outdoor Adventure Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Indore Posts: 43	Badri Kedar Traverse Well the route taken by Shipton & Tilman on this traverse seems to be most difficult after reading their experience. Happy outdoor, Outdoor Adventure

Apr 3rd, 2007, 21:37	#6
jyotipg Maha Guru Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 586	kalindi is relatively easier based on exp on others. Dhumdhar kandi would be a real challenging one. __________________ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/himalaya_trekkers/ 1995 - 2000: Beas Kund, Triundh, Chudhar peak,Dodital. 2001-till date: Tapovan, Khatling,Mayali Pass(Unsuccessful), Rudranath, Chandrashila peak, Pin Parvati Pass, Kalindi Pass, Mt. Yunum(Aborted), Roopkund, Junargali pass, Ronti Saddle.

Apr 4th, 2007, 14:57	#9
aviram http://vijh.blogspot.com Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bombay Posts: 196	Kanchenjunga Mt Kanchenjunga is the most difficult, and Nanga Parbat(in pakistan occupied kashmir) is also right up there __________________ "I cannot see the plains without a shudder...O God not the plains..not the plains"

Mar 28th, 2007, 19:35	#2
kidsan Maha Guru Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Nouakchott Posts: 773	well, i imagine it could be the one that took in all the 8000mt peaks!! though i imagine you might mean some sort of officially recognised trek?

Apr 1st, 2007, 14:43	#4
joemondal Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Calcutta Posts: 45	Hi all IMHO, some treks involving high altitudes (above 16000ft) and technical sections which necessitate the use of equipment may be termed as 'expedition type trekking'. Anything beyond/above that is a 'mountaineering expedition' which involves setting up of base camps from where multiple/single assault(s)/attempt(s) to summit a peak is undertaken - a peak may be any summit which has a minimum of three ridges flowing from it. Having said that, it can be noted some treks are no less difficult than some mountaineering expeditions. Again, IMHO, the Kalindi Khal, Auden's Col may be such treks. And not forgetting a trek over Traill's Pass and Satopanth Col would be certainly more challenging. And Avid's right - even a simple trek (though Pin Parvati is not one) could become difficult because of the weather. cheers

Apr 4th, 2007, 14:26	#7
joemondal Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Calcutta Posts: 45	Dhumdhar Kandi is quite difficult, no doubt about it! But, Kalindi is more popular, certainly not easier. It is a long march along lateral moraine with the possibility of an avalanche near Avalanche Peak. And, at 5960mts/19548ft ordinary tasks begin to become strenuous. One must not forget people have lost their lives on the Arwa Glacier which could be a death-trap at (wrong)times. My friend Vishnu Semuel who is a guide from Uttarkashi got frost-bitten in his toe in this region while he witnessed his colleagues perish. My point is - go for this trek by all means, but not with the wrong notion about the degree of difficulty involved. It could be a life-saver in the end. cheers joe

Apr 4th, 2007, 14:32	#8
marshaltit Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: durgapur,west bengal Posts: 19	what about bhuinder khal? though it is a very uncommon trek.

Apr 4th, 2007, 17:20	#10
AvidTrekker Veda Chanting & Mantra Yoga teacher Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: body in Mumbai, head in Himalaya Posts: 2,819	Mountaineering??? After reading post # 9..... What I feared has happened. People are confusing mountaineering with trekking !!! For example, Mt Kangchendzonga and Nanga Parbat Rupal face are extreme climbs for even die hard mountaineers !

Apr 4th, 2007, 22:24	#11
VSK Sharma Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pune,India Posts: 425	Hi, An interesting thread to go through. Avidtrekker had cleared the matter in his first posting itself. Nothing more to add.

Nov 9th, 2009, 03:31	#13
ac100 Alien inside Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Kolkata, W.B. Posts: 210	traill's pass borasu pass yangzi diwan pass

Nov 9th, 2009, 05:30	#14
ananda2193 Maha Guru Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: you essay Posts: 1,897	new life to an old thread, but isn't k2 supposed to be very difficult.

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