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#16 Aug 13th, 2006, 07:16
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Mia,
As others have said the rout to Gaumukh is easy enought to follow without a guide; however you'll need a guide to get to Tabovan. The trek from Gaumukh to Tabovan is only 2-3 hours, but it is exhausting and not easy to measure it in terms of kms as it picks it way over the glacier (a guide is VERY helpful here) and it follows some switch backs up a scree slope out of the glacial valley. This route is also subject to change due to slides.

Its very exahusting unless you are in very prcticed trekking condition and fairly accimatized to the effects of the altitude.

Tapovan is a beautful place and you would likely see the blue sheep (mountain goats), I went in September and the weather was starting to get VERY wet and cool. October may be pusing it if you want a rewarding trip.

Cheers.
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thnx, BM. will keep that in mind.
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Gaumukh Trek

To all experienced trekkers,

I am planning trek to Gangotri - Gaumukh - Gangotri on 22nd.Sept 2009. I hope that the weather will be clear that time..

Can anyone help me to know whether I will be able to get the required permit from DFO's office in a single day? What is the permit fee? I read that I have to take permit for my guide and porter, but as I am planning to take guide and/or porter from Gangotri, then how it is possible to make permit for them beforehand without knowing their details?

Also, if I plan to venture Tapovan from Gaumukh then shall I have to make any separate/extended permit for the same?

Thanks in advance
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Gaumukh-Tapovan permit

Dear himangshu

Although i am not an experienced trekker (i walk as a pilgrim as and when possible), i found this link which should give you the formal information you seek.

http://uttarkashi.nic.in/Dept/tourism/goumukh.PDF

Yes, you need an extended permit for any place beyond Gaumukh.
Do not try to get the permit after you reach Uttarkashi as the day's quota is likely to have been filled up by then.

It is possible to get the permits in advance by applying for it via post - i have done that last year. Then all you have to do is to collect it. Reach Uttarkashi before 1600 hrs so that you and they have atleast one hour to seacrh for your permit..their office closes at 1700 hrs. According to the number of persons you have with you and your individual needs, you can consider the number of porters you need. Personal details are not required...all you need to mention is the number and the rest can be done at Gaumukh itself, after you have done your hiring.

I found the entire personnel at the office of DFO, Uttarkashi to be extremely helpful and courteous: they do all they can to help us and more. The Sub-DFO is a avid trekker himself and can provide first-hand knowledge.

All the best,

Mia
#20 Sep 3rd, 2009, 19:03
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Thanks Mia for the information, specially regarding the permit!!

Now if anyone can provide me a convinient and detailed trek map of Gaumukh-Tapovan?
After reading the threads here at IM, I am thinking of hiring only porter for us but not guide. But not sure.. Any help in this?

My probable itenary:
22/09:Gangotri-Bhojbasha (overnight)
23/09: Bhojbasha- Gaumukh- Tapovan (overnight)
24/09: Stay at Tapovan
25/09 Tapovan-Bhojbasha (overnight)
26/09:Bhojbasha-Gangotri

Thanks in advance..
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Gaumukh-Tapovan

You are welcome, Himangshu.
Am just returning what i got from this site 3 years ago: info.

Reliable maps do not exist even for the lower mountain regions of Uttaranchal. Read the book: Sacred Waters by Stephen Alter to know more about maps of Uttaranchal..he was born and brought there, apart from writing the book. so far, i find the best maps to be available at uttaranchal.org.uk

Choose your guide/porter and stick to him. I found them to be completely reliable, without any issues. Or pair up with fellow travellers and stick with them. These journeys are also about activating and being aware of one's internal compass and relying less on external aids.

All the best.
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Guide/porters are the best companion for any trek, but if you need a good source of maps, use the US Army maps, they have contour maps having almost every details, distance, gradient, terrain details, snow line, vegetation lines etc, but you need to learn the contour maps reading techniques. for Uttaranchal part see the index nh-44-05(derhadun region), nh-44-06(nanda devi region), nh-44-09(haridwar region), nh-44-10(almora region).
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can be done but it is quite a walk
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hi supratim can u give me some advise about kedartal ? i'm planning to do this arnd july /aug 2012
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Me and my friends are going kedertal and jogin CI on late October-2012 . We are book everything even we advance the guide also.Our cost near about 12000/person including everything form haridwar to haridwar. I think less then that Kedertal and jogin CI not possible for 4 person group. If group size is big then it reduce the cost also.If any one interested to join us please contact.

Our Plan :
18/10/2012 Howrah : Upashana Express (Night Stay in Train)
19/10/2012 Reach Haridwar in evening and stay at hotel
20/10/2012 Early morning drive to Uttarkashi and stay overnight at Uttarkashi
21/10/2012 Drive to Gangotri and overnight stay at Gangotri
22/10/2012 Gangotri to Bhoj Kharak
23/10/2012 Bhoj Kharak to Kedartal
24/10/2012 Kedartal to Jogin CI and back to Kedertal overnight camp
25/10/2012 Kedartal to Bhoj Kharak
26/10/2012 Bhoj Kharak to Gangotri or Uttarkashi
27/10/2012 Gangotri or Uttarkashi to Haridwar : Catch Upashna Express

If any one interested to join with us please let me know.
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Dear Abhijit
I think attempting Jogin I from Kedartal is quite tough..you may be have one ABC before Wall or one summit camp above the wall . .just a suggestion...
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Originally Posted by Rakesh Jain View Post Dear Abhijit
I think attempting Jogin I from Kedartal is quite tough..you may be have one ABC before Wall or one summit camp above the wall . .just a suggestion...
Yes, I know . I have talk with our guide regarding the same.
It is tough but manageable and thanks for your information.
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Hi Folks,
Seeking some advice for Kedartal in wk4 of May. Here’s the planned itinerary:
day1- Delhi- ddun
day2- Ddun- Uttarkashi
day3- Uttarkashi- Gangotri
day4- Gangotri- Bhoj kharak
day5- Bhoj kharak- Kedartal
day6- Kedartal- Bhoj kharak
day7- Bhoj kharak- Gangotri
day 8- Gangotri- Ddun
day9-Ddun- Delhi
Ha anyone visited this beauty in May? If yes, just looking for a sense of what to expect:
May we spend a night at the lake? Worried about nausea and other AMS symptoms if spending long hours there. But really keen on this considering the views it has to offer. I’m sure the extra night spent in Uttarkashi will help with some acclimatisation, still worried though.
We have a first timer joining us for this as well with no trekking experience. Little worried about him, but the force and will is strong with us. The rest (2 of us) have alright High altitude trekking experience (Nandikund, Roopkund etc.)

Any permits required for this trek?
Lastly, curious about snow conditions this time of the year. Will not be carrying any crampons or gaiters. Or should i?
Thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by sinhank97 View Post Hi Folks,
Seeking some advice for Kedartal in wk4 of May. Hereís the planned itinerary:
day1- Delhi- ddun
day2- Ddun- Uttarkashi
day3- Uttarkashi- Gangotri
day4- Gangotri- Bhoj kharak
day5- Bhoj kharak- Kedartal
day6- Kedartal- Bhoj kharak
day7- Bhoj kharak- Gangotri
day 8- Gangotri- Ddun
day9-Ddun- Delhi
Ha anyone visited this beauty in May? If yes, just looking for a sense of what to expect:
May we spend a night at the lake? Worried about nausea and other AMS symptoms if spending long hours there. But really keen on this considering the views it has to offer. Iím sure the extra night spent in Uttarkashi will help with some acclimatisation, still worried though.
We have a first timer joining us for this as well with no trekking experience. Little worried about him, but the force and will is strong with us. The rest (2 of us) have alright High altitude trekking experience (Nandikund, Roopkund etc.)

Any permits required for this trek?
Lastly, curious about snow conditions this time of the year. Will not be carrying any crampons or gaiters. Or should i?
Thanks in advance.
You should plan at-least one spare day, and would recommend another day at the lake for nearby excursions. Sure you may stay near the lake.

BhojKharak to Kedartal seems doable by distance but is quite difficult for acclimatization (over a 1000m gain). Moreover, in May, when route has newly opened after winter, it's broken at places, and speed is lower than average. You may want to:
day x: Bhojkharak - Kedarkharak
x + 1: Kedarkharak - Kedartal - base-camp - Kedartal
x + 2: Kedartal - Bhojkharak

If you cannot increase days, better to not spend a night at the lake and be back to Kedarkharak on day x+1, and on x+2 you can reach Gangotri.

Night at Uttarakhasi adds almost nothing to your acclimatization. Would suggest reaching Gangotri on day-2 itself by leaving at 5 AM from Dehradun/ Rishikesh. OR if you want to explore more, stay at Harsil.

Permits are required. Can get them at Uttarkashi - where you'd be breaking journey for Gangotri (even if you reach Gangotri on day-2), or can also get it at Gangotri itself if day's quota is not yet over. I know that in peak season, day's quota gets over in advance, but I'm not sure what time of the year is "peak season". It is more about festivals than weather. Go through other threads, or someone may come and help. In any case, it won't take more than half an hour at Uttarkashi if you have all documents in place, and forest officers are in office. Consult your guide, and call Uttarkashi office, number would be easily available in other threads.

No need for gaiters or crampons. Gaiters may be good to have in-case of abnormal late heavy snowfall (quite low probability), but not necessary at all. Not really a first timers trek, but if he is in good shape, and rest of the group have ample experience, then I wouldn't worry a-lot.
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Thanks Blue Bharal.

I agree with you and shall add the extra day b/w Kedartal and Bhoj kharak. Priority is to spend a night at the lake without any hassle

Also will try and make it straight to Gangotri from Ddun by leaving early morning.

Regarding snow, I spoke to a contact in Uttarkashi. He said snow is not a problem this time, as theres been scarce snowfall this time around.

Theres still time to May, but will let you know how it goes.

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