gangotri, gaumukh, nandanban

sukanya · Jan 25th, 2006, 13:05

please help. I want to trek in those area during first week of October. Can anyone tell me the weather condition of those areas during that time of the year? My daughter will be with me. She is 10 yrs old. She had the experience of Sandakphu trekking and neora valley treking. But I'm not sure about the boulder zone on this trek route. Any information regarding will be helpful.

sukanya

jyotipg · Jan 25th, 2006, 13:31

yes, there is a good amount of boulder zone after gaumukh..

I had seen a foreigner who had come for mountaineering heading back to gangotri with help help of porters as he fractured his leg while negitiating ans slipping over one of thoese boulders..

I was lucky enough to getaway without any kind of injury after a slippage.

In 1st week of Oct, NandanVan can be ruled out.. I know a few guys who went till Tapovan in October after lots of difficulty.. be prepared for a lot of snow..

Go with ur own provisions and tents.. Dont expect babas to be there.. there may leave anytime in sept end or the 1st week of Oct depending on the snow conditions..

sukanya · Jan 25th, 2006, 13:48

thank u jyoti. Will June be a better timing? or will it rain?

somnath · Jan 25th, 2006, 13:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by sukanya

......My daughter will be with me. She is 10 yrs old. She had the experience of Sandakphu trekking and neora valley treking. .....Any information regarding will be helpful.
sukanya

Hi Sukanya,
Welcome to IndiaMike.
I cannot provide any info regarding this trail, just wanted to say Hello. Good luck to 10 yr old trekker.

jyotirmoy · Jan 25th, 2006, 14:09

In June rain can be expected and a bit of crowd too all over Uttaranchal.
September is by far the best time to do this. jyotipg is right about the boulders, be very carefull. If you are carrying a backpack make sure it is long & thin with heavy items towards the top, this will raise your centre of gravity & result in better balance. I have seen people straining their ankles very bad here.

dooms · Jan 25th, 2006, 14:53

Yeah mid september is the best time although it'll be very cold.

No babas at Nandanvan i guess. There are some at Tapovan. Take your own food and dont depend on Babas. I got THE worst food of my life there.

Nandanvan i think will be more difficult comapred to Tapovan as you have to cross more of the glacier terrain. I dont think it'll be a problem for kids in terms of strength. They generally have a high energy levels compared to adults. Just have to be disciplined and careful in the boulder area. Especially while descending

I think AvidTrekker has experience of taking kids on Treks here. Get his advice.

sukanya · Jan 25th, 2006, 15:17

Thank you to all of you. I'm new to this site. Don't know where & how to contact Avidtrekker.

Got really confused about the gaumukh trek timing. can't manage sept mid, bcoz of my daughter's school. only two vaccations i can avail, summer & puja. any other suggestions?

jyotirmoy · Jan 25th, 2006, 15:23

Have you considered Kumaon. Plenty of places to visit in October.

jyotipg · Jan 25th, 2006, 16:38

June is definitely a better time.. Snow would have been melted by then...
Rain start sometime at the end of June or early July.

Only problem is that you will find a lot of piligrimage crowd pouring in at Gangotri.. a lot of them even go till gaumukh..

Finding a proper accomodation on bhojwasa would be difficult. there is a GMVN bunglow.. and road side dhabas which provide acco.. One can even stay Lal Baba Ashram as Bhojwas..

The trick is to start early from Gangotri before the other piligrims reach there. This is help you get a decent acco at bhojwasa.. Follow the same rule for Tapovan also..

No Babas are there in NandanVan. So I assume that u r going with ur own tents and some food to use in Nandanvan.. For other places on the route, you dont need to carry any food.

dooms · Jan 25th, 2006, 16:45

You can consider Dzongri too. October is the best time for it. If you need a tougher one you can continue to GoechaLa from there.

Just wait, Avid might post soon.

sukanya · Jan 25th, 2006, 17:04

Hi Dooms, I'm just going thru some posts. Found Babuchand completed this trek in last october. found you too on the same route last october. as this year puja is by end september, I'm considering this route. could you share your experience.

Jyoti, as we don't like crowds, we are not sure about june trek to gaumukh. still could consider it if the sarroundings are as astonishing as sept-oct. suggest.

jyotirmoy · Jan 25th, 2006, 17:14

Whole of this part of Uttaranchal gets very crowded with pilgrims in June. The roads get clogged with vehicles, shortage of decent accomodation, unhyginic conditions along the road makes life miserable. I would take doom's suggestion.

somnath · Jan 25th, 2006, 17:28

But my personal experience suggests to avoid Dzongri / Goecha la with a 10 yr old kid. Babu and Avid can provide you first hand info, Sukanya. You can send a PM to them.

somnath · Jan 25th, 2006, 17:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by sukanya

I'm just going thru some posts. Found Babuchand completed this trek in last october.......

First time trekker and here is something regarding the preperation of that trip. It may help you.

dooms · Jan 25th, 2006, 22:44

Hi Sukanya,
OK my experience goes like this.

Tapovan is the only trek i have done in this area. And i am not a expert trekker like most guys here. Accordingly you can attach importance to my comments.

First week of october was fine last year. Generally its a strict no-no from second week-october for this area. Till about a week back before my trek the news was kind of bad from the area. One guy had even died a week back before i went. My guide there had kept some other trek as a back up plan.

Fortunately climate held up. Infact it was excellent. Babuchand too was there a few days later. But that doesnt mean its going to be the same this year too. Things can change pretty dramatically in mountain regions. Mid september to first few days of october should be OK. earlier the better.

Babuchand measured -10 C temperature when he went. So be prepared for extreme cold conditions. Good high altitute sleeping bags is must (something like Feather). During the day it can be quite hot (Apply lots of sunscreen lotion).

Go through the entire thread suggested by Somnath. Let us know if you have any more questions.

Jan 25th, 2006, 13:05	#1
sukanya Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: kolkata Posts: 14	gangotri, gaumukh, nandanban please help. I want to trek in those area during first week of October. Can anyone tell me the weather condition of those areas during that time of the year? My daughter will be with me. She is 10 yrs old. She had the experience of Sandakphu trekking and neora valley treking. But I'm not sure about the boulder zone on this trek route. Any information regarding will be helpful. sukanya

Jan 25th, 2006, 13:31	#2
jyotipg Lives virtually on IM Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 445	yes, there is a good amount of boulder zone after gaumukh.. I had seen a foreigner who had come for mountaineering heading back to gangotri with help help of porters as he fractured his leg while negitiating ans slipping over one of thoese boulders.. I was lucky enough to getaway without any kind of injury after a slippage. In 1st week of Oct, NandanVan can be ruled out.. I know a few guys who went till Tapovan in October after lots of difficulty.. be prepared for a lot of snow.. Go with ur own provisions and tents.. Dont expect babas to be there.. there may leave anytime in sept end or the 1st week of Oct depending on the snow conditions.. __________________ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/himalaya_trekkers/ Last edited by jyotipg : Jan 25th, 2006 at 16:39.

Jan 25th, 2006, 17:28	#13
somnath Maha Guru Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Calcutta Posts: 2,306	Hi, But my personal experience suggests to avoid Dzongri / Goecha la with a 10 yr old kid. Babu and Avid can provide you first hand info, Sukanya. You can send a PM to them.

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Jan 25th, 2006, 13:48	#3
sukanya Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: kolkata Posts: 14	thank u jyoti. Will June be a better timing? or will it rain?

Jan 25th, 2006, 14:09	#5
jyotirmoy Maha Guru Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 4,033	In June rain can be expected and a bit of crowd too all over Uttaranchal. September is by far the best time to do this. jyotipg is right about the boulders, be very carefull. If you are carrying a backpack make sure it is long & thin with heavy items towards the top, this will raise your centre of gravity & result in better balance. I have seen people straining their ankles very bad here.

Jan 25th, 2006, 14:53	#6
dooms Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 163	Yeah mid september is the best time although it'll be very cold. No babas at Nandanvan i guess. There are some at Tapovan. Take your own food and dont depend on Babas. I got THE worst food of my life there. Nandanvan i think will be more difficult comapred to Tapovan as you have to cross more of the glacier terrain. I dont think it'll be a problem for kids in terms of strength. They generally have a high energy levels compared to adults. Just have to be disciplined and careful in the boulder area. Especially while descending I think AvidTrekker has experience of taking kids on Treks here. Get his advice.

Jan 25th, 2006, 15:17	#7
sukanya Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: kolkata Posts: 14	Thank you to all of you. I'm new to this site. Don't know where & how to contact Avidtrekker. Got really confused about the gaumukh trek timing. can't manage sept mid, bcoz of my daughter's school. only two vaccations i can avail, summer & puja. any other suggestions?

Jan 25th, 2006, 15:23	#8
jyotirmoy Maha Guru Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 4,033	Have you considered Kumaon. Plenty of places to visit in October.

Jan 25th, 2006, 16:38	#9
jyotipg Lives virtually on IM Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 445	June is definitely a better time.. Snow would have been melted by then... Rain start sometime at the end of June or early July. Only problem is that you will find a lot of piligrimage crowd pouring in at Gangotri.. a lot of them even go till gaumukh.. Finding a proper accomodation on bhojwasa would be difficult. there is a GMVN bunglow.. and road side dhabas which provide acco.. One can even stay Lal Baba Ashram as Bhojwas.. The trick is to start early from Gangotri before the other piligrims reach there. This is help you get a decent acco at bhojwasa.. Follow the same rule for Tapovan also.. No Babas are there in NandanVan. So I assume that u r going with ur own tents and some food to use in Nandanvan.. For other places on the route, you dont need to carry any food.

Jan 25th, 2006, 16:45	#10
dooms Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 163	You can consider Dzongri too. October is the best time for it. If you need a tougher one you can continue to GoechaLa from there. Just wait, Avid might post soon.

Jan 25th, 2006, 17:04	#11
sukanya Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: kolkata Posts: 14	Hi Dooms, I'm just going thru some posts. Found Babuchand completed this trek in last october. found you too on the same route last october. as this year puja is by end september, I'm considering this route. could you share your experience. Jyoti, as we don't like crowds, we are not sure about june trek to gaumukh. still could consider it if the sarroundings are as astonishing as sept-oct. suggest.

Jan 25th, 2006, 17:14	#12
jyotirmoy Maha Guru Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 4,033	Whole of this part of Uttaranchal gets very crowded with pilgrims in June. The roads get clogged with vehicles, shortage of decent accomodation, unhyginic conditions along the road makes life miserable. I would take doom's suggestion.

Jan 25th, 2006, 22:44	#15
dooms Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 163	Hi Sukanya, OK my experience goes like this. Tapovan is the only trek i have done in this area. And i am not a expert trekker like most guys here. Accordingly you can attach importance to my comments. First week of october was fine last year. Generally its a strict no-no from second week-october for this area. Till about a week back before my trek the news was kind of bad from the area. One guy had even died a week back before i went. My guide there had kept some other trek as a back up plan. Fortunately climate held up. Infact it was excellent. Babuchand too was there a few days later. But that doesnt mean its going to be the same this year too. Things can change pretty dramatically in mountain regions. Mid september to first few days of october should be OK. earlier the better. Babuchand measured -10 C temperature when he went. So be prepared for extreme cold conditions. Good high altitute sleeping bags is must (something like Feather). During the day it can be quite hot (Apply lots of sunscreen lotion). Go through the entire thread suggested by Somnath. Let us know if you have any more questions.

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