From Malari to Milam

VSK Sharma

Hi,
This would help many planning to visit the area. Thanks

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gaurav_pande70

Disclaimer: The weather report uploaded has not been copy-pasted from any open source but was labour / effort of a professional meteorologist trained at Indian Institute of Tropical Meteorology, Pune.He has made this brief on my personal request

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ks_bluechip

Gaurav: Your friend has provided excellent info for Milam! Do you think he can answer my temperature question in another thread? (BTW: I had sent that query to IMD on their web-site but no response so far). Thanks in advace
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gaurav_pande70

the distance as the crow flies from milam village to malari as claculated on google earth is 64.4 KM. appended below is the JPEG image for those not using google earth else i have made a .KMZ placemark file with route map in google 3D also.

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gaurav_pande70

Please can any veteran give first person input /info on Untadhura-topidunga-khingri Bhingri-Kingri La pass circuit required urgently...

A trans himalayan trek which is talked about a lot on the net especially on Indiamike site. but very few first person account exist on the web other than for Ms Vineeta Muni all women expedition

Our trek has been inspired by reading the books on ancient trade route to tibet from india written in late 1800.

The most detailed reading available on these above 17000 feet pass of Untadhura toTopidunga and Khingri Bhingri La pass into tibet is in the books by Harish Kapadia and the other one by Harish Kholi. A good aerial view recce was done by us using the net version of 35 Km height maps of north tibet

So posted in hyper link below is the iternary of our trek made by the team based on weather input for the milam area in Sept from a metro logical expert detailed day planning was done using google earth 3D tools.

http://shipbuildingtosurfin.blogspot...an-sea-to.html

ashutosh69

here is probably a closer view (all thanks to Google Earth)

http://picasaweb.google.com/ashutosh...95998071821490
Please do use the "Zoom" feature available on the page

http://picasaweb.google.com/ashutosh...50153657745378
Please do use the "Zoom" feature available on the page


By all accounts there are two bottlenecks to handle for an average trekker

1. Permission and contact in ITBP to make life smooth and camerafriendly
2. The track from Lapthal to Sumna ....narrow track cut into rocks overlooking a deep Gorge

The Harish Kapadia account does not describe the Khingar La - Lapthal trail. It however covers the alternate route short cutting Lapthal along the Girthi Ganga (from Girthi Dobata to Topidunga).

Harish Kohli's descrpition is more on the Girthi Dobata- Sumna Lapthal- Chyadmu- Khingar Pass- Topidungs...but the entire setting is in December

In any case the pics in Google Earth are now pretty High res. You can see clarity even from 19000 ft /20000 Ft eye altitude.

Man made tracks are visible in Dung Area, Leading down from Untadhura Pass, in the Gangpani- Topidunga stretch, Leading up to Khingar Pass, Leading down from Khingar Pass till Chyadmu

Zero in on the area and be at about 20000 ft eye altitude and one can clearly see the track

gaurav_pande70

ashu,
thanxs for the input about google, rather ur entry on ganaga pani was the start of my reserch on this area. but what i am looking for is detaisl regarding water point, creavase ridden area and requiremnt to do any kind of technical climbing with our own load since we are not using porters.

Dr.Barai

recently visited malari. the road now extends upto niti vilage and is motorable.

Dilliwala

Hey Barai, did you drive upto Niti? Man, I'm envious!!
But you wud have had to get an ILP first, right?

Dr.Barai

Yes u need a IPL Which is obtainable from Joshimath. However only the SDM issues it and in his absence others promptly refuses to issue one. The road was reasonably good shape. I could not reach
Niti proper as the road got blocked due to fresh snowfall on 20.11.08 and was not bikeable.
Moreover people from Niti and malari migrate to lower altitude at the onset of winter and tourist at multiple check posts have to satisfy the local police about their motive of visiting a village when there is nobody around.

Dilliwala

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....and tourist at multiple check posts have to satisfy the local police about their motive of visiting a village when there is nobody around.

That's true. Altho I didn't have any problems on 2nd Nov last year getting from Malari to Gamshali, where of course I had to turn back becos of lack of ILP (didn't even know about it, or that indded the road extended past Malari). The ITBP guys at Gamshali were nice though.