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Old May 19th, 2007, 13:02   #1
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Exclamation Everest Summit Become Easy or Human Getting More Determination

a 19 year old USA girl has mate the Everest Summit yesterday!! can u believe this!! There is a TV show called "Everest Beyond the Limits" shown on Discovery channel. The show is a live coverage of an expedition team's activity during their path. There was a 39 year old guy who had donated his two legs to Everest on his two trial for Everest summit. Now third time he is trying to mate the Summit using two artificial limbs. I was thinking is Everest Summit became easy by using the latest equipments or the mountaineers are becoming more determined.
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Add another vital thing to this: The rate of number of attempts have increased over the years, so naturally, the success rate has also increased.
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Old May 19th, 2007, 15:01   #4
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Add another vital thing to this: The rate of number of attempts have increased over the years, so naturally, the success rate has also increased.
thats Pure Logic Sir..I accept it..
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Not as offtopic as you might think:

With all this global warming and glaciers melting, has anybody checked Everests height recently?
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Not as offtopic as you might think:

With all this global warming and glaciers melting, has anybody checked Everests height recently?
well not sure about that..

anyhow its supposed to increasing at around half an inch a year..

due to movement of plates below the surface..
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that's quite an achievement by a young girl and will be even more if the guy with no legs makes it!

But, despite this, and claims of people paying to be 'taken' up everest, it is a long long way from easy! It is in incredible test of endurance however you do it and not something i would be in a hurry to attempt myself.

That said, it is not supposed to be the hardest of the 8000m peaks,Kanchenjunga appears to be much harder and more dangerous.
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The main thing that I don't support is the use of extremely new and high technical gadgets and equipments which making trekkers and mountaineers somehow luxurious. One of the very bad example is that in May 2006 a French expedition group reached the main base camp by helicopter. This is really not feasible.
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One of the very bad example is that in May 2006 a French expedition group reached the main base camp by helicopter. This is really not feasible.
I agree with you, sense of achievement is lost, this way.

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The main thing that I don't support is the use of extremely new and high technical gadgets and equipments which making trekkers and mountaineers somehow luxurious.
Even with gadgets and equipments its a lethal climb. One need to be either a Sherpa or some really hard soul to get on top without gadgets/equipments.

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although i agree with the basic principle here, where do you draw the line? For some, even the use of oxygen is 'unpure' and thus the 1st real ascent of everest was not by hilary/tenzing, but by messner in 1980 who managed it solo without oxygen, a feat that even managed to astonish the sherpas!

There was even talk recently of putting metal 'stairs' on the infamous hilary step to help stop the congestion there!

Well, whatever happens, there will always be controversy and disagreement surrounding the world's highest mountain (well, highest above sealevel anyway )
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Take away the oxygen tanks. Crowding and overuse would end quickly.

Aside from the helicopter shenanigans mentioned there are no miracle 'gadgets' for high altitude climbing.
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Old May 19th, 2007, 23:22   #12
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And what about Sherpa Apa, who climbed Everest for the 17th time:
"Apa was leading a team calling themselves the "Super Sherpas Expedition" on a charity climb to raise education funds for children of the Nepalese mountain guides.


He and his teammates had set out to make a documentary about the climb and all money raised will go toward providing better education and health care for children in their community at the foothills of the mountain"

Full article at: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...n=00 3&sc=847
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Everest has become easier since Hilary and Tenzing's era. Partly because of better equipment, but also because the main route up the South Col has become something of an extreme hiking route. Everest isn't the most technical of the high Himalayan peaks, and there are permanent ladders over the tricky bits. K2 is meant to be one of the hardest climbs - fancy a stroll up this?

Still, anyone who makes the summit has undertaken quite a feat of endurance; oxygen and ladders notwithstanding. It's certainly more impressive then any hills I've walked up! Messner has already been mentioned, and quite deservedly so. If you think Messner is hardcore, then read up on Göran_Kropp. That's hardcore.
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JamesW, thanks for making me think, if only for a moment, that even I could go up Everest next weekend

ps: awesome photograph of k2, btw.
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Capt: I did hope that I had stressed that it is still quite a feat to summit. However, if you are fit, and prepared to put in the training, then there are companies who will take your $$$/£££/RupeeRupeeRupee and guide you to the summit. The downside is that there is still a fair risk of death. Too much of a risk for me to consider doing it, that's for sure!
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