Dodra Kwar and Taluka-Rupin Pass

VAIBHAV KAUL

1. What sort of a place is Dodra Kamar? Could anyone tell me its altitude and its distance from Chirgaon/Taluka?
I saw it on a map on the trekking route from Chirgaon (near Rohru, HP) to Taluka (Harkidoon Base).

2. Is there a direct route from Taluka to Rupin Pass?

AvidTrekker

Here is the route (from Deepak Sanan's Book)

For Taluka to Rupin Pass....

You dont need to go upto Taluka. Halt at Naitwar, some 24 km before Taluka. Continue by private jeep on the kachchaa road upto Dhaula (or walk the distance in 5 hours)

Dhaula to Sewa
Sewa to Dodra Kwar
Dodra Kwar to Meadow ahead of Jakha
Meadow to Saribasa

From Saribasa across Rupin Ghati 4750m to Sangla Kanda
Sangla Kanda to Sangla

Further details can be read from the book itself. You can buy it for 400 rupees (may be 450 now) from Indus books

See the link of Indus Intl...

All the best and

HAPPY TREKKING !!!

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ashutosh69

Here is the plan I had made earlier this year based on the itinerary provided by a trekking agency in Uttarkashi

Sangla- Rupin Pass (4850M)

Day 1- Chitkul – Sangala (H.2850m, 65 km drive)
After break fast Short drive for Sangala via saran, visit Bhima kali temple, half days rest before start 02 Rupin pass trek,
Dinner & over night at Guest house/ hotel.

Day 2 - Sangala – Nuru (H3600m 12 km by trek)
Morning after breakfast at camp cross a wooden bridge over the Baspa and follow s trail SW up the right of the Rukti Gad to Sangla Kanda (Kanda Digri) in 7kms. Working along the valley slopes, pass through the hamlets of Palwachang and Kangalti to arrive at Nuru camp ground at the confluence of Rukti Gad coming from the left and Daundaro Garang which rises from the slopes of Rupin Ghati (pass) and flows down on your right.

Day 3- Nuru –Rupin pass 4625 M. – Saruwas thach (H.3450 m.14 km by trek) morning breakfast at the camp then Ascending W towards the pass the valley narrows. The path runs close to the sandy bank of the Daundaro stream and hugging the stream reaches a point at came 4000mt about 5km from Nuru. where it divides. To the right lies Guans Ghati (4795m), and straight ahead (WSW)Rupin Ghati a steep climb of 2.5km leads to the top and a panoramic view of several kinnor peaks. On the other side go down a small glacier steeply into the Rupin valley, passing a fine 75m high waterfall. The path blow crosses the torrent and follows the left bank to re cross it after 03km. to reach Saruwas, on arrival check in camp Dinner& over night at camp

Day 4- Saruwas thach – Jiskon village (H. 2950 M, 12 km. trek)
Morning breakfast at the camp then proceed the Rupin Gad path leads through several meadow , crosses and recrosses the stream several time and arrives at Hooligan in 08 km ,another 04 km enter Jiskon village on arrival check camp Dinner7 over night at camp.

Day 5- Jiskon - Sewa Dogri (H. 2000m, 12 km trek)
Morning breakfast at the camp, then follow down trek via sari Dogri to reach sewa Dogri, Dinner& over night at camp.

Day 6- SewDogri - Netwar (H1380 M. 17km by trek.)
Morning breakfast at the camp then Greadualy down trek along passing through forest , village (with picnic lunch) to reach netwar Dinner& over night at camp.

Day 7- Netwar - Sankri – Uttarkashi /Mussoorie
Morning after breakfast, drive for uttarkashi/ Mussoorie Lunch enroute while driving , on arrival check Hotel overnight at hotel .

Dilliwala

Whoa! Run that by me again?
I'm not clear on why someone wud drive the 23 km from Chhitkul to Sangla via Sarahan, but each to their own. Even so, just the one way is 116 km, the return 93 km, and this agency says the whole circuit is 65 only??!!
One advice - change the agency, and fast!
Ok, I know you weren't going to use them anyway, but if they're that wildly off for the road, wonder how accurate all the other info is.
Sitting far away in Uttarkashi, they've probably never ventured the other side of the ridge anyway, I'll bet they got all their Kinnaur info over the fone. Even a rudimentary reading of a map like N&W wud have given them better info.

ashutosh69

boss.. my mistake that i copy pasted the last half of a harsil-lamkhaga pass- chitkul- sangla-rupin- netwar itinerary. i am sure the village in question is similar sounding as Sarhaan. usually they are not that off the mark. i have trekked extensively with them over a decade in uttarakhand.
in any case now that u have mentioned this i shall get back morrow with my own research.

ashutosh69

haha
boss dilliwala.. that was a little harsh on the guy
just checked the US Army map- closest translation of survey of india detailed map available on net.
the route from chitkul(last major roadhead in baspa valley) to sangla(penultimate major roadhead in baspa valley) follows straight along the baspa gad. A.t Sangla ..rukti gad meets the baspa gad from the true left. The trek follows the Rukti Gad and then the Sangla Gad to Rupin Pass. the itinerary correctly mentions this. Also the next camp is mentioned as Saruwas Thatch which in the Survey of India map mentions as Suriwan. Next camp Jiskon is also mentioned correctly. This onwards the route is along the Rupin Gad to Sewa Dogri which is correctly memtioned in the itinerary. i shall post the cut map tomorrow and follow that up with a Google earth reccee once i get a faster net connection.
I think the confusion u had was about Sarhaan... could be a small village called Saran where there is this famous local temple.

Dilliwala

Ashu, I figured that you had probably c/p'ed part of an itinerary, and that they mentioned Saran (sic) as part of a sightseeing trip. What caught my attention is they clearly mentioned the Bhimakali temple, and then the distances are well off. I'll hazard there's only one Bhimakali in HP and India, but even if not, in that part of the world it wud have to be the one at Sarahan (Bushahr), tehsil Rampur. Too many coincidences otherwise. But just cross-check with them anyway.

The rest of the trek route I have no idea about anyway , was basically trying to highlight that the road distance Chhitkul-Sarahan-Sangla is more than 3 times that shown - makes a difference for scheduling.

VAIBHAV KAUL

I thank Avidtekker , Dilliwala and Ashutosh69.

VAIBHAV KAUL

1. Does anyone know anything about Dodra Kamar (Kawar)?
2. Is Chirgaon the last point on the motorable road beyond Rohru?

Dilliwala

All read on IM:

Some bikers have been up past Larot.
Buses go upto Larot. Avid has suggested somewhere that Chirgaon-Larot may need 4wd though.
The road to Dodra-Kwar is "in progress".

Here's a few threads that shud help you, including Avid's report of the region:
http://www.indiamike.com/india/himac...l-help-t11728/
delhi-shimla-rohru-almost chansal pass
Need Some (Himachal) Advice....
Pabbar valley to Sangla

AvidTrekker

There is a road Chirgaon to Gumma out of which the last three km are unmetalled. If you go straight from Gumma along the same bank (true right bank) you reach Dhamwari and the start of your trek to Rupin Ghati.

4WD NOT REQD upto Dhamwari..

Gumma to Larot is across the bridge at Gumma on the true left bank. The 4WD portion is beyond Larot, some three km upwards towards Chansil ghati, where some IMers have gone on bikes (dirt bikes.. ?? don't know)

It is black-topped-asphalted upto Naitwar and only "unmetalled" upto Dhaula. Someone said the unmetalled portion has almost reached Sewa now.

Please go there and update us all here

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Dilliwala

Oh, it's from THAT side? I understood from one of those threads it was being made from Pabar side?

You know, you're a sadist. You said this deliberately, knowing it will cause me NO end of heartburn from now until I do manage to go there!!
Well, as I threatened previously, I might just join you upto Dhaula if your trip materialises. Then you stay at Sewa, while I take the high road, but I'll be in Dodra before ye!

arjunm

No worries here. As you know we are doing the Rupin Pass trek this June. So will have the complete info for you when we get back.

Arjun

ashutosh69

just traced out the route as mentioned in my earlier post

Here is the complete route mapped out from Harsil-Lamkhaga-Chitkul-Sangla-Rupin Pass- Netwar
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?t=h&h...de6a690cf&z=10

ashutosh69

Have verified this against the contour map availabele with US Army-1956 and Google Earth
The place markers may be off ..maximum by 100 mtrs

Will correct that morrow if possible after checking with Google Map contours which are more faithful than any