Can we carry multi-fuel stove in flights?

#1 Oct 7th, 2017, 20:57
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Hi everyone,

I am planning to buy a multi-fuel stove in coming months(MSR DragonFly). Before investing a fortune in procuring it, i was wondering if we can carry the stove(without fuel, obviously) to flights to Leh without any problems?
#2 Oct 8th, 2017, 00:51
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Howdy highSparrow,

Your airlines list of prohibited items would be the definitive answer, unless someone shows up that's done it.

But I'd like to mention, for your MSR you'll have a much better experience if you filter the fuel before trying to use it. The ration shop kerosene I was using always kept clogging mine up after 15 to 20 minutes of use and I got really good at tearing it down, cleaning and reassembling during meal preparation. Until I figured out the fuel was the issue.
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#3 Oct 8th, 2017, 13:06
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They probably allow guns and knives as well..
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Hi skids,

You are right, i will definitely check with the airline.
By reading your post, I feel i need to go back to the gas stoves. In many threads, I have read that the gas canisters are available in Leh. Now, this brings me conveniently to a related query, do you (or any other esteemed member) have experience in burning gas stoves at high altitudes (with low temperatures)?
The trek that i have in mind is Alchi circuit(mentioned in Cicerone- Trekking in Ladakh). The highest campsite would be around 4300 mts.
#5 Oct 9th, 2017, 00:43
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Dont get me started..... If its in checked baggage you will have no problem, if in hand baggage you will run into security checks that will probably result in a 'no'
Its a long time since I used an MSR but we used both a wisperlight and the pre dragonfly model successfully with the caveat that petrol/kerosene stoves dont work too well at all high up.....The newer model is unlikely to be different.
I think the problem is the lower pressure, for example a turbo windproof gas lighter that will blowtorch anything at sea level simply wont light at all in Leh. Lighting any stove is a problem outside of a tent because of the breeze. Off topic, lighting toilet paper post use has the same difficulty........
Kerosene is a low heat dirty fuel, pleanty of cleaning needed. Its fine in a big India cast iron stove but that is impossible to backpack, the one time we used both, the Indian one beat MSR handsdown.
Sourcing quality liquid fuel will be impossible in Leh
Gas would be better. cant take it on the plane but there are stores that have it in Leh - check this forum for a thread on it. The shop on the corner of the washing stream on Fort Road will definitely have name branded stuff.
Havent used gas extensively but last year in Chukung in Nepal at 4700 we used a jetboil upmarket model and it got the litre cup to the boil in under 4 mins.
iwould use that if backpacking or if using horses just get the horseman to bring his stove
#6 Oct 13th, 2017, 16:21
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I use gas these days because you can get it in Delhi. I used to take the MSR International in the 90's and ended up preferring petrol over kero. At those altitudes all the fuels benefit from 5 minutes up your jumper!
#7 Oct 13th, 2017, 18:39
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I swear by my MSR Dragonfly.

Been using it for around 7 years.

I use petrol rather than kerosene.

I haven't used it at Leh altitude, but would think it should work.

I am a motorcyclist so have easy access to petrol!

Can only remember having to clean it out once or twice in all that time.
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Carrying the stove in luggage should not be a problem, procuring fuel in Leh should not be a problem. Have seen a fair few shops that rent/sell fuel canisters. Otherwise you can use petrol/diesel/kerosene depending on your choice,if I remember the Dragonfly's specs correctly I think it can work with either of the three.
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thanks everyone for the replies, I have decided that I will go ahead with the gas canisters.
#10 Oct 16th, 2017, 00:29
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I recently used gaz canister at height of 5200, 5600 mtrs and there was no problem. ( Used standard propane, butane mix ).
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Hi,

I have been carrying Multi-fuel stoves (sans the fuel) in airlines across india without any problems. I have used Primus Omnilite/ MSR Whisperlite/ MSR Dragonfly/ BRS8 Booster (Chinese make) at high altitudes (read 5000M+ passes) with no major problems. If used carefully (i.e with regular cleaning and maintenance) all of these will work in the himalayas. I would recommend Primus (if cost is not an issue) and BRS8 booster (if you would like something cheaper). MSR's are good but cleaning the fuel lines of MSRs is a bit tougher.

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#12 Oct 23rd, 2017, 01:35
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Interesting, I met a climber with the same opinion many years back but the Hindu Ambassador model of stove used by the horseman got stuff boiling a lot quicker.................

highsparrow,

the jetboil or similar is excellent, albeit it is 'boil and serve' - no simmer control
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Originally Posted by SathyaV View Post Hi,

I have been carrying Multi-fuel stoves (sans the fuel) in airlines across india without any problems. I have used Primus Omnilite/ MSR Whisperlite/ MSR Dragonfly/ BRS8 Booster (Chinese make) at high altitudes (read 5000M+ passes) with no major problems. If used carefully (i.e with regular cleaning and maintenance) all of these will work in the himalayas. I would recommend Primus (if cost is not an issue) and BRS8 booster (if you would like something cheaper). MSR's are good but cleaning the fuel lines of MSRs is a bit tougher.

cheers
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A bit off topic, but I was looking to purchase the BRS8 Booster, how was your experience with with, is it reliable?
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Yes BRS8 Booster is reliable provided you know how to repair it. The 3 main problems you will get with it are :-

1) Leaks : At places where the fuel line joins the stove or fuel bottle or leaks in the plastic screw tightening knob in the fuel pump. All of these can be easily fixed with a teflon tape (the ones plumbers use)
2) Dust dirt in stove's nozzle : Frequent cleaning of the nozzle with an external stove pin. This problem is not unique to BRS8 booster. However, unlike the MSR's this does not have a shakerjet needle. The 1 stove pin provided as part of the maintenance kit will break so remember to buy some extra stove pins and carry them with you for the trip. The stove pins are the ones you use for the small indian stove (the stove pins of larger indian stoves wont work)
3) On extensive usage and frequent twisting and storing the fuel line may develop leaks. This is not a frequent occurence. However, the fuel lines of BRS8 can be purchased separately online and does not cost a bomb (unlike the MSR counterparts).

cheers
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Thanks for the detailed information, ideally I would loved to get the MSR Dragonfly but need to get it sent from the US whereas the BRS8 would get shipped to me with 50 USD. As I have no experience of using a stove so I think its a good option for the time being.

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