Camping gas in Uttarkashi?

#31 Sep 15th, 2012, 20:22
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Hi, sorry to hear that you missed the Shatabdi though 7 hours on the train doesnt sound too bad. Have you worked out the arrival time in haridwar?I would try to push on to Rishikesh if i was you. Having travelled on every form of transport i find the bus is as about as quick as anything and the cheapest by miles .It is about 23 rupes to Rishi and the bus station is 2 minutes from the train station. I never lock my rucksack but i dont let it out of my sight except to leave it in an hotel. Of course i carry my passport and money at all times, except for a 50 pound note i leave under a carpet (if there is one) for emergencies in the hotel room. At least i know that i can get to the nearest embassy if big problems arise.I do that not just in India but everywher i travel, even in London. As i always have porters my gear is safe whether i am there or not as i have known them many years.Also my porter is a very rich guy (compared to me)and owns a lot of land and several businessis so i dont have any concerns in that department. Campsite is not a formal term like in europe with facilities as such as long as you are near water and its fairly flat thats the main criteria.
I have been to Kedarnath twice but not the surrounds,you would definately need a guide if you were to do more than a day walk. The only way is up and as you are already way over 3,000 mtrs the prospect of snow and high winds is quite possible espeically going into October and later.
Meths works fine in my alcohol stove, so persevere! They are great fun and nothing can break or go wrong once you get the hang of it.Whether you want to take a chance and put a taped up bottle in your rucksack for the flight is up to you. I know where to get it in Uttarkashi and you could source something like it for sure inDelhi, if you have the time. Captain Kit.
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Hiya
More bad news from Uttarakand:
http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-F...e1-930881.aspx
So sad...and difficult to understand...when i answer people when they ask me why im so interested in India and Hínduism, i explain that i very much recognise the cyclic nature of life, the inseperability of creation and destruction which Shiva embodies...yet these words seem very hollow when nature does manifest its destructive side...
Would it be hard to find this place where you get the methylated spirits? Im finally getting good results with something that is 94% Ethyl-alcohol (Ethanol?) ... and if you like this coke can stove business you gotta see what this guy is doing, absolutely amazing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWaZ9...6&feature=plcp
Thats what i did last time, went straight from Haridwar to Rishikesh which i kinda regretted cos Haridwar looks like a pretty interesting town, or not? The evening Ganga Aarti looks like its well worth seeing? Perhaps that doesnt appeal to you, i just kinda assumed it would, but i could be wrong i suppose...!
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The ganga arti is definately worth seeing though i prefer the arti at ram jhula in Rishikesh. There is a beautiful statue of shiva ji rising out of the Ganga and all the child monks as well as the grown ups perform the arti, for me it is very moving.
Vis a vis the pop can stove i just had a thought that surely one could purchase ethanol from a chemist? I know i bought some thing from a chemist in Ghuttu that worked fine,i think it was rubbing alcohol.
It surely is a terrible situation with the loss of life due to monsoon, i just hope that the government offer solid help, espeically once the t.v. crews and reporters have moved on. I just saw here on i.m that the Gangotri road is out due to landslides,have you got a plan b or even c waiting in the wings? All the best, Captain Kit.
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Hiya CKC
Yes the Gangotri road seems like its in a pretty bad way...but im hoping that rather than the bus, a shared jeep from UK to Gangotri might be possible which might be able to get over any damaged sections, any idea how much that would cost approximately? also what is the going rate for the shared jeep from Rishikesh to Uttarkashi?
Hopefully i can get some fuel for the stove; its turning into a bit of a saga, this can stove business!! Im trying to build a pot stand/windshield combi thing at the moment, its nice relief from the other stuff i have to organise...hopefully get my insurance sorted out today. Which company do you use?
Yeah i have a plan B: Nepal!! Or head to Josimath which seems to have avoided these dreadful monsoon rains, i havent heard it mentioned in any news reports at least....from there i could to the Kauri Pass (tho that has permit hassles), Milam Glacier or Nanda Devi outer sanctuary, tho i havent really looked into that one. WHat looks really interesting is the Dhauli Ganga valley which runs north from near Josimath, tho again i guess its in a restricted area...
Im re-reading the Boardman Tasker omnibus, wonderful tales from their climbs in the Gahrwal, highly recommended if youre not familiar with them
Cheers mate, take care
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Hi,m Neilus, the fare to uk from Rishikesh was 220 rupees last year.I cant remember how much to Gangotri from Uk probably about the same. The system is a jeep will take you as far as it can, then you walk over the landslide where hopefully there is a jeep to take you on to the next blockage, etc,etc. Why not do the routes i suggested, the ones you just mentioned would definately require guides and permits and possibley the authorities might not let you go on some of them alone anyway,as they get fed up searching for missing trekkers in out of the way places. Though i think you would be o.k for the Milam glacier trek.
The last couple of times i have gone with the free travel insurance that my wife gets through her bank account. Other times i have just gone for the cheapest, they will all try and weasel there way out of a claim however much you pay. Send us an email once you are there , i will just have to enjoy the Garwhal second hand this year!! All the best Chris.
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Hiya Captain...
Thanks for the jeep info, and yeah youre right ... i think perhaps im being a over ambitious with some of my plans, the Ghuttu-Kauri Pass-Kedarnath for example, and i know that the mountains rarely punish foolishness lightly...:/ The Dodital-Agoda-Dayara Bugyal trek kinda fell off the agenda, cos it seemed that the path to Dodital was damaged so badly but i should do a bit of research here and find out whats going on there, and theres always D. Bugyal from the Gangotri Highway side which i think should be doable, ill re-read your posts about that one
You say you normally have guides, what about cooks? Basically, how/what do you eat when your on the trail? Im guessing a "guide" would be pretty hacked of if you expected him to cook for you too!!
Cheers mate, cant tell you how much help youve been and youll deffo get some emails!!
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I take some of my own food ,porridge and packet soups, also the porters or guide will cook for themselves so as you will be paying for their food they will of course cook for you at the same time. You will be able to find out if the bridges are down on the Dodital route when you get to Uttarkashi. there are two coming down from Dayara maybe one survived, i dont know if the bridge at Sangam chatti is functional yet. You could also do the trek from Ghuttu via Panwali to Kedarnath. Lovely views so i have heard. Happy treking!
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thanks ckc!
i plan to get to uttarkashi and see what my options are...but more than anything i want to get to gaumuhk-tapovan...im a bit of a born again hindu ex-catholic failed buddhist...
i just want to experience the majesty, culture and life of the gahrwal and i think i will be rewarded, like you seem to be!
just spoke to my mum...cuppasoups ordered! with bits of pasta,for extra calories!
shame you cant be there this year, may i ask why? you must know all those peaks, valleys, gulleys very well...
what do you normally do about mobile phone connection? buy a sim card i guess, can you recommend one?
many thanks ckc...youre a star!
neilus
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On the food front some of the super markets here do some really nice past a sauces in sachets that you just add whatevwer type of pasta you are into. Some of the soups with a lot in them bulk wise are also really tasty. ialways take some dried milk powder to put in my porridge goes down a treat and sets me up with some slow release carbs which is what to aim for when doing any strenuous walking.Dont forget that most villages or even hamlets can normally provide fresh eggs for a few rupees or will make you an omelette on the spot for a few rupees more.I often buy some ,hard boil them to eat on the trail the next day. Dried potato flakes just need hot water to make a really tasty basis for a meal. I also try and keep a couple of meals available that i know wont upset my stomach,if i am feeling a bit dodgy inside wise!Dried fruit and nuts are also good,half way down the main street of the market in Uttarkashi is a stall that sells grea t nuts by weight.About thirty metresfurther on the right is a general store ,the guy there speaks excellent english and has most of the above mentioned foods and sometimes genuine Digestive biscuits! Result!!.
First right after that in about 50 metres on your right is a restaurant called Shangri la. Sells lots of european food, pancakes etc, very good. P.m me when youget up that way, i have some other tip that might be useful. All the best, C. K.
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good morning!
well, that makes me feel better, my camping menu is very similar! powdered milk is easy to get there? what about tinned fish (tuna, mackerel)? my normal camping meal is a pack of pasta and sauce with a tin of mackerel, fairly nutritious and really tasty! chapattis cant be too difficult to make either...
well today should see my insurance and visa sorted out then off for a hike in the local hills...ive been taking my rucksack stuffed with filled 2l bottles of water, im up to 16kg at the moment! obviously it wont simulate himalayan conditions but better than nothing and certainly leaves me pretty wrecked after 25km
so any info about the sim card/mobile thing? im thinking there should be a place to register and serve as a contact should you run into any problems...the dfo people in uttarkashi maybe? i guess going with a guide you dont bother wih this?
cheers buddy
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AS one of the main joys of the Himalayas for me is getting away from so called civilizeation i dont carry a phone etc.Though i guess you could arrange with someone to call them if needed,. that is if you could get a signal.
I think you could maybe get tinned fish i dont really know as i am a vegetarian.
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good for you being a vegetarian...made me think that it might not be cool to eat fish at least near the holy places such as gaumuhk...dont wanna upset the gods, they seem quite grumpy this year...
still need to find out about the dodital path, but i do hope its open...it sounds like a perfect trek to find my legs before heading on to gaumuhk and a hike up to darwa (have seen darba too; surely the same place?) should give me my first view of the himalaya
many thanks captain, have a good weekend!!
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