Gold Medal for India

brishti

i give up.




[ back to neverending whatever - ]
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karuna

It probably would not even occur to a British father to boast in such a way. Take a look at the parents of a Welsh Olympic gold medal winner: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7552740.stm

So bumbling and British! Making up stories wouldn't be a part of it, and if it were, they wouldn't be stories that would include mortal danger to third parties.

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shashank.aggarwal

All the points taken, this is where I wanted this to come. No keeping in mind the discussion we have had, please answer the following :

1. Does it take away any credit from the medal winner ?

2. Is it justified to compare the medal winner with the BMW murderer ?

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karuna

I think TFOTH has made it quite clear that it does not take any credit from the medal winner. Several times.

I don't know about the BMW thing, can't comment.

Prashant.M

I think you guys are over reacting. Young Abhinav had fired before anybody had even noticed. He definitely would have been stopped otherwise.

Excerpt from TOI, Bangalore (epaper):
" New Delhi: It’s a modern, slightly altered version of the Swiss folktale where William Tell, a 14th century rebel, shot an apple off his son’s head with an arrow. When just seven years old, Abhinav Bindra placed an empty bottle on the head of one of his domestic maids, took aim and before anybody could notice fired the airgun."

Link:
http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Defau...Mode=HTML&GZ=T

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shashank.aggarwal

When someone says that he/she is trying to show the other side of the coin, I generally perceive that the person is producing something to counter that is currently agreed. And what was agreed was that Bindra's achievement was extraordinary.

Ultimately, TFOTH ended up comparing Bindra to Nanda, who romped down several people in drunken state.

PS : Just to let you know how horrible the comparison is, Nanda was of 20 plus age, when in state of drunkenness he romped down 6 people with his car. And over here were comparing that with 'alleged' act of a 5-7 year old kid.

Aishah

It seems to me that newspaper reporting can be varied - one time it is a filled water balloon, another time a bottle. It may have been a childish prank and not intentionally cruel, it may be a terrible situation. I don't like the sound of it at all, but do we know the true facts?
Let's not spend too much time bickering one way or another - all posts are valid to date, and some areas we need to agree to disagree.

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brishti

yea sure - i will answer you -
and i care didleysquat which region and what mentality or temperament fathers of ANY region have...

1. NO - none of the posts are taking away any credibility / honour / accomplishment of the feat.

2. YES - BMW case is a case in point of insensitivity towards life that did not matter [ how big bucks get you out of anything ]
YES - Bindra Sr's statement reverberates the same mentality... [ insensitivity towards life + i got the money honey - anything goes ]
you have the NERVE to say - heck it was just an air gun... it was a father boasting [!!!]
after such a statement - cirkey... i dont know where to begin, end or continue this ludicrous discussion.


the fact that it requires so much clarification - that in itself is absurd...
this IS NOT about the newspaper article anymore -
this is about shashank's take on the incident... whether or not it took place - is really redundant for me at this point.



:brishti

and stop quoting TFOTH... use my quotes for a change shashank

karuna

Brishti I agree with you, but I think Aishah's right. I'm going to take up your suggestion, clear off and talk nonsense elsewhere. I was very pleased to hear about India's gold and would like to keep my pleasure unsullied!

shashank.aggarwal

Please read post number 51..

Aishah

Folks, I think enough has been said about the matter and all points of view put. It seems to me this thread could well be closed, but something I would be reluctant to do. A gold medal for India is great news, no matter how, who, or what and hopefully it will give a boost to future development in sports training areas etc.

brishti

we are talking about you justifying what the father said.
let me repeat - i do not care about the newspaper reports... this is about YOUR reaction.

as for your post 51 - you really have not understood ANYTHING what TFOTH was trying to say...
and i doubt you understand anything i have to say either.

heck - on second thoughts - forget it... i need no clarifications.


:brishti

skk

Hey TFOTH, I picked up on the family money angle too, but it didn't jar too much - money and genetics do give some children an edge over others - so it goes. Besides it only goes so far - personal commitment, sheer hard work, attitude, are also needed to leverage the innate advantage to this level of performance so kudos to him.

The personal firing range puzzled me too - until I recall that his gold medal is in the 10 meter air-rifle event. A safe firing range for that is a bit more manageable than a gun-powder powered bullets ! But, if that story of modern-day William Tell
feats at the of 5 is really true (I think its just exaggeration) then perhaps his father's attention to safety when constructing a range - air or gunpowder, may not be so high - I'll make a note of where he lives and stay uprange

-skk

TheFoolOnTheHill

Brishti @ #53 - Thank you! You have articulated beautifully what I thought.

As for SA - well I find it best to ignore posts that state a "puhleese" - in caps, even! Not v. nice, no?

skk - yes, exactly, its the family+money angle that comes out.

And no child of mine is going anywhere near an air rifle/catapult/whatever in the hands of a 7 year old - esp. if his father is my employer and paying me 1/10,000 of his income, no?! Prashanth - would your child be volunteered as target practice? Over-reacting? Hmmmm. Just a thought.

Mods, Karuna, thanks for keeping the comments open till now - just checked in.

I'm glad I took the unpopular route anyway - and stand by all I've said.

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capt_mahajan

At least this one mod feels that strong disagreement is fine, as long as it doesnt get personal


Of course, the Nandas and such (Salmon Khan? similarly fishy after Mumbai?) are offtopic to everything.

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