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Old Aug 26th, 2008, 17:20   #181
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What we will come to here is captain is another note from you on how bad our democracy is, and inefficiencies of it. Politicians are bad, and some action needs to be taken.

But I would really like to hear a solution that you can offer, one that is rhetorical, and can be logically implemented. And I hope you will accept that hanging all politicians is simply not possible.

So lets hear a solution to the problem.
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Old Aug 26th, 2008, 20:49   #182
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Offtopic, so stopping after this

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You only have to hang one of them for corruption
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Old Aug 27th, 2008, 01:28   #183
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So lets hear a solution to the problem.
It always stops at this
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Old Aug 27th, 2008, 08:14   #184
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That sentiment, that cleaning up corruption can wait, is precisely what the babus and politicians are counting on.


Nothing wrong with being rich at all.


But to demolish poor homes for the same crime being committed by the middle class and rich in Defence Colony and Vasant Vihar and across Delhi- including former prime ministers and their cronies- smells like a toilet.

We will clean corruption last.

Meanwhile, we will demolish your homes to feed our corruption.

What if I told you that?
Too many good arguements on both sides.
I wish I had a more informed opinion. I love Shashank's pragmatic approach, and respect Capt's position (always). This a thorny one, with no clean solution.

Thanks for all the perspectives.
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Old Aug 27th, 2008, 08:15   #185
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What happened?
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Old Aug 27th, 2008, 12:00   #186
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What happened?
Nothing !! as usual, we are good to criticize but have no logical solution for anything.
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Old Aug 27th, 2008, 13:43   #187
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Old Aug 27th, 2008, 14:46   #188
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Changing the subject somewhat, but still at the Beijing Olympics, during the Closing Ceremony it was mentioned (in the segment of the Handover for the London Olympics in 2012) that the origins of Table Tennis/Ping Pong are not Chinese. According to the London mayor, Boris Johnson, the game was originally known as "Wiff-Waff" or "Riff-Raff" - see this link:






http://londonist.com/2008/08/wiffwaf...e_riffraff.php
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Old Aug 27th, 2008, 14:50   #189
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fiasco at the closing ceremony

Pff off off topic

skk - I'm all aghast at your praise for the ghastly London show at the closing ceremony! You must be the only person on the planet to praise it...just traipse through the London papers to get some idea ... the London bus coming 'apart' was likened to the 7/7 London bombing, among other notable gaffes.

Some excerpts from that link for the lazy ( I'm one of the lazy!)

But even I couldn't have made up what we got on the night.

In the Bird's Nest stadium on Sunday, the decapitated double-decker looked just like the bus blown up in Tavistock Square on July 7.

And who thought it would be a good idea to show a promotional video featuring a picture of Myra Hindley, one of our most notorious murderers, tastefully made up of thousands of children's handprints?

Back home, security jobsworths were busy turning away hundreds of people with tickets from the celebrations in the Mall, and the big screens beaming back events in China broke down.

Over in East London, plans to show the closing ceremony to a crowd at the site of the 2012 Games were abandoned after a teenager was stabbed to death


Ah - now I understand: I see you live in the US. Land of the world news filter - filtering everything except Michael Phelps and some timepass convention in Denver

You are therefore forgiven!





Olympics closing ceremony

Well, its over - and its off to London. I was very pleased to see the UK at 4th in the gold medal league - damn good going for a country with only 6x million people. Well done !

The closing ceremony handover to London was very good - using "Whole Lotta Love" with Jimmy Page ( "Led Zeppelin" )was inspired, IMO - as was the use of the double-decker London bus that changed into a stage. Only one thing jarred.. The bloody bus STOPPED at the bus stop ! Never happened in my day

Well done to all with empathies for the UK - which includes me.

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Old Aug 27th, 2008, 15:06   #190
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I have to agree - I thought it was awful.. if standing on a bus stop under an umbrella is all London has to offer, I can't see why they expect people to go there... and don't mention the interpretive 'dance'.. and had Boris Johnson lost his luggage and borrowed two halves of different suits - jacket too small and pants too big! At least something is now worse than our effort with the blow up kangaroos on bicycles..
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Old Aug 27th, 2008, 15:23   #191
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Time magazine's take

Oh yes Kristinm, nice to read your take on that cringe-worthy show! This on top of the logo fiasco which gave us loads of ...errr...entertainment. As this is a family show/forum I'll be terribly good, and not post all the interpretations of the chosen and the rejected 2012 logos

Here's a another little nugget for the arty types
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Old Aug 27th, 2008, 22:12   #192
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Ah - now I understand: I see you live in the US. Land of the world news filter - filtering everything except Michael Phelps and some timepass convention in Denver

You are therefore forgiven!
This one we can't lay at the feet of the US and its media - they showed the British sequence in the Olympics closing ceremony in its entirety . My comments are strictly the result of my own whiter shade of pale coloured spectacles - absence makes the heart grow fonder and all that - I use the same ones but tinted more much pink when I view things Indian !

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You must be the only person on the planet to praise it...just traipse through the London papers to get some idea
Yeah, I read the Torygraph and Timesonline daily so I do know what you mean - my wife, who unlike me is STILL only Brit, didn't think much of it at all !

I was surprised by her and other people's mean comments about the interpretive dance sequence though - I thought it was avante-garde - but what do I know - the only interpretive dance I paid much attention to was "Pans People" and "Hot Gossip" .

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And who thought it would be a good idea to show a promotional video featuring a picture of Myra Hindley, one of our most notorious murderers, tastefully made up of thousands of children's handprints?
Now, this one - I've tried to see the video for myself - nothing on youtube so I can only go by the news reports - it seems it was a 3 minute promo video made ages ago by the London Tourist board - and while touting British art galleries, it pans across that particularly art piece and it was shown in London House in Beijing to celebrate the handover. I remember the furore about this, and many many other art pieces over many years. I'm glad that art galleries exist, that controversial pieces are shown, that people will come to London to see them, that Britain lives up to its image of a "free to dissent" country.

Its interesting that, perhaps accidentally, nobody airbrushed, or even thought of airbrushing that particular brief shot out of this particular airing of the promo video - it cements my image of intellectual and arty-farty Britain - its a deeply positive image at that. As I think about it more, it certainly contrasts (well, IMO) with the way the Chinese swapped an imperfectly toothed girl with a miming one and dressed up majority ethnic Chinese into 50 different indigenous ethnic minorities instead of using "OEMS" as it were.

If anything, the furore now, with the press and the pols piling on, reminds me of the stupid reactions one gets in the USA - cf that infamous "wardrobe malfunction" at the SuperBowl 4 years ago - and, I'm only comparing and contrasting the furore, NOT the actual images themselves.

Regarding that art piece itself - separate topic !

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Back home, security jobsworths were busy turning away hundreds of people with tickets from the celebrations in the Mall, and the big screens beaming back events in China broke down.
You've got me there - that's not good.

Just some thoughts and no doubt I'm in a distinct minority - which is(was?) one of the good things about the UK - a tolerance of dissent, often even a celebration of it !

Update: Hey, I got round to reading that Richard LittleJohn article you linked to. Great stuff ! I was as I read through it. I know he's been featured in Private Eye's "Street of Shame" column many times but its a unique(?) genre of British journalism and that column is so good - I'll link to it too:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...y-Glitter.html
quote: "post-modern riff on Summer Holiday" , mannn did _that_ make me look in the mirror !

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Old Aug 28th, 2008, 15:45   #193
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Just to be clear, in case anyone thinks otherwise:

In the post by skk above, the first two quotes are my copyrighted words...

The last two quotes are *not* my words but quotations from Richard L's talkbox
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Old Aug 28th, 2008, 15:48   #194
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skk: A channel in the US of A showed the cl/ ceremony in its entirety?

Gooooood heavens! What is this world coming to! And during a campaign at that.

I need a pint to recover from this shock
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