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#1 Nov 10th, 2006, 15:07
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i was going through this intresting article... thought post it for fellow members

Hindus believe that Krishna was the eighth "avatar" or incarnation of the god Vishnu - one of the Hindu deities in the Hindu trinity. Hindu scriptures state that Krishna "appeared in all the fullness of his power and glory." Krishna was born sometime between 900 and 1200 B.C. and his religious teachings can be found in the Bhagavad-Gita, one of the sacred texts in Hinduism. The karmic similarities between Jesus and the Hindu messiah named Krishna (1200 B.C.) are many. There over one hundred similarities between the Hindu and Christian saviors which could easily fill a volume. Some of these similarities are apocryphal which means their source comes from the extra-canonical scriptures of Hinduism.

Identical Life Experiences
(1) Krishna was miraculously conceived and born of the Virgin Devaki ("Divine One") as a divine incarnation.

(2) He was born at a time when his family had to travel to pay the yearly tax.
(3) His father was a carpenter yet Krishna was born of royal descent.
(4) His birth was attended by angels, wise men and shepherds, and he was presented with gifts.

(5) He was persecuted by a tyrant who ordered the slaughter of thousands of infants who feared that the divine child would supplant his kingdom.

(6) His father was warned by a heavenly voice to flee the tyrant who sought the death of the child. The child was then saved by friends who fled with them in the night to a distant country. When the tyrant learned that his attempt to kill the child failed, he issued a decree that all the infants in the area be put to death. Writing about Krishna in the eighteenth century, Sir William Jones stated, "In the Sanskrit dictionary, compiled more than two thousand years ago, we have the whole history of the incarnate deity, born of a virgin, and miraculously escaping in infancy from the reigning tyrant of his country." (Asiatic Researches, Vol. I, p. 273).

(7) The Bible states that Jesus and family fled to Egypt afterward to escape from King Herod. According to the Christian apocryphal text "the Gospel of the Infancy," the family traveled to Maturea, Egypt. Krishna was born in Maturea, India, hundreds of years earlier.

(8) He was baptized in the River Ganges.
(9) The missions of Krishna and Jesus were the same - the salvation of humanity.
(10) Krishna worked miracles and wonders such as raising the dead and healing lepers, the deaf and the blind.

(11) Krishna used parables to teach the people about charity and love.
(12) Jesus taught his disciples about the possibility of removing a mountain by faith. According to tradition, Krishna raised Mount Goverdhen above his disciples to protect his worshipers from the wrath of Indra.

(13) "He lived poor and he loved the poor."
(14) Krishna washed the feet of the Brahmins and transfigured before his disciples.
(15) Krishna's teachings and Jesus' teachings were very similar. The celebrated French missionary and traveler, Evarist-Regis Hucv, who made a journey of several thousand miles through China and Tibet, stated, "If we addressed a Mogul or Tibetan this question, 'Who is Krishna?' the reply was instantly 'The savior of men." According to Robert Cheyne, "All that converting the Hindoos to Christianity does for them is to change the object of their worship from Krishna to Christ." Appleton's Cyclopedia says this about the teachings of Krishna: "Its correspondence with the New Testament is indeed striking."

(16) There is an extra-canonical Hindu tradition which states that Krishna was crucified. According to some traditions, Krishna died on a tree or was crucified between two thieves.

(17) He descended to hell, rose bodily from the dead, and ascended to heaven which was witnessed by many.

(18) Krishna is called the "shepherd god" and "lord of lords," and was considered "the redeemer, firstborn, sin bearer, liberator, universal Word."

(19) He is the second person of the trinity, and proclaimed himself the "resurrection" and the "way to the Father."

(20) He was considered the "beginning, the middle and the end," ("alpha and omega"), as well as being omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent.

(21) His disciples bestowed upon him the title "Jezeus," meaning "pure essence."
(22) Krishna is to return again riding a white horse to do battle with the "prince of evil," who will desolate the earth.




"How, if you hear that the man newly dead is, like the man newly born, still living man - one same, existent Spirit - will you weep? The end of birth is death; the end of death is birth: this is ordained!" - Bhagavad Gita (The Song Celestial: 2)

"I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again ... no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. You should not be surprised at my saying, 'You must be born again.' The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit." - Jesus Christ
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Krishna was miraculously conceived? ---both his parents were in that cell. I don't remember anything about virgin birth.

Krishna's father was a prince. He may have been brought up by village man --- a village man, yes, but the headman of the village, whatever his trade may have been.

His parents were in prison when he was born: they could hardly have travelled anywhere, tax or no.

His birth attended by angels etc: well, would any self-respecting 'god' be born without a bit of a hoo-ha?

Yes, his mother's brother, King Kansha, determined that he would die. He killed all of Devaki's children, except two who escaped, one of which was Krishna. He ordered the death of all male children born on a particular day. This is the only item that has ever struck me as particularly like the Jesus story.

Krishna's baptism? no idea.

Mission: the salvation of humanity? Krishna 'saved' it from the perceived threat at the time, largely by killing the perpetrators of the threat in a massive war which, with its use of 'divine weapons' would perhaps be synonymous with nuclear warfare. Jesus died (perhaps on the cross; that is one theory). People say his death saved the world, though there doesn't seem to be much evidence of that.

Krishna worked miracles, raising the dead, etc. He also killed a lot of people and engineered the deaths of many more. I don't recall him saving life as an act of charity: he certainly ensured that the Pandava bloodline would continue, despite the fact that they were, technically, all dead.

Moving mountains? Maybe Jesus heard the story.

Krishna lived poor? He lived a great deal of his life as a prince among royalty. Even his village youth was surely not one of poverty.

Having your feet washed is something anyone might find happening to them if they are a special guest in a traditional Indian household. I don't think Krishna had disciples in the way that Jesus did.

Why is your 'celebrated missionary and traveller' seeking information about Krishna among Buddhists and Muslims?

I don't think Jesus's ascension was witnessed by many was it? I don't recall the details of Krishna's death. I think someone shot him with an arrow.

Krishna is associated with cowherds, not shepherds. Anyone who, in god terms is considered the big boss is likely to get similar titles.

As for rest, I don't know...

Can't say I'm at all impressed with the writer's reasoning. Sounds to me like a Christian evangelist's it's all one religion really, so you might as well do it our way argument.
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Quite interessting your post. I didn't know this. But know your arcticel got me hooked and I think I'll def. do some research. Thanks!
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All points are baseless and wrong.
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interesting.......once I have read something similar: Krishna is reincarnated about every 500/600 years as another enlightened being ----> buddha, jesus, mohammed, etc.

it's really worth to do more research about this.....
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Originally Posted by vmehra24 All points are baseless and wrong.
Hey! I must learn to use less words too

girlfrom venus.... Krishna is not reincarnated at all: Krishna was one incarnation of Vishnu, as was Ram, and several other beings ---to my shame I cannot remember the list.
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Krishna and Jesus???? Chalk and Cheese!

Krishna was born under testing circumstances and was a cowherd. These might be the nearest comparision to Jesus.

Else K was a hyper kid who played with stuff 10 times his weight, swallowed mud and turned it into a school working model of the solar system in his mouth, turned a mountain on his little finger the way a high school dude spins a notebook; bumped off a humongous dyke , mutilated a 5 headed anaconda, pulverised two killer wrestlers and a bad king; had a whole bunch of eligible damsels rooting for him...all before he got his driving license.

He then spent most of his time flouting the bigamy law and playing Michael Corleone!

Poked his finger into the affairs of his cousins that resulted in an extended picnic for one clan and a major gangwar that eliminated another.

But he got to be a poet and composed and recited a poem that became a hyper pep-talk to one super dude who then with his brothers bumped off their cousins and cousins' associates . The poem is being interpreted in 1,982,334,223 different ways by the descendants.

Jesus...he just tended sheep, perfomed a few magic tricks,spoke soothingly and conquered half the world !
...and I took the road less travelled.
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This is not the best article i've seen on this subject, if you do your research well you'll find many more interesting similarites, as you also will between Jesus & Buddha, from what i've read in the past on this subject they all (J.C. Krishna & Buddha) seemed to be talking about the same thing & leading very similar lives. I can see this thread leading to the BIG Question, so i might as well give it a little push. DID JESUS LIVE IN INDIA? KK
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for more discussion on this subject, head here

http://www.pharmacratic-inquisition.com/

they discuss this, and how apparently it is all linked to astro-theology and magic mushrooms.

interesting, but I haven't done the research yet to comment on whether I agree or not.

their video is available to download and makes for interesting viewing anyway. they have a forum where you can discuss further.
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Originally Posted by kullukid I can see this thread leading to the BIG Question, so i might as well give it a little push. DID JESUS LIVE IN INDIA? KK

http://www.sol.com.au/kor/7_01.htm
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Originally Posted by Rich Anpoor for more discussion on this subject, head here

http://www.pharmacratic-inquisition.com/

they discuss this, and how apparently it is all linked to astro-theology and magic mushrooms.
From the same source:
"Hari Hari holding the mushroom, Unknown, Rama and Hanuman Holding Mushrooms 700-800 C.E. "

Hari Hari ( ) is not holding a mushroom but Sudarshan

Hauman is not holding a mushroom....but an entire mountain
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Originally Posted by Nick-H Krishna is not reincarnated at all: Krishna was one incarnation of Vishnu, as was Ram, and several other beings ---to my shame I cannot remember the list.
so what ? only because he was an incarnation of Vishnu means that he can't be incarnated in different forms after that again ?
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Originally Posted by girlfromvenus so what ? only because he was an incarnation of Vishnu means that he can't be incarnated in different forms after that again ?
In this regard...Nick is right. Reincarnation applies to mortals not God.
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Religion and talk about religion is stupid.
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Give us some time Indo...we are almost there!
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