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The Case for God by Karen Armstrong (Paperback - Sep 7, 2010)
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The God Delusion [Paperback]
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Has anyone read both these books ? They both made waves some time back and Karen Armstrong actually wrote her book in response to Richard Dawkins's book. With dust having settled - is it worth reading both of them ?
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I haven't read Armstrong's one, although I've read a couple of other books by her and I was less than impressed.

'The God Delusion' struck me as one of the more convincing 'There is no God' books, Dawkins makes an excellent case, and yes, it's well worth the read (although I'm a fence-sitter when it comes to the big question myself).
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God is the biggest troll in the universe.

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Just reading Svodoba and he makes a very very convincing case - in fact Shiver Me Timbers after reading about spirits and God a la Svoboda http://www.amazon.com/AGHORA-Left-Ha...6892039&sr=8-3

Try the Smashan Sadhana - worshipping on the body of the corpse - Ma Tara or God will come to you; Tara is the Lady on the Cover of that book
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Originally Posted by Shiver me Timbers View Post I haven't read Armstrong's one, although I've read a couple of other books by her and I was less than impressed.

'The God Delusion' struck me as one of the more convincing 'There is no God' books, Dawkins makes an excellent case, and yes, it's well worth the read (although I'm a fence-sitter when it comes to the big question myself).
End of Faith - Sam Harris,
The Greatest Show on Earth - Richard Dawkins
The Moral Landscape - Sam Harris.

Actually The Greatest Show on Earth was a bit dense and requires at least Freshman level biology, to really appreciate it.

Then there are the Churchlands. BTW, the case, Richard makes, is not so much about Godism but about Evolution and Natural Selection.

There is ofcourse Patricia Churchland and others. The problem, with much of what Harris, Dawkins seem to relish in demolishing, is the dogma and hermeneutics of the text. Its like fishing in a fishbowl How difficult is it, to take apart literal interpretations that tie up traditional theologians and the evangelical in Southern US ? I would say, pretty undergrad


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Originally Posted by samadhi View Post Has anyone read both these books ? They both made waves some time back and Karen Armstrong actually wrote her book in response to Richard Dawkins's book. With dust having settled - is it worth reading both of them ?
Yes, do read, but then also read the Selfish Gene, by Richard Dawkins, Mind, Matter and Method - Feyrabend (ed)s

To appreciate Dawkins, you have to have two things: 1) A basic scientific exposure till at least high school level and bit of Darwin's Theories on Evolution and 2) Not believe that Yankees won 27 World Championship because of Luck and God
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"The God Delusion" is a good read, but Dawkins does know how to belabor a point. Like nycank says, exposure to some of his other books and a basic knowledge of science will help.

Christopher Hitchens' "God is not Great" is also worth a read. Better prose and more polemic than Dawkins.
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Christopher Hitchens' "God is not Great" is also worth a read. Better prose and more polemic than Dawkins.
Christopher Hitchens's God is not Great tries to cover too much territory in a broad brush stroke, similar to Sam Harris's End of Faith. However, a recent interview of Richard Dawkins in the New York Times and Bashing Orthodoxy.
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Observation - all anti God authors are Western !

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Who said? We have plenty of God-bashing books and their authors in India (even before the western authors started to pen them into books), just because they cannot market their books outside India does not make us to question their existence.

Though this one does not really qualify a Anti-God/ God preaching book, it is a very interesting piece considering the fact it was written by someone of his age.
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Observation - all anti God authors are Western
The money religion has largely replaced the notion of God in the west.
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The film, 'Omen' opened with the following lines ...


For those who believe, no explanation is necessary.
For those who do not, no explanation is possible.



These lines seem very apt here also.
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