Sikkim No Longer Part of China

seraph

Good news! Sikkim is no longer part of China.

"Marking a landmark day in Sino-Indian relations, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao today signed an agreement outlining a new strategy to deal with border disputes.

The shift in strategy was evident as India was presented a new map of China without the state of Sikkim."

Check out this link. No doubt there are many other similar articles out there today.

crvlvr

Historically, China has claimed anything it could. Look what China did to Tibet. Now, its trying to annex Taiwan. India and China have fought at least one border dispute war..

vinayverma

But India is on verge (if not already in last 24hrs) given up its claim on to parts of Ladakh and Arunachal pradesh..its really sad. China needs more from India than India from China. In this whole thingy India is going to lose.
Yes market access is one point but India can always go round, as it has been doing for years to access the chinese market.
Chinese stuff did that and noone in Indian wants to buy chinese stuff....as long as its not more than Rs50/-

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temp

Yup, and India now recognizes Tibet as part of China, and is committed to prevent Dalai Lama & Free Tibet movement activity. Yay? Ah well, the Good Life calls!

Here's an article among many about that:
'Free Tibet' push fades as India-China ties warm

For a brief moment Saturday, demonstrators waved the flag of Tibet outside the Chinese Embassy in India's capital. There were only 40 protesters, and it was all over within 20 minutes - a sign of just how feeble the Free Tibet movement has become. As Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao tours India on a four-day state visit, the once estranged Asian giants are talking up stronger economic ties and resolutions to old border disputes, including Tibet. Although New Delhi has all along refused to extend political support to the Tibetan freedom movement, India has indirectly helped keep the cause alive by hosting the Dalai Lama, his exiled government, and some 100,000 Tibetan refugees. But India's willingness to advocate for Tibet is waning as China booms and becomes a crucial trade partner. Other nations, including the United States, have made similar calculations. At the same time, the once-outspoken Dalai Lama has grown quiet in recent years, reducing the Free Tibet campaign to little more than the fading stickers still found in youth hostels and on VW vans the world over.

dzibead

Of course Sikkim never was part of China. The Chinese refusal to acknowledge the 1975 referendum and annexation has always seemed completely bizarre and totally typical of their delusional political thinking. I guess their reasoning was "Sikkim is part of Tibet, and Tibet is part of China, so Sikkim is part of China." But even the pre-1959 Tibetan government in Lhasa did not consider Sikkim to be politically part of Tibet. It recognized Sikkim as an independent kingdom, under British protection before Indian independence, and then under Inidan protection. I find the idea of Sikkim under Chinese rule personally sickening, and the possibility that India may abandon its claim to parts of Ladakh and Auruchal Pradesh ... ???!!! aagh! Please! No!

seraph

Yes, the overall trend regarding the world's commitment to Tibet is sadly clear. Nonetheless, I still maintain that one less border dispute between the world’s two most populous nations is a good thing. (Whether or not China ever had a legitimate claim on Sikkim.)

Indojingai

In a border dispute, you win some you loose sum.
(yeah i'm the most experienced disputed borders broker in the world...)


What India stands to gain is, if now China helps its (India's) manufacturing and Infrastructure. Which for some reason we havent have been able to make better ourselves. We have the old schools, the old offices, some factories and at least one programmer (who works in Japan ;-) )
Now what we need is some faarking capital.

(The US and other big economies dont FDI in us as much as in China,
$50 bln - China, $4 bln - India). I hope China invest its surplus FDI in us.

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Merchant

Someone, I think it was George Fernandes, when asked about how to determine the border between India and China said, "Where the chopsticks end and the fingers begin."

vinayverma

and sadly Chopsticks are longer than the fingers

crvlvr

An interesting background on these developments. I get the feeling China and India are ganging up to taken on the the other economic superpowers.. If I know one thing, India's current PM, Manmohan Singh, understand the need for economic growth in India. Its about time, petty issues are put aside. Tibet? now that is another matter altogether.

Indojingai

Time's view on China & India - 4/4.

The article makes lesser sense now. Could the author have guessed yesterday?? (in some parts seems he did... )



While its true that all they're doing is reporting the truth, in general our American friends (at CNN and Time) have almost none news that is upbeat about India rather most of developing world.

cyberhippie

Ah yes the road to being a superpower is a rocky one!! Justification, fraternity, nepitism, corruption and most of all self interest. All of the above happen because it suits two gigantic trading blocks to to do business. Peoples individual lives fade into the background agianst such trends.
Be prepared to see more traditional ways and norms being eroded as the mighty bear called free trade flexes it's muscles!!
Big business doesn't often stand on principles!!
The world is changing and globalisation only serves to speed up this process. Peoples traditional way off life is changing the world over. What of Europe and America in the coming 10-20 years, we'll certainly see some changes brought about by what's happening in India and China right now!!