Thieving on Trains

Brisso · Dec 12th, 2007, 04:44

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Originally Posted by kristinm

Apologies to our American friends - I'm sure none of them on THIS site are so silly - but Americans are always complementing Australians on our good English - even George Bush referred to our army as the Austrian Army on a recent visit, but then he did think he was at OPEC not APEC... (or vice versa)

Yes - Americans - "So you're from Awstraaaliaa ... where did you learn to speak English?"

karuna · Dec 12th, 2007, 04:56

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A lot of non-British folks completely equate the terms England and UK, in a Holland/The Netherlands, Istanbul/Constantinople, Mumbai/Bombay, etc. kind of way. Which is wrong, obviously, but it's just sort of the way it is.

Yup. I don't think people get worried by it unless they're very political, and then all for the wrong (nationalistic) reasons. In the case of the UK it's our own fault for being so darn complicated. If you add overseas territories in there...oh just don't go there.

I only mention it because I'm just a shameless pedant.

I still have trouble distinguishing a Canadian accent from American and I've probably offended some people along the way with that. I have to try and get them to say "about" before I can work it out!

the opoponax · Dec 12th, 2007, 04:59

I'm an American and I still can only tell the difference after listening very closely. And even then, yeah, they pretty much have to say "aboot" or "sore-y" or make a reference to Tim Horton's for me to be able to confirm.

kristinm · Dec 12th, 2007, 05:03

I can't tell -fortunately the Canadians tend to wear the flag somewhere on their person - bless em.

Hyderabadi · Dec 12th, 2007, 08:17

Take a trip to south of Atlanta folks. Yall will find that another beautiful language exists..

We could even have a meet up.

the opoponax · Dec 12th, 2007, 08:34

Way shore coowud, Hahdruhbayudee!

kristinm · Dec 12th, 2007, 09:08

Only if we can eat grits and collard greens and gravy (I don't even know what they are but they sound good). Actually I did visit a soul food restaurant in NYC and I think we had something like that - amazing corn bread I remember, and fried chicken...mmmm

Is it 'My Name is Earl' territory? We love that show.

PeakXV · Dec 12th, 2007, 09:10

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Originally Posted by the opoponax

I'm an American and I still can only tell the difference after listening very closely. And even then, yeah, they pretty much have to say "aboot" or "sore-y" or make a reference to Tim Horton's for me to be able to confirm.

.... just listen for the term "Double-Double" in reference to coffee - period!

Easy to tell Americans - they turn 'about' into a 3-syllable word ab-ooowww(as in ow pain)-t!

And to those who haven't spent much time in Canada:

We do not travel by dogsled. A loonie is a dollar, not a relative - we live in the second largest country in the world - winter lasts only one season. We live in a house not an igloo - I do not know your second cousin John living in Saskatoon - Our currency was not based on monopoly money. The parliment buildings are not made of ice. The maple leaf is our national symbol - we invented the game known as basketball .... and we are the best hockey players in the world.

(from a Molson Canadian beer ad a few years back)

the opoponax · Dec 12th, 2007, 09:52

mmmm, grits!

mmmmm, collard greens (especially with a little bacon grease thrown in!)

mmmm, corn bread!

Where did y'all eat in New York? Sylvia's? Righteous Urban Barbecue (AKA Rub)?

Have I said how excited I am to be going down South for Christmas this year? Was talking to my mom today, she kept going on about cooking Shrimp Remoulade for Christmas Eve...

kristinm · Dec 12th, 2007, 10:01

Sylvia's - that rings a bell, it was some years ago now (16?). Now you've got me going...I loved NYC... I really want to take Oscar (the son) there for a week it would be such a good city to take a teenager to -so much to do so much to see so many friendly people. Its the only place in the US I've been by the way, I was living in London and a friend's sister needed her cat(!) minded in her apartment in NY - tiny apartment, mad cat! My friend and I went and had a total ball over Christmas and New Year... Went to the Apollo (everything about NY is a song or a TV show or a movie), had Christmas dinner on top of the World Trade Centre (sniff), played Cagney and Lacey around the fire escapes, pretended we were in a Woody Allen movie,skated in that square with the ice rink...drank at an after hours club with Matt Dillon, hung out in alphabet city, went to the bars that Kerouac drank in (Kettle of Fish? Near Washington Sq I think)... What A BRILLIANT city. It was freezing though so we didn't go on the ferry, or out of Manhattan (I'd love to see Brooklyn) or into Central Park.

the opoponax · Dec 12th, 2007, 10:33

if it was 16 years ago, it probably would have been Sylvia's, as there was very little soul food or barbecue or anything southern when I moved here 7 years ago. 3 or 4 years ago there was suddenly this HUGE trend for southern food, and now there are 5 or 10 southern style restaurants around the city.

Sounds like you had a brilliant time! Much more exciting than most holidays I've had, and I've had 7 of them!

As for the Kerouac bar, I'm guessing the White Horse? That's the main old 50's bar in the West Village which is still around, where all the Beat Poets drank (it's also the bar where Dylan Thomas literally drank himself to death). Though it could also be the Cedar (where the abstract expressionists of the same era drank). It could also be McSoreley's, which is in the same part of town but is slightly less colorful (and more associated with the turn of the century -- O. Henry used to write there).

And you should definitely come back! And bring your son!

Though Brooklyn is nowhere near the same as when you were last here -- the whole city, really...

Aishah · Dec 12th, 2007, 18:44

Is this the Thieving on Trains Thread? I think it should be moved to Chai and Chat now! Sylvia's? I don't know why but I immediately associated with Sybil from Fawlty Towers at this point...Sorry to ramble folks, in the middle of a serious discussion about languages, puns etc.

karuna · Dec 12th, 2007, 19:09

You should post another warning Aishah and get it locked so it can't be derailed! It was useful info....

Aishah · Dec 12th, 2007, 19:20

i suppose if you search on 'train' and 'thieving' you would find it! The important stuff is right at the beginning... not that all the rest isn't important either!

machadinha · Dec 12th, 2007, 19:22

The info is still there yes, and interested parties are likely to click at the beginning or scroll back there. So I guess it's fine as it is. The meandering ways of some threads here just come as an extra added bonus

Dec 12th, 2007, 10:33	#71
the opoponax Maha Guru Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brooklyn, via New Orleans Posts: 1,052	if it was 16 years ago, it probably would have been Sylvia's, as there was very little soul food or barbecue or anything southern when I moved here 7 years ago. 3 or 4 years ago there was suddenly this HUGE trend for southern food, and now there are 5 or 10 southern style restaurants around the city. Sounds like you had a brilliant time! Much more exciting than most holidays I've had, and I've had 7 of them! As for the Kerouac bar, I'm guessing the White Horse? That's the main old 50's bar in the West Village which is still around, where all the Beat Poets drank (it's also the bar where Dylan Thomas literally drank himself to death). Though it could also be the Cedar (where the abstract expressionists of the same era drank). It could also be McSoreley's, which is in the same part of town but is slightly less colorful (and more associated with the turn of the century -- O. Henry used to write there). And you should definitely come back! And bring your son! Though Brooklyn is nowhere near the same as when you were last here -- the whole city, really... Last edited by machadinha : Dec 12th, 2007 at 18:57. Reason: merged posts

Dec 12th, 2007, 18:44	#72
Aishah She-who-must-be-obeyed! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Jaisalmer Posts: 5,491	Is this the Thieving on Trains Thread? I think it should be moved to Chai and Chat now! Sylvia's? I don't know why but I immediately associated with Sybil from Fawlty Towers at this point...Sorry to ramble folks, in the middle of a serious discussion about languages, puns etc. __________________ "Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards."

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machadinha Not Your Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: yörp Posts: 11,153	The info is still there yes, and interested parties are likely to click at the beginning or scroll back there. So I guess it's fine as it is. The meandering ways of some threads here just come as an extra added bonus __________________ Reading tips, all picked up at IndiaMike : INDAX's A Comprehensive Guide To India / Dinoj Surendran's Desi Humor / ITHVC on Culture Shock & Travel Health / JetLag Travel Guides For the Undiscerning Traveller / India Travel Links

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Dec 12th, 2007, 04:59	#63
the opoponax Maha Guru Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brooklyn, via New Orleans Posts: 1,052	I'm an American and I still can only tell the difference after listening very closely. And even then, yeah, they pretty much have to say "aboot" or "sore-y" or make a reference to Tim Horton's for me to be able to confirm.

Dec 12th, 2007, 05:03	#64
kristinm Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Beautiful Bondi (not Bundi!) Posts: 1,524	I can't tell -fortunately the Canadians tend to wear the flag somewhere on their person - bless em.

Dec 12th, 2007, 08:17	#65
Hyderabadi Maha Guru Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: GA,USA. Posts: 1,121	Take a trip to south of Atlanta folks. Yall will find that another beautiful language exists.. We could even have a meet up.

Dec 12th, 2007, 08:34	#66
the opoponax Maha Guru Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brooklyn, via New Orleans Posts: 1,052	Way shore coowud, Hahdruhbayudee!

Dec 12th, 2007, 09:08	#67
kristinm Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Beautiful Bondi (not Bundi!) Posts: 1,524	Only if we can eat grits and collard greens and gravy (I don't even know what they are but they sound good). Actually I did visit a soul food restaurant in NYC and I think we had something like that - amazing corn bread I remember, and fried chicken...mmmm Is it 'My Name is Earl' territory? We love that show.

Dec 12th, 2007, 09:52	#69
the opoponax Maha Guru Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brooklyn, via New Orleans Posts: 1,052	mmmm, grits! mmmmm, collard greens (especially with a little bacon grease thrown in!) mmmm, corn bread! Where did y'all eat in New York? Sylvia's? Righteous Urban Barbecue (AKA Rub)? Have I said how excited I am to be going down South for Christmas this year? Was talking to my mom today, she kept going on about cooking Shrimp Remoulade for Christmas Eve...

Dec 12th, 2007, 10:01	#70
kristinm Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Beautiful Bondi (not Bundi!) Posts: 1,524	Sylvia's - that rings a bell, it was some years ago now (16?). Now you've got me going...I loved NYC... I really want to take Oscar (the son) there for a week it would be such a good city to take a teenager to -so much to do so much to see so many friendly people. Its the only place in the US I've been by the way, I was living in London and a friend's sister needed her cat(!) minded in her apartment in NY - tiny apartment, mad cat! My friend and I went and had a total ball over Christmas and New Year... Went to the Apollo (everything about NY is a song or a TV show or a movie), had Christmas dinner on top of the World Trade Centre (sniff), played Cagney and Lacey around the fire escapes, pretended we were in a Woody Allen movie,skated in that square with the ice rink...drank at an after hours club with Matt Dillon, hung out in alphabet city, went to the bars that Kerouac drank in (Kettle of Fish? Near Washington Sq I think)... What A BRILLIANT city. It was freezing though so we didn't go on the ferry, or out of Manhattan (I'd love to see Brooklyn) or into Central Park.

Dec 12th, 2007, 19:09	#73
karuna The cat's mother Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: the wrong side of the Y-A-M-U-N-A Posts: 1,943	You should post another warning Aishah and get it locked so it can't be derailed! It was useful info....

Dec 12th, 2007, 19:20	#74
Aishah She-who-must-be-obeyed! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Jaisalmer Posts: 5,491	i suppose if you search on 'train' and 'thieving' you would find it! The important stuff is right at the beginning... not that all the rest isn't important either!

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