Thier still at it.....another jewellery scam!

NeeliAankhen · Apr 24th, 2007, 13:51

I was thinking about that, I remember reading or hearing something to the effect that the con artist plays on the mark's readiness to cheat someone else or do something illegal.

But some scams just involve dishonest sales events - selling people non-existent or underwater property, or getting them to make fraudulent "investments" that go into the pocket of the (disappearing) "salesman."

I'd continue to be more sympathetic to Crystal - and probably become sympathetic again - if she'd stayed in the conversation, but I am at this point thinking trollerie may be going on.

Though it is useful to be reminded that when you travel you can run into more complex scams as well as simpler things like being told your hotel has burned down . . .

capt_mahajan · Apr 24th, 2007, 13:53

Waiting for godot, err crystal....

Nick-H · Apr 24th, 2007, 13:59

One has to give people a day or two to come back --- I've made that mistake myself. Some people have internet at home only, some at work only, some only in public places.

So give her a day or two.

In which time, if there are no further responses, the thread will have slipped away into IM's past anyway...

cyberhippie · Apr 24th, 2007, 14:03

Proof in any was needed that there are seldom any "free lunches" in life!

Nick-H · Apr 24th, 2007, 15:21

...These people should cut out the middle man!

Go buy a pack of precious stones, send it to themselves, or take it back and flog them.

If they are not prepared to be smugglers on their own accord, and take the risk, both ends, then why do they do it for someone else? And why do they let those people persuade them it will be easy?

Digital Drifter · Apr 24th, 2007, 15:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick-H

If they are not prepared to be smugglers on their own accord, and take the risk, both ends, then why do they do it for someone else? And why do they let those people persuade them it will be easy?

I just bought some mutual funds.....

*casts a baleful eye at Nick

Vasko · Apr 24th, 2007, 17:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by girlone

Amazes me when people think they can make a quick buck without consequences. There's no such thing as a free lunch!!!!

G1

...except for scamsters feeding on the ignorance of those who believe there is.

Jamie11 · Apr 24th, 2007, 17:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vasko

...except for scamsters feeding on the ignorance of those who believe there is.

Great answer!

nayan · Apr 24th, 2007, 21:17

Well, its not exactly free lunch for the scamsters

They have to put in some effort...
1. spot a likely target
2. arrange initial confidence building measures - spend money on drinks, local trips etc.
3. some spending required on fradulent papers, stamps etc
4. most likely - bribe some local officials
5. have some kind of emergency exit plans in case whole thing backfires.

I guess only the ones who have done a good groundwork succeed in this trade.

So.... No free lunch

PeakXV · Apr 24th, 2007, 21:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick-H

One has to give people a day or two to come back --- I've made that mistake myself. Some people have internet at home only, some at work only, some only in public places.

So give her a day or two.

In which time, if there are no further responses, the thread will have slipped away into IM's past anyway...

She's quite possibly involved in a marathon session of one of her profiled guilty pleasures.

...... chocolate ice cream eating to be specific.

- so give her some MORE time please.

......(he says while still feeling remanents of the barb in mid facial mucous membrane)

sirensongs · Apr 24th, 2007, 22:49

Quote:

.Greeted by young friendly Indian guy at guesthouse

Oh man, this was your first clue!!

capt_mahajan · Apr 24th, 2007, 22:52

I am, then, an ideal scammer... old and unfriendly

sirensongs · Apr 24th, 2007, 22:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by capt_mahajan

I am, then, an ideal scammer... old and unfriendly

No, Cap'n, you are my good friend! and I really love the free tea I get when I visit your curio shoppe.

Nick-H · Apr 24th, 2007, 23:10

Chocolate ice cream?

So that's what they offered her?

Oh well... I guess some things are just irresistible

robotvoice · Apr 25th, 2007, 03:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeeliAankhen

I was thinking about that, I remember reading or hearing something to the effect that the con artist plays on the mark's readiness to cheat someone else or do something illegal.

the perfect crime... one that can't be reported.

Apr 24th, 2007, 13:59	#48
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Apr 24th, 2007, 13:51	#46
NeeliAankhen Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New York, NY USA Posts: 268	I was thinking about that, I remember reading or hearing something to the effect that the con artist plays on the mark's readiness to cheat someone else or do something illegal. But some scams just involve dishonest sales events - selling people non-existent or underwater property, or getting them to make fraudulent "investments" that go into the pocket of the (disappearing) "salesman." I'd continue to be more sympathetic to Crystal - and probably become sympathetic again - if she'd stayed in the conversation, but I am at this point thinking trollerie may be going on. Though it is useful to be reminded that when you travel you can run into more complex scams as well as simpler things like being told your hotel has burned down . . .

Apr 24th, 2007, 13:53	#47
capt_mahajan (in charge of navel affairs) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 10,602	Waiting for godot, err crystal....

Apr 24th, 2007, 14:03	#49
cyberhippie Account Closed by User's Request Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 6,012	Proof in any was needed that there are seldom any "free lunches" in life!

Apr 24th, 2007, 15:21	#50
Nick-H Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 27,792	...These people should cut out the middle man! Go buy a pack of precious stones, send it to themselves, or take it back and flog them. If they are not prepared to be smugglers on their own accord, and take the risk, both ends, then why do they do it for someone else? And why do they let those people persuade them it will be easy?

Apr 24th, 2007, 21:17	#54
nayan Maha Guru Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: hyderabad/tokyo Posts: 1,144	Well, its not exactly free lunch for the scamsters They have to put in some effort... 1. spot a likely target 2. arrange initial confidence building measures - spend money on drinks, local trips etc. 3. some spending required on fradulent papers, stamps etc 4. most likely - bribe some local officials 5. have some kind of emergency exit plans in case whole thing backfires. I guess only the ones who have done a good groundwork succeed in this trade. So.... No free lunch

Apr 24th, 2007, 22:52	#57
capt_mahajan (in charge of navel affairs) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 10,602	I am, then, an ideal scammer... old and unfriendly

Apr 24th, 2007, 23:10	#59
Nick-H Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 27,792	Chocolate ice cream? So that's what they offered her? Oh well... I guess some things are just irresistible

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