Thier still at it.....another jewellery scam!

Jamie11

Crystal, you wanted to make a quick buck by (as you thought) smuggling gems to avoid tax, so you were happy to scam people yourself, now you realise youve been royally conned you are upset and want to be helped out by someone officail, the same people you were happy to cheat. you got no one to blame but yourself, take ur loss and move on lesson learnt.

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nomad

but as you said you have paid from your CC and still have not received the stuff, cant you present the case like you purchased something and you did not get delivery and now they are asking for extra money to bribe customs? skipp the part that you were planning to sell it to someone.

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Nick-H

Wait... you lost $15,000 and an airline ticket?

How can you loose an airline ticket?

Air tickets are not transferable. One might get away with trying to check in under someone elses, just as people have travelled on wrong passports --- but it would be quite a risk to try it.

you lost $15,000 --- about £7,500? more than 6 Lakh rupees? The price of a new small car? And you're not shouting to every police force in every country you've even flown over? ***

I'm just ever so slightly wondering if I'm supposed to believe this. Just heading off to look up 'gullible' myself....

***Oh, Australian dollars.... but surely still quite a lot of money

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capt_mahajan

Considering the OP

a) says she isn't even aware of what she signed
b) clearly had intent to "bring their jewellery into other countries avoiding India's govenment taxes"

I would be careful before running to the cops.

And she can't even claim that she bought the jewellery and it never got delivered, because she signed a receipt saying it did.

Jamie11

I think Im on similar view as capt_mahajan

this girl wanted to make money by being part of a scam, she got her fingers burnt and is now whinging and wants sympathy and her money back. Come on people, why does she think she is entitled to compensation, she was happy to make the money by deciet.

Said my bit, I'll shut up now.

nayan

Sorry for an offtopic question ..... I have always wondered about this Gem scam.
Does an exporter (gem or whatever else) have to pay tax/duties/customs etc in the exporting country? I had thought these kind of taxes only had to be paid to the importing country govt.
I got this idea because customs checking occurs when you are entering a country - not when you are leaving one.

please excuse me if my question is very stupid.

Jamie11

not a stupid question, you are right, you have to pay import duty, also, you have to pay VAT, in the uk this is 17.5%, you can reclaim the VAT if you are vat registered.

Nick-H

...for personal stuff, yes.

For commercial exports there are restrictions and taxes to pay, so smuggling stuff out does get done as well as in.

edwardseco

Small point, they're in the title, after an expensive education on life..

kmalik

I read the original post twice. We get a blow-by-blow until we get to the key part. After being shown some photocopies of the passports etc., things get very hazy rather quickly. At least I could not make much sense out of what actually transpired other than signing some documents, credit card swiped and airline ticket used (something I am still wondering about). While it seems the OP got scammed, there is more to it than meets the eye.

I too am a little short of sympathy for the OP as there is a clear intent on her own part to scam the Indian taxpayer and from the sums involved, it is not 200 Rupees we are talking about.

I'd still suggest that OP report the crime to the local police (who have no jurisdiction to charge her) and take it from there.

Nick-H

Bit concerned about your last stement, Kmalik... if she has committed a crime under Indian law, surely they do have jurisdiction?

Digital Drifter

Will you stop your eyes from widening like daffy duck & getting so worked up?


(Actually, I just picked my slack lower jaw from the floor)

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Jamie11

I still dont understand this view point, report a scam yes, but surely not after you have tried and failed to profit illegally from it yourself,

"excuse me officer, but I participated in a scam, I didnt make any illegal money, so now im upset, can you help me get my money back, that I stupidly lost".

the scammers are no good, sure. but they are there because of the likes of "Crystal", they wasnt scaming someone out of something legitimate, they made money out of someone trying to make money illegally, she knew she was , or at least thought she was, participating in something illegal.

Nick-H

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Good point, Jamie.




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kmalik

Nick - I meant the local, i.e. Australian, police. She has not committed any crimes in Australia - and her crime under Indian law hardly seems like an extraditable offense.

That said, I am no lawyer. She might be well advised to speak to a lawyer.

Personally, I believe she can atone for her deeds and stupidity by reporting the scam artists and give herself a chance to recover some of her money by pursuing this matter instead of walking away, as some have advised. Ultimately, it is her call - and she ought to get a legal opinion.