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#1 Dec 10th, 2014, 21:20
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I can only speak to the north of the country as I have not been too far south. I found the level of rudeness appalling. At Metro stations in Delhi people pushed and shoved even when there was hardly a line.

The Taj Mahal line was chaotic even for the foreign tourist queue. We were pushed shoved and grabbed as we attempted, successfully, to buy our tickets.

Exiting the train at Shimla - last stop - we were almost bowled over by passengers fighting to get off.

At the airport at 4:am as we were entering IGA to leave, someone tried to push past us -- he did not manage it --as we entered security. On the plane I had to get assistance from the flight attendant to remove an Indian guy out of my seat. He was rude to the flight attendant and was threatened with expulsion from the plane. With much scowling and nasty looks he eventually had to move to his assigned seat.

What is it with Indians? I love the country but some of the habits are mind boggling.
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Exiting the train at Shimla - last stop - we were almost bowled over by passengers fighting to get off.

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The same can be said for trying to exit from a tube in London at rush hour. In fact the first word someone spoke to me when recently arriving back in the UK was a swearword - welcome home

I don't think this rudeness happens in just India, or even just in the North? This will happen everywhere won't it? This rudeness is just 'people' and not specific to 'Indian people'. I think it's down to an individual persons bad habits, like being inconsiderate and rude and that you can't stereotype groups of people as all being like that.
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Originally Posted by NYTim View Post I love the country but some of the habits are mind boggling.
and we keep going back, right?

IMO, it starts when I get on the last plane whether in Germany or Abu Dhabi: when boarding is announced, it's everyone for themselves. I've seen women and children knocked over as men rush to get on. rude a##holes. You'd think it was like flying Southwest where there are no assigned seats!

I think self-entitlement has increased all over the world in the 21st century, but IMO, south India is a softer landing than the north.
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I can understand pushing and shoving at rush hour as one might not get on or off. This was not rush hour and the train was relatively empty. It seems that Indians have an anxiety level higher than most places I have been -- and I have been all over Asia. I have never seen people jumping queues the way I saw them doing it in Delhi.
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If you don't push and shove your way on and off a plane/train/bus etc. then the one billion people in the 'queue' behind you will beat you to it.

NYTim, it's true. Indians are unnecessarily ruder than persons in many other countries. It is the meditation at home that 'done it'. Thank you for your gentle understanding.
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The rudeness is even more when you're dealing face to face with someone, say a rickshaw driver. And much more towards Indians than to a foreigner. Try talking to a rickshaw driver in Bangalore or Chennai! Being from the south, I felt talking to someone in say Delhi or Bombay is much easier.
It's sad, but then it's something like "we are like this only!"; wait in a queue but still push, wait at a traffic signal but still honk continuously etc etc..
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Seems a bit rich to me. A self confessed Jock complaining about rudeness.
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Originally Posted by Sama View Post I've seen women and children knocked over as men rush to get on. rude a##holes.
I have seen men knocked over by women in Moscow and at Schiphol. Its not gender specific either.
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Some people are rude, and thats it! nothing to do with indians!
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and some people are ruder than others.
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Originally Posted by inditramp View Post I have seen men knocked over by women in Moscow and at Schiphol. Its not gender specific either.
and I've seen people line up by number and wait patiently in line for a Southwest Airlines flight in the US -- because SW does not do assigned seating. so your point is?

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Originally Posted by NYTim View Post I can only speak to the north of the country as I have not been too far south. I found the level of rudeness appalling. At Metro stations in Delhi people pushed and shoved even when there was hardly a line.

The Taj Mahal line was chaotic even for the foreign tourist queue. We were pushed shoved and grabbed as we attempted, successfully, to buy our tickets.

Exiting the train at Shimla - last stop - we were almost bowled over by passengers fighting to get off.

At the airport at 4:am as we were entering IGA to leave, someone tried to push past us -- he did not manage it --as we entered security. On the plane I had to get assistance from the flight attendant to remove an Indian guy out of my seat. He was rude to the flight attendant and was threatened with expulsion from the plane. With much scowling and nasty looks he eventually had to move to his assigned seat.

What is it with Indians? I love the country but some of the habits are mind boggling.
Normally I would ignore claims like this, but it seems you are trying to repeat a lie, until people believe it is the truth! I have travelled in Delhi and the New York City Metro( across Manhattan, Brooklyn, and Queens), and can say the Delhi Metro is a better experience, across the board. Even during a short power outage that delayed trains for 30 minutes, I found the crowds to be very well behaved.

To put 'pushing' on scale, you should try the Tokyo subway at rushtime!!

Finally, have you never seen a passenger take another person's seat on airplanes in the USA? Happens to me all the time, especially when I have an exit row aisle seat reserved ! Usually a smile and a look at your boarding pass is enough to have the 'offender' move on..but I have had situations where 2 of us had the same seat assignment( computer snafu, oversold flight... ).
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Pushing on the Metro I expect. Queue jumping to purchase tokens is just plain rude. Never see it in NYC, London, Hong Kong, or any other major city. For the benefit of the less educated, Dave W had better explain what a self confessed Jock is. And we are quite polite.
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Originally Posted by Sama View Post so your point is?
I thought it was obvious.
Rudeness is irrespective of demographic or gender. Like you said...some are ruder than others.
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There's good and bad everywhere. The rushing and crushing is a cultural thing that is not exclusive to India. I think it partly comes from such a frenetic pace of life. Additionally, some of the friendliest and kindest people I've ever met Ive met in India. There's no way I could attribute 'rudeness' to an entire group of people from my experiences in the country.
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