Indians scammed buying fake phones in rush prior to train departure

#1 Apr 19th, 2014, 12:23
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Here is an interesting story:
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“The culprit first purchases a high-end phone at a cheap price from contacts in the black market. He packs it in a purse and tries to sell it to a group of migrant workers. He bargains till there are only few minutes for the train to depart and then sells the phone for a huge profit,” said a source.

When the train is just about to depart, he shows another passenger a soap bar in a purse, packaged to look like a phone, and quotes a much lower price.

“Some passengers, who had been witness to the initial sales, made the purchase, believing it to be real. But by the time they opened the purse, the train would have started moving and the conman would have fled with the money,” said the source.

The conman either shapes a soap bar to resemble a phone or keeps it inside a dummy phone so that it feels heavy.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/...cle5923177.ece
#2 Apr 19th, 2014, 14:05
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The story doesn't make any sense. Why would anyone pay Rs.8000 without even opening and checking the phone first?. Migrant workers will be more careful with their money because of their meagre incomes.

Con men will always be there and people who fall for such silly tricks need to be blamed first.
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You did not get the full story. He first bargains with a real phone which he sells at a good margin for himself. That is the one with the starting price of Rs 8000, which everyone around gets to see. Then in the last minute when the train is about to depart he offers additional bargains to bystanders who witnessed the previous deal, at a fantastically lower price, hard to resist. These are the fake ones; the buyers don't have time to check.
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Only the greedy and or the trusting can be conned! So don't be greedy and never trust and you will never ever be conned!
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Originally Posted by India-addict View Post never trust...
That would be a hard way to travel, with such a projection that everyone out there is a potential predator. I always trust*. This way everyone is a potential friend first. But then being careful with parting with money, except for clearly needy people.

Even after ten years spent in India, I am still quite surprised when it comes to people giving their word on something and not keeping it. I am still a bit disappointed each time I am taken for a (small) ride. But I like it this way, rather than going around with an attitude of always presuming the worst.

*I trust people, but not necessarily situations.
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Originally Posted by atala View Post You did not get the full story. He first bargains with a real phone which he sells at a good margin for himself. That is the one with the starting price of Rs 8000, which everyone around gets to see. Then in the last minute when the train is about to depart he offers additional bargains to bystanders who witnessed the previous deal, at a fantastically lower price, hard to resist. These are the fake ones; the buyers don't have time to check.
If you are prepared to buy something without checking you deserve whatever you get. For Gods sake, people remember no-one is out to do you a favour, if its sounds too good to be true then it probably is.
Lord, Grant me the Serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those people I had to kill because they pissed me off.
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Originally Posted by prince09 View Post The story doesn't make any sense. Why would anyone pay Rs.8000 without even opening and checking the phone first?. .
It does make sense. In a non-Indian version of the same con, the purchaser of a laptop at an irresistible price finds theat they have a boxful of potato, or some other worthless substance approximating the right weight.

Not sure: is this called bait and switch? Or is that a different con?

Everyone wants something for nothing. The field is wide open for different techniques of giving nothing for something.
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Originally Posted by atala View Post That would be a hard way to travel, with such a projection that everyone out there is a potential predator. I always trust*. This way everyone is a potential friend first. But then being careful with parting with money, except for clearly needy people.

Even after ten years spent in India, I am still quite surprised when it comes to people giving their word on something and not keeping it. I am still a bit disappointed each time I am taken for a (small) ride. But I like it this way, rather than going around with an attitude of always presuming the worst.

*I trust people, but not necessarily situations.
Going on small rides often is just setting yourself up for a big ride! Yes never trusting is a hard way to live and travel. But not everyone afford to go on rides neither big nor small often! Well if you have to trust ,trust but verify!
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Not sure: is this called bait and switch? Or is that a different con?

Everyone wants something for nothing. The field is wide open for different techniques of giving nothing for something.
Still happens in NYC. Specially in shops selling electronics and cameras. Victims ? Foreign tourists ! Those dodgy stores with salegals in lowcut tops and guys with 10 kilo of gold chains and John-Travolta hairdo After you succeed in this line of business, you sell Credit-default-swaps, or promise to hide monies in off-shore banks
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Those dodgy stores with salegals in lowcut tops
"Can I help you?"

"No thanks, I'm just looking "
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What a crap original post!

And....................... so many serious responses!

Unbelievable!

Even more so than the dodgy first post!
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What vehement response! One for each eye too! [Well, there was, until the double post got deleted ]

It's just another scam. The thing about scams is that people do actually fall for them.




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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post The thing about scams is that people do actually fall for them.
Paul Frampton, Denis Milani, New York Times and Me - Google is your friend. Theoretical Particle Physics can do that to you
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There's an easy secret to avoiding all sorts of scam. Simply send me Rs 1000 and I'll tell you how.
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Originally Posted by harvestmouse View Post There's an easy secret to avoiding all sorts of scam. Simply send me Rs 1000 and I'll tell you how.
Your location says France. Do I have to deposit the money in some bank in India? Let me know the details. This interests me.

Also, I hope and pray you're not a fake. But for now, you have my trust.


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