I'm not going there again,,,,,,,,

Watson · Dec 8th, 2004, 02:23

I will never never never spend more than 5 minutes in Jhansi unless travel forces me to. Unfreindly, in your face and absolutely annoying place. Otherwise I'd go absolutely everywhere else except possibly Pushkar. Pushkar is overrated in my book.
Love and peace

Padma · Dec 8th, 2004, 03:16

Patna train station. I am yet to see Patna itself so can't comment on its possible delights but they will have to magically transport me out of the train and away from the station before I go there again. 18 Hours of hell, too sick to move out of the station and I ended up punching a guy for groping me in the ticket line

Not a high point for my trip. But even that said, I did spend a few hours lying on the ground in the station people watching (and being watched) and it was quite fun. Nothing in life is without its bright side if you look hard enough.

dandyworhol · Dec 8th, 2004, 03:40

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Originally Posted by seventies'hippy

I'm not going there again,,,,,,,
Have you ever said that? Have you decided to not visit a particular place again.
We've all got & have read about everyones favourite place in India, But what about your least favourite, Why?, what makes it so.
For me reluctantly it's got to be North Goa. sorry to all present & future Goa lovers, I used to love the place too. I've been back several times in recent years on I guess a wave of nostalgia., but really it's beauty is getting so so spoilt these days, plastic bottle mountains & litter everywhere. English pubs, kareoke nights, tourists who fly in for a couple of weeks and don't give a toss for anything apart from a suntan etc, You know what I'm saying.
So I guess that particular destination's been put in the archives for me.

So, We all share our favorite places, but whats your least favourite place and why,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

I know what you're saying but don't tar all the 2 week tourists with the same brush Seventies........I've been to South India half a dozen times in that guise and some day I hope to stay for longer. It doesn't mean to say I don't care or respect the country and it's peoples!

To answer your initial question..........Baga/Calangute - the deterioration in the past 10 years saddens me.

gluedtoweb · Dec 8th, 2004, 06:37

Good. At this rate tourists will diminsh throughout India.
Probably too negative. Not a very great thread for beginners.
May be we should start a thread "I would certainly go back again".
Or Scare the hell out of everybody and let those tourist destinations realize the damage and correct some of its deficiancies.

crvlvr · Dec 8th, 2004, 07:42

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Or Scare the hell out of everybody and let those tourist destinations realize the damage and correct some of its deficiancies.

Sounds like a plan to me

bijapuri · Dec 8th, 2004, 10:06

Agra, Agra Agra . . . . what 2 do???

Swearing off the place doesn't always help.

I know it too well, but ended up visiting TWICE this year, as a tourist! It seems that people who haven't seen the TaJ NEED to see it,hence my son and wife on separate trips were shown the place. Still haven't found a decent place to stay

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monkgonemad · Dec 8th, 2004, 11:19

tourist ventures:

A. the 'great' cities of rajasthan - a bust
B. fatehpur sikri - nothing special
C. pune
D. delhi/mumbai (but i dont know these places, so just big and full of hassles)
E. agra/taj - lovely building but HIGHLY overrated.
F. colva - quiet, but lack of g.h. the touts on the beach were annoying
G. armitsar - (xing from paki) golden temple was cool for a look, but i slept there and i was unable to sleep. it was a real bust, should have taken a room!
--------------------------------------------------------------
1. i rather liked puskar, had 0 problems in 2 full days (but i was travelling alone and stayed outside)
2. i really like the old city of vananasi (january). new part was full of tous/hassle (go figure).
3. kujaraho was ok for me, again a cold winter (no tourists, no touts)

these are touisty palces, not like sunauli, etc...

kashyap_rajput · Dec 8th, 2004, 11:21

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Originally Posted by Karma Queen

is there really anything to do in ahmedabad? seemed like a bit of a dive to me!

Well in Ahmedabad you can visit...

1. Gandhiji's Sabarmati Ashram
2. mosqe of Siddhi saiyad
3. Adalaj vaav (old wel)
4. Gujarat Science city

and ofcourse the quite peaceful city taking shape of concrete jungle

(shopping malls, multiplex theatres... )

regards

kashyap

begreen9 · Dec 8th, 2004, 11:34

This is an interesting thread. One's personal experiences and perspective can be very different from another's. For example, we loved Agra, but went with some simple rules - avoid all markets and let your driver know this, then relax, don't try to see to much. We went to see the Taj at sunrise, this was a great decision. The touts were minimal, crowds low and the light was magic. While in Agra we also saw Sikandra, the fort and Itimad-ud-Daulah. We took our time and soaked in the incredible history of this city. We stayed at the Howard Park which was centrally located and at a good price because they are renovating and offering good rates (about Rs 2000 for a nice room).
On a different note, we had a poor time in Mt. Abu. Unforturnately, while we were there, our son was sick with the flu and municipal elections were in full swing. This was a special kind of hell. There were 4-6 jeeps with 10,000 watt PA systems strapped aboard, blaring campaigns for the competing candidates from sunup to sunset. This really ruined the town for us. However, the day we left, the campaigns stopped and all was peaceful. It was just a case of bad timing.
Jaipur was probably our worst experience. I got sick due to a virus. The touts were unbelievable, and most importantly, this was our first time in a major Indian tourist city. We hadn't developed the thick skin needed to let the touts know that we just weren't interested. At one point, we rolled down the windows of our car and had no less than 6 different arms shoved in our windows with puppets, trinkets and postcards. It was awful. After Jaipur we made a vow to avoid shopping in any big tourist town and that made a big difference in future experiences.
We lived in Delhi for two months and grew very fond of the city in spite of its horrendous air pollution. It helped that we lived in a great neighborhood (Defence Colony) and had a great driver. The town is very cosmopolitan, has excellent shopping and restaurants, yet it also has some great green parks and a wealth of history. After traveling for two weeks in Rajesthan, Delhi seemed incredibly organized, clean and pleasant. It all comes down to one's POV.

seventies'hippy · Dec 8th, 2004, 13:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by dandyworhol

I know what you're saying but don't tar all the 2 week tourists with the same brush Seventies........I've been to South India half a dozen times in that guise and some day I hope to stay for longer. It doesn't mean to say I don't care or respect the country and it's peoples!

To answer your initial question..........Baga/Calangute - the deterioration in the past 10 years saddens me.

Oh I'm not putting them all in the same boat, Goa is often the first place many people go to in India & from there get the calling & explore further afield & discover untold plearures & are hooked for life,,,,,,,,
Others may as well be on one of the Costa's, they don't come to India because they want to come to India they come because it's a cheap easy to get to winter sun holiday destination from europe, It wouldn't matter where they happened to be in the world as long as it had sunshine, cheap booze & satellite sports tv,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Dino · Dec 8th, 2004, 18:44

Sometimes an experience of a place can be tainted by how uncomfortable one is at the time.I know the Thar Desert is a beautiful and exotic location and the pages in our photo album would attest to this.But I never,ever,ever want to spend two days on a camel again.Beauty is tainted when your arse is being flayed red raw,and you willingly paid money for the torture.

SitaParityaga · Dec 8th, 2004, 20:15

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Originally Posted by seventies'hippy

Others may as well be on one of the Costa's, they don't come to India because they want to come to India they come because it's a cheap easy to get to winter sun holiday destination from europe, It wouldn't matter where they happened to be in the world as long as it had sunshine, cheap booze & satellite sports tv,,,,,,,,,,,,,

It seems there are lots of folks who travel just for this.....On the other side of the pond, many head directly south in the winter for the same thing. I could never figure why people want to go to a beach in India...there's so much to see and do all over India. I forget how accessable it is for Europeans.

artwallah · Dec 8th, 2004, 20:22

The only place I always vow not to go back to is Delhi. I always cough for weeks afterwards from the pollution! But since I have friends there, I always end up coughing anyway.

But I do have a list of places that were OK once, but I have no interest in returning to:
Mt Abu
Jaisalmer
Udaipur
Chittorgarh
Puri
Trichy
Chidambaram
Bangalore
Mangalore
Jabalpur
Panchmarhi
Kovalam (I didn't hate it at all; it just wasn't India anymore)
Varanasi

I'd almost add Mumbai, but I'm always going in and out from there and I'm beginning to like it a bit! Still haven't been to Agra or Goa and not likely to get there on my next trip.

Baldy · Dec 9th, 2004, 04:09

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Originally Posted by edsita

It seems there are lots of folks who travel just for this.....On the other side of the pond, many head directly south in the winter for the same thing. I could never figure why people want to go to a beach in India...there's so much to see and do all over India. I forget how accessable it is for Europeans.

and if it is beaches you are interested in, why India? ... there are better beaches almost anywhere ...

Baldy · Dec 9th, 2004, 04:14

... pushkar, agra, jaipur, lucknow ...

Dec 8th, 2004, 10:06	#66
bijapuri laid traps for troubadours Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Priustan Posts: 2,601	Agra, Agra Agra . . . . what 2 do??? Swearing off the place doesn't always help. I know it too well, but ended up visiting TWICE this year, as a tourist! It seems that people who haven't seen the TaJ NEED to see it,hence my son and wife on separate trips were shown the place. Still haven't found a decent place to stay . __________________ Focusing your life solely on making a buck shows a certain poverty of ambition. It asks too little of yourself. Because it's only when you hitch your wagon to something larger than yourself that you realize your true potential. Barack Obama lookit me!!!: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bijapuri/ Utube fuzzy logic: http://youtube.com/profile_videos?user=bijapuri&p =r

Dec 8th, 2004, 11:19	#67
monkgonemad Aimless Drifter, Shiftless Idler, Useless Waster Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: SoEastAsia/AsiaSubCont Posts: 416	worst of the lot tourist ventures: A. the 'great' cities of rajasthan - a bust B. fatehpur sikri - nothing special C. pune D. delhi/mumbai (but i dont know these places, so just big and full of hassles) E. agra/taj - lovely building but HIGHLY overrated. F. colva - quiet, but lack of g.h. the touts on the beach were annoying G. armitsar - (xing from paki) golden temple was cool for a look, but i slept there and i was unable to sleep. it was a real bust, should have taken a room! -------------------------------------------------------------- 1. i rather liked puskar, had 0 problems in 2 full days (but i was travelling alone and stayed outside) 2. i really like the old city of vananasi (january). new part was full of tous/hassle (go figure). 3. kujaraho was ok for me, again a cold winter (no tourists, no touts) these are touisty palces, not like sunauli, etc...

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Dec 8th, 2004, 02:23	#61
Watson You look, No Problem! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 229	I will never never never spend more than 5 minutes in Jhansi unless travel forces me to. Unfreindly, in your face and absolutely annoying place. Otherwise I'd go absolutely everywhere else except possibly Pushkar. Pushkar is overrated in my book. Love and peace

Dec 8th, 2004, 03:16	#62
Padma Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 77	Patna train station. I am yet to see Patna itself so can't comment on its possible delights but they will have to magically transport me out of the train and away from the station before I go there again. 18 Hours of hell, too sick to move out of the station and I ended up punching a guy for groping me in the ticket line Not a high point for my trip. But even that said, I did spend a few hours lying on the ground in the station people watching (and being watched) and it was quite fun. Nothing in life is without its bright side if you look hard enough.

Dec 8th, 2004, 06:37	#64
gluedtoweb Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: California USA Posts: 56	Good. At this rate tourists will diminsh throughout India. Probably too negative. Not a very great thread for beginners. May be we should start a thread "I would certainly go back again". Or Scare the hell out of everybody and let those tourist destinations realize the damage and correct some of its deficiancies.

Dec 8th, 2004, 11:34	#69
begreen9 Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Vashon, WA Posts: 22	This is an interesting thread. One's personal experiences and perspective can be very different from another's. For example, we loved Agra, but went with some simple rules - avoid all markets and let your driver know this, then relax, don't try to see to much. We went to see the Taj at sunrise, this was a great decision. The touts were minimal, crowds low and the light was magic. While in Agra we also saw Sikandra, the fort and Itimad-ud-Daulah. We took our time and soaked in the incredible history of this city. We stayed at the Howard Park which was centrally located and at a good price because they are renovating and offering good rates (about Rs 2000 for a nice room). On a different note, we had a poor time in Mt. Abu. Unforturnately, while we were there, our son was sick with the flu and municipal elections were in full swing. This was a special kind of hell. There were 4-6 jeeps with 10,000 watt PA systems strapped aboard, blaring campaigns for the competing candidates from sunup to sunset. This really ruined the town for us. However, the day we left, the campaigns stopped and all was peaceful. It was just a case of bad timing. Jaipur was probably our worst experience. I got sick due to a virus. The touts were unbelievable, and most importantly, this was our first time in a major Indian tourist city. We hadn't developed the thick skin needed to let the touts know that we just weren't interested. At one point, we rolled down the windows of our car and had no less than 6 different arms shoved in our windows with puppets, trinkets and postcards. It was awful. After Jaipur we made a vow to avoid shopping in any big tourist town and that made a big difference in future experiences. We lived in Delhi for two months and grew very fond of the city in spite of its horrendous air pollution. It helped that we lived in a great neighborhood (Defence Colony) and had a great driver. The town is very cosmopolitan, has excellent shopping and restaurants, yet it also has some great green parks and a wealth of history. After traveling for two weeks in Rajesthan, Delhi seemed incredibly organized, clean and pleasant. It all comes down to one's POV.

Dec 8th, 2004, 18:44	#71
Dino Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Murphy's Creek (Oz) Posts: 246	Sometimes an experience of a place can be tainted by how uncomfortable one is at the time.I know the Thar Desert is a beautiful and exotic location and the pages in our photo album would attest to this.But I never,ever,ever want to spend two days on a camel again.Beauty is tainted when your arse is being flayed red raw,and you willingly paid money for the torture.

Dec 8th, 2004, 20:22	#73
artwallah Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH USA Posts: 68	The only place I always vow not to go back to is Delhi. I always cough for weeks afterwards from the pollution! But since I have friends there, I always end up coughing anyway. But I do have a list of places that were OK once, but I have no interest in returning to: Mt Abu Jaisalmer Udaipur Chittorgarh Puri Trichy Chidambaram Bangalore Mangalore Jabalpur Panchmarhi Kovalam (I didn't hate it at all; it just wasn't India anymore) Varanasi I'd almost add Mumbai, but I'm always going in and out from there and I'm beginning to like it a bit! Still haven't been to Agra or Goa and not likely to get there on my next trip.

Dec 9th, 2004, 04:14	#75
Baldy gotta pee ... Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Brisbane Posts: 187	... pushkar, agra, jaipur, lucknow ...

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