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#1 Feb 3rd, 2004, 10:41
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hello,

we are now currently in agra and it's our 2nd day in india.
please tell us that there are people out there who have the same feeling about india as we do, we don't like it at all.
the cultureshock, the food, the horrible touts, hotel, ...

but we won't give up that easy. tonightwe go by sleeper to varanassi.


are we wussies or not?


tom and vanessa
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#2 Feb 3rd, 2004, 10:51
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There's plenty of people that feel as you do but... pretty much none of them hang around at this web site. Good luck.

#3 Feb 3rd, 2004, 11:23
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Tom and Vanessa:

(1) give yourself time! you already seem to have done so.

(2) in Varanassi, take a stroll along the river in the late evening and listen/smell/watch the river life
in the early morning, take a boat tour on the river (I think you do it around 6 am, correct me if I am wrong)

(3) if you still don't like India, go to Goa - I think you will meet plenty of people there who are trying to forget that they are in India

(4) last resort: last night someone mentioned a place where you can get hash very cheap, in all forms (to eat, drink and smoke).
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Agra is nasty. I don't blame you for disliking the trip right now. The touts are horrendous.

Some people never like India...but I honestly think most people come around after awhile. It might take a night stay in a very nice hotel, or a trip to a hillstation like Mussoorie or Shimla.

Take some deep breaths, do what I do and cry it all out, and do what you need to do to feel better. Hang in there!
#5 Feb 3rd, 2004, 14:16
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thanks for the relief.
it feels great to know there are ppl out there who have had the same feelings.
and as there aren't or very few backpakers here it's great to share this with you guys.

thanks for the reply's

#6 Feb 3rd, 2004, 15:08
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Smile An open mind !

When you visit India, do so with an open mind. You are then sure to like the country.
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#7 Feb 3rd, 2004, 15:50
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Delhi - Agra - Varanasi. You've chosen to meet India head-on in your first few days and discovered it's not quite like the "Incredible India" TV adverts - it's much more complex than those!

Try to slow down - you already seem to have covered a lot of ground in a few days and constant travelling does wear people down. India is neither all good or all bad, but most people find in the end that it is in many ways the most interesting country they have ever visited or are likely to visit.

We went back in 1996 after a gap of 24 years and were totally shell-shocked for a couple of days - the country had changed so much in that time. Since then we've been about 7 times and spent a couple of years there and still find more to discover and learn about India with each visit.

With a little patience I'm sure you will come through this initial culture shock.
#8 Feb 3rd, 2004, 21:47
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As we will arrive in India for the first time ever in just 27 hours, I can only give you a tip that I have learned from other places with touts:
let one of them "adopt" you and make a firm agreement with him, so he can keep the rest of them away.
It worked for us in Marocco but I do not know if it will work in India.
Another note: through a lot of reading I think that especially Agra is THE worst place to be.
#9 Feb 4th, 2004, 05:27
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Rather than rushing too much, take some time to just absorb the place a bit and get a sense of perspective - the initial impact can be overwhelming and rushing around and trying to get too much done in the sheer strangeness of India can stress you out more. I'd thoroughly recommend sitting in a chai shop for a day or so and just watching the world go by to chill out.

I still recall my first foray toward Agra from Delhi after 2 days in India, and riding my bicycle through the traffic hell that is Faridabad and thinking "I've come on holiday by mistake". After Agra it just got better and is still improving every time.

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#10 Feb 4th, 2004, 06:00
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Dealing with Agra

I was in Agra in Jan and did end up hiring an autorickshaw guide for a day. It was Rs 200 which someone on a tight, backpacker's budget might not want to pay but I thought it was worth it to have someone to fend off other touts and to give someone a bit of cash for a day.

I would also echo that Agra is not the best representation of India. I've heard Varanasi is pretty intense too. I really, really recommend going to Bharatpur which has a great bird sanctuary that is full of birds this time of year. It's only 1.5 hours from Agra by bus (buses leave all the time) and there are tons of places to stay (I liked Evergreen). You can rent a bike and just ride around the park.

I think the key to really liking India is to get out of the cities. (And this is coming from a city person.)
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My bit on Agra

Well hate to give an inaccurate account of Agra...

I was prepared for Agra to be nothing but food poisining scams and hastles, and whilst we were very cautious it was no where nearly as intense as some other places in nrth india (i.e. Dehli, Varanassi and surprisingly Pushkar)

Anyway, I know wot ur sayin but India will be intense until your senses adjust,

I think India moves for no-one so you have to learn about living in it...

I Don't think that helps, but had to say that I didn't find Agra as bad as the general say says.

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#12 Feb 4th, 2004, 15:40
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There is always the possibility that India is just not your thing.

Though lots of us had the initial feelings that you got, especially if the introduction to India was on the heavy tourist/tout areas.

Who knows how you will find Varanasi, but the following places your going to are much more tourist friendly, Ranthambhore will give you the break you need, then Jaisalmer, Jodhpur and Udaipur will show you many reasons why so many of us love India.

You could spend a bit of time with other tourists in café’s or having a beer, but then go away from the tourist areas and have a game of cricket with some Indian kids.

Don’t go to see temple after temple, you will soon become tired of temples unless you are particularly interested in them.

Sit down in a good spot and ‘people watch’, there is no country on earth where people watching if so fascinating and humorous.

If you still feel the same way after Udaipur, then India is not for you, but I have a feeling you will feel a lot more comfortable with India by then.


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