Gem Stones

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Could someone explain how gemstones could affect anyone's health/well-being. Someone I know recently spent a HUGE amount of money on getting these gemstones...but i'd like to know if they are worth anything.
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Gem Scam

I ran into this scam in Jaipur.

If your friend paid a huge amount of money for gems for health and well-being reasons, then I believe he was a victim of this scam.
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Thank you Daisy for your post. My friend got the gems from Bombay - courriered all over to Europe here. She seems to be very happy with them - she is a full time believer in things such as astrology and chakras and half the other stuff that I haven't a clue about ....

I am just curious if anyone's got knowledge about the things that these stones can do towards uplifting one's well being or is it quite like the tele-evangelist. I mean is there even an iota of scientific grounding or is it just plain balderdash? Is there a hinduism twist towards wearing gemstones?

My friend would kill me for it, but I have to say, the stones don't even look esthetically pleasing !!!
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Its not the gemstones that make one feel better, its the spending. For some people this is like a drug. In poor areas its spending on fast food. Hence, in the barrio you will find the most profitable hamburger joints! For some reason there is a correlation between unemployment and heart disease..
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Originally Posted by beesakopie View Post I mean is there even an iota of scientific grounding or is it just plain balderdash? Is there a hinduism twist towards wearing gemstones?
Astrological healing and well being is probably one of the largest and longest running cottage industry in history. Gemstones have played a big part to sustain this industry, and now there are million other things.

There is no Hinduism twist to it, it is all placebo!
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Still, its better than gorging on fast food..
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Don't worry my friend.. Your friend will not only love you more but will admire you too. Just let me know what gemstone he/she is fond of. And if she / he doesn't mind, give me her DOB and time. It's a science for those who are ready to think it over
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Ho, ho, ho..
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Originally Posted by trekky View Post Don't worry my friend.. Your friend will not only love you more but will admire you too. Just let me know what gemstone he/she is fond of. And if she / he doesn't mind, give me her DOB and time. It's a science for those who are ready to think it over
Oh hello, purdy!!!!

The quirky thing is having to put up with stringent guidelines : as in which finger it goes on to, how much gold the ring needs, when to put it on etc etc. Quite a well planned out scam, if you ask me with additional expenses at every twist.

Ah well, I suppose if you have the scientology factions here, its the astrology pundits there !!!
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No purdy, just put it in your pocket and you can feel it. Spend for the gem atleast first.
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Men have been spending on women for thousands of years. If it gets you what you want why worry? Here I watch the male black widow spider approaching the female with some offering..
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Well, your friend has already spent a heap of money on a scam. The only chance left is for her to believe in them and get the benefit of the placebo effect. So don't spoil it for her!

No, this gemstone thing is NOT a Hindu tradition like astrology. It's only targeted at gullible foreign tourists (or at least in 20 years in India I've never heard of it except in this scam context, whereas I have heard and seen hundreds of things about astrology in Hindu culture)

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I must disagree with what NIR has written on this thread regd no correlation between Hindu astrology and gemstones. What Daisy has written on the other thread sounds like a scam since no astrological chart was drawn up.

Gemstones have been prescribed by Indian (Hindu) astrologers for many years. It is not targeted at foreign tourists at all - the primary intended market is Indian, Hindu and solidly middle class / upper classes. Each gem is associated with a particular planet of the navgrahas (remember that the nine planets are not the nine of our solar system but include the sun, the moon and the invisible Rahu and Ketu)

Many Indian celebrities also believe that gemstones have a certain power over your destiny and they have been prescribed the said stone by their astrologer.

Some famous celebs in India along with their associated gemstones (and the corresponding navagraha) are-

1. Amitabh Bachhan - Blue Sapphire (neelam) - Saturn (Shani)
2. Shilpa Shetty Kundera - Green Emerald (Panna) -
3. The Indian Prime Minister Shri Narendra Modi - Pearl - Moon (Chandra)
4. HRD minister Smriti Irani - Ruby - Sun (Surya)
5. TV producer Ekta Kapoor - Yellow Sapphire (Pukhraj) - Jupiter (Brihaspati)
6. Diamond is usually substituted with White sapphire though Aishwarya Rai Bachhan is seen wearing the original. It's for planet Venus.
7. Kareena Kapoor - Coral (moonga) - Mars
8. Irrfan Khan - Gomed (Hessonite) - Rahu.
9. Cat's eye - Ketu (cant find anyone wearing this)

Further, there're many other well known combinations of which stone to be worn with what metal , etc. A pearl must be in silver, a yellow sapphire in gold, etc.

Big B records in his official blog -

" My Father’s biography and his days with the Allahabad University are full of descriptions of the time spent with Jha Saheb, as Amarnath Jha was respectfully called. His meetings on education, on life and the course of his own personal pursuits, in particular his decision to go to England to do his PhD in English Literature, all coming from Jha Saheb. And the most remarkable incident that occurred when my Father had gone to the office of Jha Saheb for his very first meeting.

Jha Saheb was not in the room and my Father was asked to wait for him at his desk. While waiting, my father noticed a few jewel stones lying on Jha Saheb’s desk and he stated playing with them when suddenly the V-C entered. In his nervousness the stones being played with, got disturbed and one such stone fell off the pile on the ground.

On noticing this Jha Saheb in his powerful and grand voice immediately blurted out to my Father :

“Pick that up Bachchan ! That is your stone !”

The stone was a blue sapphire, an astrologically very powerful stone according to Indian astrological tenets. Known to bring great profit success and wellness when worn, and also for its devastating negative effects if it does not suit your horoscope. A stone that is recommended even by the experts to be worn with great care, because of its great pro and anti qualities. It is worn as a ring on the middle finger and my Father took that stone home and wore it as a ring for the rest of his life. After his passing away we have kept it secure in the house. The incident happened in the 40′s, my Father passed away in the early 2003. Wore it so, for over 60 years every day !

I have been also recommended similar blue sapphire stone to be worn and have been wearing it from the late 90′s till date. Stones of various kinds and value and color and intensity are a common recommendation from those that study horoscopes as a scientific profession, and this recommendation and the emerald on my small finger has been given their blessings. I do not know if the effects as they say do actually work, but the sincerity with which it is given and the purity of its intent by family, coerces you to keep it on."
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I keep my grandfather's wooden folding rule. He was a journeyman carpenter. It reminds me that you can always earn an honest living. Someone confronted me at a hardware store about it. Six inches away I told him that if it was good enough for someone who earned his living at carpentry its good enough for me. He agreed.

It doesn't have to make sense though it may not count as scientific proof..
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Astrological prescriptions of gemstones is another fraud on gullible Indian public, and celebrities / rich people give it an authentic feel to the fraud, sometimes unintentionally and sometimes by design.

There are millions of product that come out in market to dupe people, and gemstones must have been the earliest entry in the list. Latest is the Hanuman mantra, it is selling like hot cake.

Had Indians put their mind in constructive creating, other than thinking of 1000 ways to dupe, it would have been a different story.

From forming fake companies to pocket subsidy meant to support manufacturing, to scam of timber growing, to chit funds and so on, Indians are there to be fooled.

The gemstone thing and other such stuff are different though, they are connected to religion, to destiny and meant to please planets and gods, so these will go on and on, people will be fooled, and they will try new things, the fraudsters will carry on with their business with full impunity and respect.

The clients will be made to feel that all the nonsense must be working, or if not, it must be the stupid clients mistake, they must have done something wrong!

Why did you turn the ring around, see, now you have completely ruined all the good effect it was to bring, you need a new one, here...

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