Gang fooling Hindi speaking people in Chennai

#16 Dec 17th, 2011, 01:38
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i have a deep believe that honest people who might be in similar situation will never beg....
No logic to that at all, I'm afraid, nor do I see anything dishonest in begging.

There are career beggars (I frequently encounter a whole family at one particular junction); there are those who do actually find it easier than getting a job and working, so prefer it; there are the old, the disabled, the mentally sick; there are the women put on the streets by their men ... and countless other situations, probably far more than I can even imagine. Only the liars and the scammers are actually dishonest
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I've had groups approach me similarly a few times and the last time it happened i offered the guy 50 rupees.. he refused that so i walked away.
meh...
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I've had this one pulled on me in Edmonton Canada several times. Usually it is a desperate beaten looking woman looking for Greyhound bus fare home to Calgary.

The one time I responded to begging was from a woman who just came up and said, "Can you buy me lunch?" I did and we chatted over it. Kind of pleasant actually.
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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post No logic to that at all, I'm afraid, nor do I see anything dishonest in begging.

There are career beggars (I frequently encounter a whole family at one particular junction); there are those who do actually find it easier than getting a job and working, so prefer it; there are the old, the disabled, the mentally sick; there are the women put on the streets by their men ... and countless other situations, probably far more than I can even imagine. Only the liars and the scammers are actually dishonest
I agree, but those are especial cases, I am talking generally... ok I will modify it:

I have deep belief that honest adult healthy men or women who might be in similar situation ( getting lost suddenly with no money ) will never beg....

so childern also are exception.. because mostly they are forced and taught begging ..

that is just to to warn people about these kind of scams .. note that they are looking for victims carefully ( strangers not local people )...
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I was approached by a single man a few years ago in Trivandrum, he said he'd lost his money and needed to get back to Palakkad and needed to telephone home to let his family know he was OK.

I thought innitially that he seemed genuine, (and who would tell a foriegner Palakkad?) and he was only asking me for something like Rs10, so I told him I'd buy him an unreserved train ticket and agreed to pay for a telephone call for him, he was so happy, the call was quick and he was very happy.

I bought the train ticket (less than Rs100) and the next train was in about 1 hour, so I bought us some breakfast, I could see he was hungry, but he kept trying to get the least amount of food, I bought a bottle of water and a Malayalam newspaper and walked to the unreserved carriage, he wrote down his address (looked genuine) and insisted I come to visit him and stay with his family, I enjoyed my conversations with him, even though his English wasn't great.

I walked away feeling good about myself, OK, there's a small chance that he got off the train and cancelled the ticket, but I doubt it.

I had previously noticed the 'family needing to get home' scam in Tirupati and Madurai, but it never felt right to me, maybe it's different in India, but I somehow feel a man would get his family into a safe place and go trying to get the money himself without dragging the family with him.
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On the other hand, my (Indian) husband once had a couple of days in Bangkok on the way back from a conference. He arrived and found to his dismay that his only ATM card wouldn't work, (it was Indian, had worked in some other countries) and he had no hard currency with him at all! Luckily another Indian nearby exiting the airport was friendly lent him some money. He was able to use the card at a hotel but he wouldn't have even been able to reach the hotel without that helpful cash.
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Originally Posted by rayal5 View Post I have deep belief that honest adult healthy men or women who might be in similar situation ( getting lost suddenly with no money ) will never beg....
That is, pretty much, what my Indian wife says. She will never give to healthy-looking men, saying they can find work ...if they want.
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Originally Posted by nayan View Post This scam is pan Indian.

The target victims vary according to the city.
Nope, International. Some one narrated a similar story happening in Brazil. I bet it happens in major tourist transit points too.
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About three years ago I was refused boarding on a BA flight Delhi to Heathrow, I'd changed the dates of my flight and had the new tickets and the receipt because it wasn't on their computer they refused to honour them and I was unceremoniously escorted out of the airport after a very heated argument. My bank had blocked my cards a couple of days earlier and I decided to leave it until I got home as I just about had enough currency to last. So there I was on the verge of a breakdown outside of IGIA without even enough rupees to cover the bus fare into Dheli when I heard a british accent, out of pure desperation I asked her if she'd exchange about 4 in coins that was all the money I had, she very kindly changed them for a rps 500 note (more than 4) enough to take a bus to connaught place pay for a dorm bed in Paharganj, phone opodo to get everything sorted and take a bus back to the airport. Which just goes to show the real danger of scams like this, it can actually happen and if everyone you approach for help thinks your scamming them because of past experiences you'd be up the creek without a paddle.
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I too have been fooled by fraud Marathi family

On 26 Feb 2015, I met a marathi family near Mayur Vihar Ph 1 metro station in Delhi. They told me they had come in Delhi for some work and the contractor who called them here is not picking phone now. They want to go back to their village which is in Washim district Maharashtra and don't have money to buy train tickets. One of the male member of family was having the red/orange Tilak on his forhead to show as a maharashtrian brahmin.

They asked my help and promised to return the money to my bank account once they reach back. I suspected they could be frauds so just offered if I buy them the train tickets, would they agree? They said yes, I took one of the Man with me to my home as I didn't have money with me. From there I gave him a bottle of milk for his infant, bought food, chapati and daal from nearby dhaba. Took all of them in an auto towards railway station. On the way, I thought of just giving them money and let them buy the ticket themselves so gave them 1000 rs and was about to get down from auto. One of the person said sir if you could help with more money we would be so greatful. At this I got alert and snatched the 1000 rs back from their hand and said now I myself will ensure you get you seated in the train. That man looked bit disappointed. At railway station I bought them 3 General tickets from Delhi to Nagpur since I had only that much money with me and told them to seek someone's help to reach from Nagpur to Washim. I took them till the platform to ensure they don't sell the ticket to someone else.

Since I didn't want my money to go in wrong hands, I took a picture of two males of that family. One person's voter id cards picture and their name.

I had 50 % assurance that these were frauds but didn't want to get blamed for being fooled so hid this fact from my family all the way.

This year, in Chhatarpur Delhi, I saw a similar marathi family roaming on the road, with male members having a red/orange Tilak and it reminded me of the incident from last year. My 50% doubt was now 100% that I was really fooled. But I am happy I didn't offer money to them, not even a single rupee. Just food, milk and train ticket.

Giving below the details of the Marathi family which I could collect.

Person - Samadhan Maroti Navghare
Father - Maroti Navghare
Address as per voter id - 167, Babhulgaon, Tehsil Vashim, Dist - Washim 444505
Photographs attached here.
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Samadhan1.jpg Samadhan2.jpg Samadhan3.jpg Samadhan4.JPG 
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I have to think if they had better options, like a decent job, they'd take that route. Begging, and involving children in it, is not fun.
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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post Whilst a particular group might have taken on this scam here in Chennai, it is international, and has been tried on me back in London numerous times. The scam breaker is actually obvious: they ask for the taxi fare to somewhere that can be cheaply and easily reached by bus.

In one Chennai instance, I was asked, by a well-dressed, English-speaking local man for a very few rupees for a bus fare. I fully believed the lost-purse story, largely because of the small amount of the request --- and the obviously-genuine gratitude with which it was received.
I don't know. i just don't know. I have now become distrustful of all such people now. While in Mumbai a couple of months back an old gent and his wife approached me and asked me in Gujju whether i could help them buy a cup of tea since they had nothing to eat since morning after they arrived by bus from Gujarat and their relative had not yet come or words to that effect.
i gave them Rs 20/- for two teas and moved on. the tea stall was alongside. After i had finished my work a short distance away and was returning back home, i happened upon the same people targeting others with the same spiel. As is my nature, i took time out and gave them a dressing down, and they slunk off.
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Hey, some of us need quite a few cups of tea!


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