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Infidel Sufi
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: styx
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Freebies, presentations and tables
Two days ago I got a call from a well know club in the city. We had won some prizes, including household crap we didn’t need and a stay at a week in a RCI affiliated property in India, Indonesia, Thailand or Srilanka (@conditions apply)
So I told the guy I was not really interested, and didn’t have an hour and a quarter to listen to a presentation, whereupon he told me that wasn’t neccessary and that we just needed to land up and collect our prizes. A time was fixed, he called again yesterday morning pushing me and so all of us went to the club yesterday en route. Where we found the guy was missing, but others said, folks, you have to see the presentation or no cigar. So I said sure, and we all went in (wife telling me we dont have an hour to spare, what are you doing), where there were a lot of people listening to a lot of spiel. So I loudly demanded to see the leader of the sales pack and gradually escalated matters like a terrorist. Sensing a noisy wolf in wolf’s clothing, they hustled us into a managerial office, where I created a bigger shindig, demanding to see his boss because he had wasted my precious time. End result. Total ten minutes detour, prize and letter authorising hotel stay received, no presentation, and wife and daughter telling me (or indicating so) that I am crazy. Me, I am content with the bowls we don’t need and the hotels we will probably never use. It’s the principle of the thing. It is also good to keep in touch with what they call core competencies. ![]()
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Maha Guru Member
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: New Delhi & Himachal Pradesh (Shimla)
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Well done Cap'n!! I never managed to escape the presentation and had to sit through 1.5 hours of utter nonsense for a voucher which i never ended up using eventually... but i did have 5-6 cups of really good coffee while i was not listening..
This was Club Mahindra btw. |
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She-who-must-be-obeyed!
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Jaisalmer
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It's the waste of time that would get to me. I think time-share holiday schemes do a bit of this sort of 'entrapment' stuff too.
They also do it in Oz as well.
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Maha Guru Member
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: New Delhi & Himachal Pradesh (Shimla)
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Plus i have not even heard good things about some of their destinations...the most recent one someone complained about was their resort in Binsar...
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newbie with some admin tools......
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: New Delhi
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I've always by-passed the presentation and gone straight for the food (or the beer). Failing that - a PDA with access to news and entertainment is always handy (just remember to turn the volume down.....although the "simpsons" theme tune half way through a bogus marketing presentation is somehow fitting)!?
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bling it on
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: perth
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has anyone seen the south park time share episode where the parents end up shooting the presenters to escape?
to make it doubly funny i was actually staying in a time share at the time. ![]() |
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Honey Bee
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Goa
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Quote:
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This is just a cameo appearance
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Chennai, India
Posts: 36,225
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Great stuff, Captain!
A friend of mine in UK did, "As an out-of-work actor, I've given these presentations, so I know the score. Just give us the prize and we'll be off". They were not pleased! |
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The Fortunate One
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Road
Posts: 6,826
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I generally ignore all these calls. Went there once a long time back with my parents, to Hilton, Barakhamba Road.
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Chennai, India
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I too always say, "Thank you, but no." half-way through their first sentence, and put the phone down.
General advice (It's amazing how many people don't seem to know this): Never offer any reason, argument or comment to someone selling something you don't want. It gives them a hook to make conversation with you. Damn it, these guys go on courses to perfect this stuff! |
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brother my cup is empty member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: yörp
Posts: 14,397
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Moreover, they'll likely have a computerized scheme in front of them going: Client says B, proceed to point D. Etc. That's what makes it near-impossible to rationally or politely end the conversation, other than to just hang up (and feeding you a guilt complex while you're at it won't be beyond them either. But, sir/ma'am, boohoo, etc.!)
(Yes, I've known telemarketeers.) btw Great li'l story, Capt., needless to say ![]()
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Bdx,FR--Kanpur
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When I was working on my teaching process out of a call centre there was another process running alongside us. Now, I have to admit I never give anyone the time of day when they call me, even if i probably should do, when it's the phone company or whatever and they plan to reduce my bills...
Anyway, I have to admit that the offer these guys were selling was pretty damn good: 3G phones with skype calls and so on, only to listed clients of a phone company, the deal was really great and those few people who weren't able to hang up quite so easily probably got the best deal ever.. sure it's a marketing thing, but sometimes, it can be worht listening. |
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Maha Guru Member
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Bavaria
Posts: 1,774
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True, you have to hang up. Otherwise they leave a nasty comment like:
Ok, if you can afford to waste your money.... ![]() |
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Naan.tering Nabob
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Abode of Glooscap
Posts: 5,881
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I just make this really annoying half-dead cat yowling noise until even the most gungho sales person becomes discouraged and/or deaf and hangs up their phone.
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Maha Guru Member
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Land that shakes and bakes.
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Did this when I was much younger and much, much poorer. I quaffed 3 complimentary drinks and got up and told Texas jokes. My bucca Brahmin bride was horrified but they paid me to leave the presentation. Ah youth..
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