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Old Apr 16th, 2008, 14:28   #61
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Old Apr 16th, 2008, 17:42   #62
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Sanna, you must be talking about Indian men who are either hardly educated or over smart, always trying to fool others Indians included.
I have never asked for their education credentials.. but guys in India who wear branded pink, green or whatever fancy shirts, and ride new motorcycles are the ones I get most crap from - and who are most persistent in neglecting my lack of response or negative response. As far as I know India is not exactly a country where you would be able to get a job which allows you to pay for these things when you are a Class V drop-out... No, these are educated guys with good jobs.

The other people that feature in the top ten a of being of most nuiscance are the (many of the) boys that go to college. Again, these people have passed Class XII exams or they would not be studying...

Smart can have many meanings, and unfortunate education has often little to do with it. I know very smart and sensible men who are barely literate, as well as very stupid and obnoxious men who have earned their PhD somewhere.

Again, I think it is a mentality thing. One of the persons who do it, two of the rest of the people who do not stand up against it, three of the persons who put part of the blame on the victim. And maybe this is far-fetched, but I tend to think that it might be related to many things. From dowry demands to lack of girl education, from double standards when it comes to boys' and girls' beaviour to the way (many) Indian sons are raised etc.
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Old Apr 16th, 2008, 18:17   #63
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The attitude of some Indian men towards foreign (or local) women is a special and specific issue.

However it is not what I am talking about primarilly.

To give an example, there is the not so uncommon occurence of some local sleazy looking idle moron leaning on some wall, maybe 30 meters away and shouting to the passing foreigner in an imperative tone: "Hey, COME HERE, I want to talk to you", or something similar - like fetching a dog...

And guess what, hard to believe, but some foreign tourists actually approach such character like the little doggies that they are, instead of shouting back "what did you say you piece of s**t", like I would do, for example...

If the types like the "dog fetcher" seem to think that their "dog fetching" will work, it's probably because there were quite a few foreign tourists who "responded well" to such type of communication.

I don't know, maybe some travellers think that it is "part of the experience" to interact with every unknown idiot who jumps out of the woodwork, wanting to shake their hand, or displaying any other type of inane, nonsensical behaviour (not even talking about the rude or disrespectful ones), but by doing so, these people create annoying precedents for the rest of us... Soon, every abusive looney around thinks that foreign tourists are little dogs to be fetched or toyed with.
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Old Apr 16th, 2008, 19:14   #64
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Back in the 1950s, in my UK boy's school, we dreamt of Scandinavian women. We knew that, when not staring in naughty films, they would be only too willing to have sex with us frustrated virgin schoolboys. O course, we never actually met any.

National stereotypes have been alive and well since forever, and I guess they will remain with us for ever, and many of them will be as wrong as they've always been.

The stereo-typical Indian boy's stereo-typical view of a stereo-typical foreigner (must I add a 'some' in all those? please consider it included ) is that they, unlike the girl they live next door to, actually have sex.

They're right. Obviously, in many (but not all) western culture, women who are old enough (and, these days, many who aren't) have taken control of their sex lives away from their families, cultures, communities.

Unfortunately, they don't compute the word control in all of that, and choice; it doesn't occur to them that sleazy, bright-green-shirt-wearing, bike-riding gits are not what foreign women are just desperate for. Sleazy green-shirt-wearing gits are to be found all over the world of course. Been there, done that (but with a blue shirt and no bike, so no wonder I didn't succeed!).

Sadly, I don't suppose any of those Scandinavian girls ever dreamt of British schoolboys, either.

Ignorance and misconceptions --- truly international concepts.
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