Another Scam to look out for !!

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There are a lot many cities/towns where such incidents happen, and it happens not only with the foreigners but with the Indians also.

One should always remain alert while venturing out of home...
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Originally Posted by Prakaant View Post There are a lot many cities/towns where such incidents happen, and it happens not only with the foreigners but with the Indians also.

One should always remain alert while venturing out of home...
This is why, anyone and everyone, who crosses their safe border, should be aware of what's happening in their surrounding. Whatever happened to listening to news on the pocket radio ? or their smart mobiles eh ?

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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post Curfew seems unbelievable --- but then a good scam always is! But curfew? Why was the taxi driver driving? Why were others getting into cabs? Why was the "travel agent" open?

My first thought that the foreign couple were quite stupid to believe it, but then I wondered if I might fall for the same thing arriving in an utterly unfamilliar place, eg China, with an addled mind after a long flight. I think I might.

Because, yes, in that situation it is not so unusual to be stupid: it is only a small step from stupified, which is the effect of long flights.
Hogwart and #stupidtouristmistakesmatter !

In a representative sample of all tourists, there will be some who should never leave their 'shires, but do, because they can afford to get on a plane.

That particular story, or the narrative is problematic. That does not negate the existence of a con ! Neither is the excuse of being tired and disoriented ! Please then don't take long flights, and if you do, ask the hotel to send a car with driver. "Oh it's expensive I'm on a $5 a day budget" don't cut it either !!!

In the 80s, I carried a small world radio; remember - No internet, no cellphone, no doodads. Cost of flights as a percentage of average hourly wages was relatively high. Less stupidity, more library reading.

In the old Palam/IGI airport (pre privatization) three-wheel autos were not allowed into the immediate pickup zone. On nearly all occasions, I used to notice tourists walking on essentially non-sidewalked exit road to pick 3 wheelers a mile out, at wee hours of the night !

If I, an elderly, can do really long flights, and be alert or have a safe game plan, them folks in the photo are young pups.


The key is, being information-aware, and basic smarts. If there is a curfew, the airport police, and officials will explicitly and repeatedly inform the paxs. Been there seen that - I mentioned it in MCC sub-forum. In Cairo, in BKK, the place was swarming with police/military/airport staff and were announcing and instructing in English + local languages.

We want to popularize the myth that all tourists "hurts" matter equally ! The Gem scams, £500 champagne bills in naughty bars, and tut-tut-walis are as valid as an old rickshawalla cycling for five miles and charging ₹50 instead of ₹30, or West Africans selling fake Gucci for $35 in side alleys of Venice

No cigar !
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don't forget the "nice helpful friend" image that Indian scammers project so successfully.

Also, what makes a difference is when people travel as couples. At that point one relies on each other. I can be alert for myself, but if someone else is there with me, my attention is diverted at critical times. If the other person's opinion is swayed for a moment, or when doubt arises, there is a mutual involvement starting which can go either way.

A friend of mine ended up on a looong bus-journey to Kashmir right after arrival in India, when the couple just wanted to stay in Delhi; she had relied on the judgement of her travel-companion.
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Every one gets scamed at some point.On holyday,on the lash,renting a place to live or even just by your employers. You have to learn by your experiences,but never think you are to street savy to get conned,a touch of paranoia ,but not to much ,people really can surprise you. I have been robbed at knife point in France,but had a left in the shower money belt returned in Cairo and a wallet I did not know I had lost given back to me on a rush hour Delhi metro.But the worst of all being when people you have known for half your life try to scam/fuck you over.
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Originally Posted by lismoresimon23 View Post Every one gets scamed at some point.On holyday,on the lash,renting a place to live or even just by your employers. You have to learn by your experiences,but never think you are to street savy to get conned,a touch of paranoia ,but not to much ,people really can surprise you. I have been robbed at knife point in France,but had a left in the shower money belt returned in Cairo and a wallet I did not know I had lost given back to me on a rush hour Delhi metro.But the worst of all being when people you have known for half your life try to scam/fuck you over.
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I emphatically disagree with his rant there, I disagree with you vehemently here.
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Originally Posted by nycank View Post This is why, anyone and everyone, who crosses their safe border, should be aware of what's happening in their surrounding.

and not just crossing the border.

completely boggles my mind that women still leave their purses wide open in a shopping cart in a store, wallets plainly visible! I know I live in white bread suburbia but REALLY?!

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Originally Posted by rahulmalik View Post Okay, so I encountered another scam/crime happen in broad day light happen unsuccessfully with my mother.

We were in bazaar waiting for the cars to pass so that we could go to the other side of the road.

While we were waiting, a group of 4 women arrived and covered us from behind. I thought even they were waiting to cross the road, but my mom realized that they were trying to open her purse and steal. luckily, she caught her red handed and no harm was done.

Something similar could happen to a traveler with a backpack so beware guys !!
Again-NOT an exclusively India problem.And lucky they were amateurs.
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Originally Posted by nycank View Post This is why, anyone and everyone, who crosses their safe border, should be aware of what's happening in their surrounding. Whatever happened to listening to news on the pocket radio ? or their smart mobiles eh ?



Hogwart and #stupidtouristmistakesmatter !

In a representative sample of all tourists, there will be some who should never leave their 'shires, but do, because they can afford to get on a plane.

That particular story, or the narrative is problematic. That does not negate the existence of a con ! Neither is the excuse of being tired and disoriented ! Please then don't take long flights, and if you do, ask the hotel to send a car with driver. "Oh it's expensive I'm on a $5 a day budget" don't cut it either !!!

In the 80s, I carried a small world radio; remember - No internet, no cellphone, no doodads. Cost of flights as a percentage of average hourly wages was relatively high. Less stupidity, more library reading.

In the old Palam/IGI airport (pre privatization) three-wheel autos were not allowed into the immediate pickup zone. On nearly all occasions, I used to notice tourists walking on essentially non-sidewalked exit road to pick 3 wheelers a mile out, at wee hours of the night !

If I, an elderly, can do really long flights, and be alert or have a safe game plan, them folks in the photo are young pups.


The key is, being information-aware, and basic smarts. If there is a curfew, the airport police, and officials will explicitly and repeatedly inform the paxs. Been there seen that - I mentioned it in MCC sub-forum. In Cairo, in BKK, the place was swarming with police/military/airport staff and were announcing and instructing in English + local languages.

We want to popularize the myth that all tourists "hurts" matter equally ! The Gem scams, £500 champagne bills in naughty bars, and tut-tut-walis are as valid as an old rickshawalla cycling for five miles and charging ₹50 instead of ₹30, or West Africans selling fake Gucci for $35 in side alleys of Venice

No cigar !
Couldn't agree more, whiners and 'their' issues.As you said,If a curfew was in force all International Airport Arrivals would be informed on flight and landing, just common sense to know that.Overcharged in first taxi in new country?,wow-really?,thats a first, that would never happen in London or NYC etc lol.Do some homework or get picked up.
I know I am pretty much reiterating what you have said but I think its important to back you up on this one, people should also ALWAYS bear in mind that India like many other developing nations have no safety nets or incredibly few to help the poorest or prejudiced people, and just the fact that you have the money to go to these countries makes you rich in their eyes and fair game.
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I'll make a bold recommendation for Clothing Arts in regard to great protective clothing in regard to pick pockets. I don't receive money from them, they get it from me. Shirt pocket buttons are another thing..
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Conman with British accent sells sob story, loots foreigners

In continuation with # 8

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NZ Man Files FIR, Dozens Report Fraud On TripAdvisor
Armed with a British accent, a certain familiarity with the boroughs and streets of London and acting skills that are more Bollywood than Broadway , a bald, middle-aged “gent“ with a prominent scar under his left eye, peddled the same sob story for three straight years to scores of foreign tourists in south Mumbai and managed to swindle thousands of rupees from each.
Mumbai police stayed clueless about the scam till two weeks ago, when Daniel de Jongh, a 28-year old teacher from New Zealand, bothered to take time out of his travel itinerary to file an FIR at Azad Maidan police station. Till then, the only place where this fraud was registered was on a TripAdvisor page titled “Tourist scam warning“ where dozens of foreign tourists have narrated, from 2013, the same tale about the conman who operates out of south Mumbai and occasionally from Goa.

The conman's story was that he was mugged the previous evening. He lost his passport, credit cards, wallet and needs help. One would think that a story as clichéd as that wouldn't sell. But it does. Rob G, from London said: “He played a very elaborate game, even phoning the British Consulate and few other numbers. The email address he had given me had a real person behind it, who warned that this guy is a scammer.“ Mekins from Madrid posted: “Somebody should alert the authorities in British Consulate, as he uses their phone.“ He is cheeky in his choice of aliases. One of them is Richard Greene, a British actor, who incidentally played the lead role in a TV series on Robinhood, an English folklore hero who stole from the rich and gave to the poor. Another one, James Watson, is the name of the famous molecular biologist who discovered the DNA structure. One of the victims has even uploaded the conman's photograph.

“Tourist scams are not new, be it a tout who covertly switches currency notes or a taxi driver who points to the `broken meter'. But this man is one step ahead of these menial tricks. He has evolved your everyday scam into a theatrical event, that lasts hours,“ said Daniel, on phone from Hong Kong. On August 16, Daniel was tricked into parting with Rs 22,000 after the conman, who was `Grenville Green' that day, played an elaborate ruse that lasted three hours.
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This one has been going on for years with reports on another site..

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