A Young Israeli Murdered

malaiKofta · Jul 16th, 2007, 21:09

OH boy...

I didnt know in which furom to post this one. but here it is- i heard on the news today that a young isreali murdered in north india (didnt say where yet) yesterday and his body was dumped to a valley or something.. from what i understand he was robbed. now his friends are guarding the body since there is a problam to evacuate him.. and that happend after he travelled for 9 months and was about to come back in 2 weeks!! sad...

I can imagine the parents in israel nodding their heads and thinking how unsfe it is to travell in india and thinking that it probably has somthing to do with drugs.

I want to be optmistic and keep thinking that India is really not a violent land in general. hopeing this case and others arent indicating any change and that this is just part of the statistics for thing like it (since it can happen anywhere in the world)

May he rest in peace

malai

Sama · Jul 16th, 2007, 21:24

mod note: since there is no news story linked to this post, moved to Chai and Chat

PeakXV · Jul 16th, 2007, 21:31

Yeah can't find a link on this sad story anywhere .... can the OP please provide a link to the story. Was it in the Himalaya?

malaiKofta · Jul 17th, 2007, 03:41

from what i understand it happen in parvati area

machadinha · Jul 17th, 2007, 03:55

From today's Jerusalem Post: Israeli hikers guarding friend's body. I'll move it back to Trouble forum where it was.

PeakXV · Jul 17th, 2007, 04:12

Parvati & Kullu seem to have a reputation for this kind of trouble. Is it possible to trek there and be totally immune from the drug scene and/or the associated supply trade that lurks close by ..... or is that all part & parcel with the territory?

vistet · Jul 17th, 2007, 04:23

"Almost 40 hours after finding Sheck, 23, stabbed and fatally wounded in northern India Sunday where the group was hiking, they were still guarding his body from Indian authorities, who wanted to conduct an autopsy."

??

robotvoice · Jul 17th, 2007, 04:43

What a sad story. My heart goes out to his family who must be devastated.

jaat · Jul 17th, 2007, 07:33

sad news it hasnt even got the attention of the exuberant electronic media here.

lotus blossom · Jul 17th, 2007, 07:45

truly a tragically sad story. and so close to going home to.

machadinha · Jul 17th, 2007, 08:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaat

sad news it hasnt even got the attention of the exuberant electronic media here.

It appeared in JP just earlier tonight their time I think. There'll probably be more tomorrow, check Google News etc.

capt_mahajan · Jul 17th, 2007, 09:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by vistet

"Almost 40 hours after finding Sheck, 23, stabbed and fatally wounded in northern India Sunday where the group was hiking, they were still guarding his body from Indian authorities, who wanted to conduct an autopsy."

??

Yes, ?? is right. It is perfectly within the Indian governments authority to do this.

This incident is indeed tragic.

But the Jerusalem posts story:

"Tourists from all over the world come to this magical place that's also known for its dangerous history. Gangs of criminals and drug dealers wander around in this isolated area and can commit a crime and disappear," Danieli said. "

me: no comment, except, then if it is known, what are these guys doing there

PeakXV · Jul 17th, 2007, 10:24

Quote:

Tourists from all over the world come to this magical place that's also known for its dangerous history. Gangs of criminals and drug dealers wander around in this isolated area and can commit a crime and disappear

I think it's a fair statement .... better to overstate it a little then understate or pooh-pooh it - where there is drug demand there will be a supply and nefarious people will gather.

Gangs plural, in this case, only meaning more than one. This isn't the first case of a person going missing or murdered under unusal circumstances in that region .... and as they say one missing or dead person is way too many.

capt_mahajan · Jul 17th, 2007, 10:30

On re-reading, my earlier post reads insensitive (which wasn't intended) and implies that these guys were there for the drugs (which was intended when I wrote it, but now seems unfair to me, too. Sorry.)

The intention was not to refute the report that gangs roam around in that area. That may very well be true; in fact a recent TV programme here in India highlighted the drug mafia's existence in that region, along with naming some of the usual suspects within the government and police forces.

PeakXV · Jul 17th, 2007, 10:42

Whether they were there for drugs or not, that region appears to breed a better than average possibility of getting involved in a real drug situation from either being in the classic wrong place at the wrong time or guilty by association with a new found trekking buddy who actually is using/dealing etc.

..... maybe it's time to clean up the neighbourhood a bit.

Jul 16th, 2007, 21:09	#1
malaiKofta Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Israel Posts: 69	A Young Israeli Murdered OH boy... I didnt know in which furom to post this one. but here it is- i heard on the news today that a young isreali murdered in north india (didnt say where yet) yesterday and his body was dumped to a valley or something.. from what i understand he was robbed. now his friends are guarding the body since there is a problam to evacuate him.. and that happend after he travelled for 9 months and was about to come back in 2 weeks!! sad... I can imagine the parents in israel nodding their heads and thinking how unsfe it is to travell in india and thinking that it probably has somthing to do with drugs. I want to be optmistic and keep thinking that India is really not a violent land in general. hopeing this case and others arent indicating any change and that this is just part of the statistics for thing like it (since it can happen anywhere in the world) May he rest in peace malai

Jul 16th, 2007, 21:24	#2
Sama a pain in the asana Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: the India inside my heart Posts: 5,354	mod note: since there is no news story linked to this post, moved to Chai and Chat __________________ *My India, 2005-2008* BE THE REVOLUTION

Jul 16th, 2007, 21:31	#3
PeakXV Naan.tering Nabob Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Abode of Glooscap Posts: 4,200	Yeah can't find a link on this sad story anywhere .... can the OP please provide a link to the story. Was it in the Himalaya? __________________ We shall not cease from exploration and at the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started ...and know the place for the first time. T.S. Eliot Don't go to India ~ Pre-trip Warnings & Misconceptions?

Jul 17th, 2007, 03:55	#5
machadinha Not Your Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: yörp Posts: 10,582	From today's Jerusalem Post: Israeli hikers guarding friend's body. I'll move it back to Trouble forum where it was. __________________ Reading tips, all picked up at IndiaMike : INDAX's A Comprehensive Guide To India / Dinoj Surendran's Desi Humor / ITHVC on Culture Shock & Travel Health / JetLag Travel Guides For the Undiscerning Traveller / India Travel Links

Jul 17th, 2007, 04:23	#7
vistet Maha Guru Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Umeå , Sweden Posts: 1,734	"Almost 40 hours after finding Sheck, 23, stabbed and fatally wounded in northern India Sunday where the group was hiking, they were still guarding his body from Indian authorities, who wanted to conduct an autopsy." ?? __________________ high road to ..

Jul 17th, 2007, 03:41	#4
malaiKofta Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Israel Posts: 69	from what i understand it happen in parvati area

Jul 17th, 2007, 04:12	#6
PeakXV Naan.tering Nabob Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Abode of Glooscap Posts: 4,200	Parvati & Kullu seem to have a reputation for this kind of trouble. Is it possible to trek there and be totally immune from the drug scene and/or the associated supply trade that lurks close by ..... or is that all part & parcel with the territory?

Jul 17th, 2007, 04:43	#8
robotvoice mikeaholic Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: california Posts: 1,163	What a sad story. My heart goes out to his family who must be devastated.

Jul 17th, 2007, 07:33	#9
jaat Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: gurgaon Posts: 118	sad news it hasnt even got the attention of the exuberant electronic media here. __________________ "There's a window that opens from one mind to another but if there's no wall,there's no need for fitting the window" (Rumi)

Jul 17th, 2007, 07:45	#10
lotus blossom re-member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: revolving around the sun standing still Posts: 1,891	truly a tragically sad story. and so close to going home to. __________________ Not all who wander are lost

Jul 17th, 2007, 10:30	#14
capt_mahajan (in charge of navel affairs) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 10,113	On re-reading, my earlier post reads insensitive (which wasn't intended) and implies that these guys were there for the drugs (which was intended when I wrote it, but now seems unfair to me, too. Sorry.) The intention was not to refute the report that gangs roam around in that area. That may very well be true; in fact a recent TV programme here in India highlighted the drug mafia's existence in that region, along with naming some of the usual suspects within the government and police forces.

Jul 17th, 2007, 10:42	#15
PeakXV Naan.tering Nabob Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Abode of Glooscap Posts: 4,200	Whether they were there for drugs or not, that region appears to breed a better than average possibility of getting involved in a real drug situation from either being in the classic wrong place at the wrong time or guilty by association with a new found trekking buddy who actually is using/dealing etc. ..... maybe it's time to clean up the neighbourhood a bit.

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