A Solution for Rickshaw Touts...

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#1 Oct 14th, 2006, 17:59
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Recently my friend and I spent a month in India and were on the receiving end of one very persistant rickshaw driver in Bangalore.

We told him we wanted to look for electronic equipment (an ipod or walkman) which he understood no problem. He then drove us to a area of shops which were clearly clothing stores. We again confirmed that we wanted walkman not clothes but he insisted we just take a look at nice clothes. My friend then held up ten 10 rupee notes. "See this?" he said. "This is all for you but I take away 10 rupees for every minute we are not at the walkman shop and what is left is all you get!" Ian then looked at his watch. Within 3 minutes we were outside a shop in MG Road.

This was so successful that we used it all the time. We knew roughly what the fares were from place to place and we would hold up a a generous fare in 10 rupee notes before we got in and explain that every diversion or mention of other shops would result in 10 rupees being taken away. Whatever was left they got to keep. You only had to take a couple of notes away and they got focused on where we wanted to go pretty smartly.

It worked for us....

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Thats a bit harsh on the poor old rickshaw driver!
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Originally Posted by Number Six Thats a bit harsh on the poor old rickshaw driver!
It seems to me It all depends on how much there is in tens , if he is good at his job and takes you directly to were you want to go ,it will give him a good fare .I have used a similar tactic ,when you know roughly how much the fare should be just offer a litle more , will you take me to wherever for x amount ,cuts out all the hassle and leaves you in control
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Yeah 'Freenote' we didn't mind giving them a little more to go where we wanted to go without the hassle and arguements. As for being hard on them 'Number Six', we tipped well for good service i.e. a safe journey and a pleasant, helpful and friendly driver. But most of these guys are experts at ripping off what is to them, wealthy westerners. So if you want to be dragged around the town to places you don't want to go, and pay for the exercise without getting a fair deal, then you can't complain about touts ripping you off.
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So if you want to be dragged around the town to places you don't want to go, and pay for the exercise without getting a fair deal
Sounds like a normal saturday afternoon with the missus to me!
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Quite right!!! Who ever said you guys don't have a sense of humour wasn't a cricket lover...
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It isn't at all hard on the driver. His job is to take you where you want to go and to charge a fair fare. I thought Bangalore autos used their meters?

And why give them tips for doing what they should have been doing....
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Thanks for the suggestion, BigDave55...I will add this tactic to the bag 'o' tricks on my next run through Delhi.

Six, you're welcome to ride shotgun along with me and pay the fare next time I need to get to IBM to get an ailing laptop fixed for business, and the driver takes me to a bunch of sari shops.
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Most of these rickshaw guys need to be given a nice arm twist to make them function in a fair manner.


Even though I am an indian myself I have been at the recieving end of few rickshaw driver's rip off trick in BANGALORE, PUNE and sometimes even my city bombay.

The rick shaw guy in BANGALORE had the fucking cheek to ask for double the fare at 11 o'clock to go to the airport from woodlands hotel and went on to argue and abuse us and even ready to manhandle ... and the bloody security guys of the hotel stood like mute spectators. That incident has left a bad impression in my mind of that city locals.

The Pune rickshaw guys are infamous to catch their prey at the station and charge by the meter and take us around town to reach the destination. Once a rick shaw guy charged Rs.50 by the meter to the OSHO ashram when the fare should have been only Rs. 20 (which I discovered later). Hence I usually fix the price of the journey before I get in.

The rick shaw guys in DELHI or bombay are no different.

HENCE IT IS BETTER TO make them reach your destination by offering a bit extra instead of they fleecing u royally and make u feel foolish
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Another option if they insist on taking you on an unscheduled shopping spree is to get in on the act with a cut on the commission. Many drivers will split the commission with you at those high priced emporiums. You can hire a taxi for the day and stop at an agreed number of emporiums and make some bucks or have your taxi fee substanially reduced. It doesn't take long either .. just go into the emporiums, take a quick look around, and ask for something they are sure not to have, say you'll come back soon for some gift shopping - ask for a business card and scram - 5 minutes max!
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My approach and my girlfriends

ME:
I actually do not mind being taken to shops. Obviously if I need to get somewhere on time arguing with the driver gets annoying, but having a tight schedule is something I try to avoid in India.

When I get to a shop that I had not asked to go to I get out. Generally someone from the shop is telling me something like "You don't have to buy, just come look!" and I say, "Are you sure? I am not going to buy anything." and they say "Sure, sure come and have a tea with us."

So I sit have a tea and let them show me things. Have a nice time, joke with them etc. Then when I am done I just say goodbye. They look shocked and get all weird and I remind them I told them when I came in I was not going to buy anything. And that is it. Nice 10-15 min diversion.

My Indian friends tell me this is extremely rude. Honestly I do not see it as much different as a driver taking you to a place you did not ask for and I am completely honest with the shop people.

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My girlfriend on the other hand is hardcore. She is a very kind hearted person but with a short temper. She simply doesn't put with the games that drivers play.

At first if the driver even begins to suggest something, she is very polite but strongly states that we do not want to go there or whatever. That NEVER stops them so they keep at it and within seconds she, in a loud and forceful voice - but not shouting, informs the driver of where we are going and where we are not going. Absolutely no 2 ways about it, no extra stops etc etc.

This always shuts the driver up completely. At times it looked to me like the driver was actually afraid of her - which is not unreasonable... She goes from being quiet and polite to really forceful and commanding very fast! I don't think they know how to react to it.

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Hmm, I think this explains something about our relationship...
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an expensive to get get where you want to. One would be better off doing some research before getting into an auto.
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fixing the rate before even getting in is the best way to deal with these guys...but some do have a knack to annoy you..so be it... just go for the collars I wud say . in Mumbai most of the rickshaw/taxi guys I have found quite OK, expect of course at the airport areas...where u have to be overly cautious in dealing with them.

with making no difference in my outlook to that city, because i hate it anyways, I usually face problems with the these guys in Pune. damn!!! they are like merciless. My sister settled there is like alext's girlfriend....quite justifiably rude. Before starting the day in the city she kinda decides not to argue with any damn driver but eventually at the end she is up with different story of being asked for more money.... naah!! in 10/10 of such occasions the drivers are on the receiving ends . One funny thing these drivers try is like "Ok forget it. I do not want your money." just trying to embarrasss the passenger and get the asked money from the passenger......so she just walks out but then the drivers leave the auto and come running behind her and without any further complaint accept the money SHE had decided. poor fella!


and yet another way is...even if u go by the meter keep looking at it that its running during ur trip to your destination...at times at the end they just look at the metter and say "Oh no! the meter is not working. heck! Ok give me 60Rs"
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And why give them tips for doing what they should have been doing....
and this is one thing i never want to do....TIPS... be it for the rickshaw/taxi drivers or to the waiters in the restaurants...why tip??? i do not understand.......well they are doing their JOB and NOT serving you out of gratitude.. well of course gratitude cannot be bot for any price but still I fail to understand the concept of tip. I never do that...quite shamelessly I just walk out and I do not care what the waiters or my accompanying friends think of me! and if I pay by card no worries at all

but yes in Delhi i usualy found myself giving some extra bucks to those cycle rickshaws...come on...giving him 5/10 Rs for such a grueling ride in that heat is like being very unemphatic!! tho of course some of them are even more merciless than those found in Pune.
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