A cautionary tale about shipping a sitar from India

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Beautifully put.

First reading, i thought "WTF?" (I'm a bit slow on the uptake, often). Second reading, I giggled.

Now
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Originally Posted by abracax View Post 2) Sit down, calmly accept your losses and get one of the locals to help you draft a message detailing what can be done with the sitar (references to female relatives may be appropriate).
; Few things in world are universal, love, greed.... and the use of female relatives to vent out frustrations
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and the use of female relatives to vent out frustrations
In the countryside this has a very sharp, nasty reality..
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Fuller... heat of the moment is fine...saying sorry doesnt help you get your guitar, as for the 1.2 bn people I refered to not even 0.001% would have read your mail, let alone be feel offended, so sorry and all is fine if it makes you feel better

To my mind paying those @#$%& in Delhi more money will not help :

My suggestion is you call DHL 022-30300345 and ask them to pick it up from Delhi and courier it to you - my office which uses a lot of DHL service informs me that for around 10 kgs (will vary on volume also) cost would be around INR 12,000... the question is whether this guy will handover the sitar to the DHL reps who go for the pick-up....now this is very difficult for me to say
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Actually after re-reading your post the Rs 5500 the guy asked for is really less -atleast as compared to the DHL rates; so may be he actually underestimated the cost - do you have anyone in Delhi who can get hold of you Sitar and may be the money. Call this guy and tell him that you will have someone come and pick-up the Sitar and the money and he can deduct may be Rs 500 for his services and see what his reaction is...
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Originally Posted by SomPan View Post Fuller... heat of the moment is fine...saying sorry doesnt help you get your guitar, as for the 1.2 bn people I refered to not even 0.001% would have read your mail, let alone be feel offended, so sorry and all is fine if it makes you feel better

To my mind paying those @#$%& in Delhi more money will not help :

My suggestion is you call DHL 022-30300345 and ask them to pick it up from Delhi and courier it to you - my office which uses a lot of DHL service informs me that for around 10 kgs (will vary on volume also) cost would be around INR 12,000... the question is whether this guy will handover the sitar to the DHL reps who go for the pick-up....now this is very difficult for me to say
This 12,000 would be for shipping to the United States? This may be the best strategy at this point if so.
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I'm beginning to see the main problem here....
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Originally Posted by abracax View Post I'm beginning to see the main problem here....
Is it something along the lines of "the OP is a damn moron"?

Anyway, they got back to me finally. Gave me info on who to send the money to via Western Union. At this point I'm inclined to send it, but I have a sinking feeling that I'm just adding to my losses. I'd love to be proved wrong on this. I'd like to believe that a parcel business operating openly less than half a km from the main train station in Delhi wouldn't just keep a parcel and 8000 rs in shipping fees and send a traveler on his merry way, but it's hard to be confident.
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Originally Posted by JFullerUCSB View Post Is it something along the lines of "the OP is a damn moron"?

Anyway, they got back to me finally. Gave me info on who to send the money to via Western Union. At this point I'm inclined to send it, but I have a sinking feeling that I'm just adding to my losses. I'd love to be proved wrong on this. I'd like to believe that a parcel business operating openly less than half a km from the main train station in Delhi wouldn't just keep a parcel and 8000 rs in shipping fees and send a traveler on his merry way, but it's hard to be confident.
Contrary to the other currently running sitar saga on the site for some reason I believe this might actually turn out right. For starters, they know you're still in India and could potentially come back to them. They haven't broken off contact. Did you ask them if they would agree to refund your merchandise and (most of) the cash if someone comes to pick it up? Only red flag is western union, that's a big no-no. Ask them their bank account number and other data. You can walk into any bank of that branch and deposit the money straight into their account. If they refuse the pick-up proposition or keep insisting on western union, walk away.
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Originally Posted by JFullerUCSB View Post Is it something along the lines of "the OP is a damn moron"?
Sad but true, but I really hope things work out for you.
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Well you have not shared the name of the parcel service despite many requests so it is difficult to say - are they agents of Bluedart, DHL etc or are they small couriers. If they have so much money of yours, why dont you ask them to ship it to you in Mumbai and return the balance to you - that will test their honesty
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The name of the company is All Trade Around. Their address is
511, Mantola, Pahar Ganj, New Delhi-110055,
India

Their office number is +91 11-23580976. The people I've dealt with are named Man Mohini and Swati Goel.

I wrote back asking for a bank account #. I need to make some progress on this today or things will get a whole lot more difficult.
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It seems they are not official agents for any courier service or even India Post - I may be wrong but doesnt seem so. The only silver lining is atleast they are talking to you. All the best.
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Wow, what a mess. The whole transaction with them is kind of a blur. I was already starting to feel sick at that point, and I really wanted to get that sitar shipped, since lugging it through India was a huge pain. When I saw a sign advertising "Parcel Service" on the street, I just assumed they were a legitimate business. Can't believe I let this happen. I've avoided so many attempts to cheat me in the past, and now I possibly just walked right into one.

I'll be calling them soon. If I can't get legitimate bank info today, it may be impossible to do this while I'm still in India.

If I try to pursue the courier service option, is it possible to do that from outside of India? I'll be in a place with wifi, and I have skype, so I could talk to a representative if needed, and I have access to Visa/Mastercard, paypal, etc.
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Wiring money in from abroad is not an issue. Did you ask them if someone could just come and pick it up + get your cash back? How did they respond? Not that this is a viable option here but if they answer 'yes, sure', it might indicate that they're acting in good faith.

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