Foreign owned property in Goa, (Part One)

Nick-H · Oct 18th, 2006, 17:08

Hello Gerard, welcome to IndiaMike.

Now...

Oh! Just read posts 1 to 670 in this thread!

Maybe you discovered this site just in time

gerard fisher · Oct 18th, 2006, 17:14

Hi Nick.

Thanks For Reply, You No What The Say. The Luck Of The Irish.

Good Luck
Gerard

snowcrab · Oct 18th, 2006, 22:52

Makes a person want to cry it does. Unless Gerard is a Goa land tout? Or a troll?

gerard fisher · Oct 18th, 2006, 23:24

hi snowcap.

a troll? was just looking for some sunhine. but now going closer to home after reading all the comments .
all the best
gerard..

dzibead · Oct 18th, 2006, 23:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick-H

Just read posts 1 to 670 in this thread!

And when you've finished doing that, there'll be a quiz.

Nick-H · Oct 18th, 2006, 23:38

Gerard, come to India for the Sunshine: you'll love it.

But forget the property!

If someone is seriously pushing Goan property in your home town, you might want to point a local journalist at this thread and the company doing the pushing....

GoanCanuck · Oct 19th, 2006, 13:23

An important update.

HC restricts construction in CRZ area

Press Trust Of India / Mumbai/ Panaji October 19, 2006

The Goa bench of the Bombay High Court has directed the authorities not to grant new licences for any construction in the coastal regulation zone (CRZ) in the state.

The direction was given on Monday by a bench comprising Justice R M S Khandeparkar and Justice N A Britto on a petition filed by a North Goa organisation seeking restriction on new constructions to protect the environment in coastal areas.

The court said the order would remain in force till a survey and an inquiry is completed into the number of dwelling units and other constructions existing in the CRZ as on February 19, 1991 and the increase in their number thereafter.

It also asked the state authorities to identify open plots in the CRZ for building hotels and to frame appropriate policy for their use before allowing future projects.

malcolmgrundy · Oct 19th, 2006, 14:22

Hi all hope we can be of some help myself and my wife arrived last week hoping to settle here. And may have a few tips for anyone coming over.We have been to see homes and estates in parra and they are still saying you can open a company buy a house and rent it to yourself from the company sounds very dodgy to me at the moment so we are using our time for the next 4 months just finding things out.Then next financial year register for our 183 days for residency visa.If your looking to rent cheapest way is to ask a taxi driver they all know someone and your rent should be about 6000 rupee one bed furnished, 5000 unfurnished. 2 bed apartment 8-9000 furnished 7000 unfurnished if you go to estate agents you will be charged almost double this and also charged 15% estate agent fees on top much better to give your driver a one off tip for his help although ours dos,nt ask for it. Government taxi from airport 635 rupee at the moment and exchange rate today is 83.4 to the pound but normally drops during tourist season which is just starting.We will check this site every week so any questions please ask and we will try to help if time allows.We still love this place and will stay whatever it takes.

Nick-H · Oct 19th, 2006, 15:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by malcolmgrundy

Then next financial year register for our 183 days for residency visa.

There is no such thing, I'm afraid. You will not get a resident's permit on a tourist visa, and you will not get a longer-term visa without whatever they are now considering very good reason (read previous posts in this thread)

Quote:

If your looking to rent cheapest way is to ask a taxi driver they all know someone and your rent should be about 6000 rupee one bed furnished, 5000 unfurnished. 2 bed apartment 8-9000 furnished 7000 unfurnished if you go to estate agents you will be charged almost double this and also charged 15% estate agent fees on top

Good Grief that's expensive! I thought one of the attractions of Goa was cheapness (Have to confess my idea of cheap/expensive comes from living in Chennai not Europe).

Hate to be negative, but from the spirit of your post I do wondre if you are up to date on the news

Have a good trip. I hope you can make something work out for you.

snowcrab · Oct 19th, 2006, 17:51

The rents are about what I found when I was there.

No, Goa is not cheap compared to other places in India. I won't stay there for an extended period again.

For a Canadian the shelter costs were about 50% of what I would pay at home.I found most other prices to be 75% to 80% of Canadian prices.Some things especially Chinese imports like watches and jewelry were more expensive than stuff I could buy at home (or at least the original asking price was). I guess things are really expensive in England and these prices look good in comparison. The only really good deal in Goa is booze and pharmacuticals like viagra. Unbelievably cheap. There is a bar, booze shop or chemist every twenty feet or so it seemed at times.

And lots of big signs all over the place and land touts approaching you to try to sell you land. It was obvious enough for me to wish I had some of that famous swamp land in Florida left to trade them for it.

goangoangone · Oct 20th, 2006, 01:37

Rents are about right. You won't get Residential Permit unless you have longer then a Tourist Visa. My wife and I last had 1 year X visas and Residential Permits. She has today been granted a 6 month Tourist Visa.

luca · Oct 20th, 2006, 03:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoanCanuck

An important update.

HC restricts construction in CRZ area

Press Trust Of India / Mumbai/ Panaji October 19, 2006

The Goa bench of the Bombay High Court has directed the authorities not to grant new licences for any construction in the coastal regulation zone (CRZ) in the state.

The direction was given on Monday by a bench comprising Justice R M S Khandeparkar and Justice N A Britto on a petition filed by a North Goa organisation seeking restriction on new constructions to protect the environment in coastal areas.

The court said the order would remain in force till a survey and an inquiry is completed into the number of dwelling units and other constructions existing in the CRZ as on February 19, 1991 and the increase in their number thereafter.

It also asked the state authorities to identify open plots in the CRZ for building hotels and to frame appropriate policy for their use before allowing future projects.

That particular Goan organisation is the Goa Foundation- well known by most of the locals in Goa for its corruption. This will only mean better bribes for their organisation which specialises in blackmailing erring hoteliers and locals alike. However, foreigners are safe from their clutches as they have a reputation amongst their donors(who happen to be green organisations the world over) of being very pro active. If only these donors knew!

luca · Oct 20th, 2006, 03:32

Goa Foundation also happens to be very anti tourist and have in the past thrown cow dung at charter flight tourists who came in expecting a very friendly welcome. They have been known to have objected to a hotel on the Baga sand dunes called 'La Calypsa' which was being built by a British lady and her Goan boyfriend who refused any sort of underhand payment. The Lower courts took 5 years before passing it on to the high court who then took another 4 years to decide it was after all legal (what about justice delayed being justice denied). Goa Foundation had lost the case, but the couple had gone bankrupt and were forced to sell. Similar case abound! However, corruption is forced upon the people by illogical laws. The argument of Goa Foundation being that the environs around hotels are destroyed and that tourism puts an undue burden on the local populace. Also. it taxes water resources etc.

crvlvr · Oct 20th, 2006, 05:00

Luca, are you against the environment being protected, especially in India? The Goa Foundationby itself has no authority. It is a non-profit public watchdog that uses India's legal/judiciary system to help protect the environment. And if they don't do it, someone else will.

1. You accuse Goa Foundation of being corrupt. How can a non-profit organization that has not accepted funds from private sources be "corrupt" . What is the corruption that you accudse them of? Taking bribes so as to not file court cases? Anyone can file a court case in India. As for this couple, they would have been compensated for their court costs if they won the case.

2. You accuse Goa Foundation of being anti-tourist. Some googling will reveal that they have also filed a number of cases against the indian corporations.

I have no connection with the Goa Foundation. I had never heard of them till you mentioned their name. I am beginning to think that your allegations are baseless and your argument inconsistent.

GoanCanuck · Oct 20th, 2006, 06:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by luca

That particular Goan organisation is the Goa Foundation- well known by most of the locals in Goa for its corruption. This will only mean better bribes for their organisation which specialises in blackmailing erring hoteliers and locals alike.

Luca, you sound like a person who has an axe to grind with the Goa Foundation. On one hand you say that this organization is only against the locals and in the same breath you accuse this same organization of filing a court case against a Britisher who wanted to open a hotel!

At least try to be consistent. As it is you had said that you did not want to post any more in this thread but here you are again! Did you come back just to show your hatred for the Goa Foundation?

Oct 18th, 2006, 17:14	#692
gerard fisher Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: ireland Posts: 3	Buying In Goa Hi Nick. Thanks For Reply, You No What The Say. The Luck Of The Irish. Good Luck Gerard

Oct 19th, 2006, 14:22	#698
malcolmgrundy Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: india Posts: 31	just arrived goa Hi all hope we can be of some help myself and my wife arrived last week hoping to settle here. And may have a few tips for anyone coming over.We have been to see homes and estates in parra and they are still saying you can open a company buy a house and rent it to yourself from the company sounds very dodgy to me at the moment so we are using our time for the next 4 months just finding things out.Then next financial year register for our 183 days for residency visa.If your looking to rent cheapest way is to ask a taxi driver they all know someone and your rent should be about 6000 rupee one bed furnished, 5000 unfurnished. 2 bed apartment 8-9000 furnished 7000 unfurnished if you go to estate agents you will be charged almost double this and also charged 15% estate agent fees on top much better to give your driver a one off tip for his help although ours dos,nt ask for it. Government taxi from airport 635 rupee at the moment and exchange rate today is 83.4 to the pound but normally drops during tourist season which is just starting.We will check this site every week so any questions please ask and we will try to help if time allows.We still love this place and will stay whatever it takes.

Oct 20th, 2006, 01:37	#701
goangoangone What happened? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Goa Posts: 1,953	Rents are about right. You won't get Residential Permit unless you have longer then a Tourist Visa. My wife and I last had 1 year X visas and Residential Permits. She has today been granted a 6 month Tourist Visa. __________________ GoanGoan......here

Oct 20th, 2006, 05:00	#704
crvlvr Guru Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Hollywood Posts: 4,667	Luca, are you against the environment being protected, especially in India? The Goa Foundationby itself has no authority. It is a non-profit public watchdog that uses India's legal/judiciary system to help protect the environment. And if they don't do it, someone else will. 1. You accuse Goa Foundation of being corrupt. How can a non-profit organization that has not accepted funds from private sources be "corrupt" . What is the corruption that you accudse them of? Taking bribes so as to not file court cases? Anyone can file a court case in India. As for this couple, they would have been compensated for their court costs if they won the case. 2. You accuse Goa Foundation of being anti-tourist. Some googling will reveal that they have also filed a number of cases against the indian corporations. I have no connection with the Goa Foundation. I had never heard of them till you mentioned their name. I am beginning to think that your allegations are baseless and your argument inconsistent. Last edited by crvlvr : Oct 20th, 2006 at 06:48.

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Oct 18th, 2006, 17:08	#691
Nick-H This is just a cameo appearance Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 36,203	Hello Gerard, welcome to IndiaMike. Now... Oh! Just read posts 1 to 670 in this thread! Maybe you discovered this site just in time

Oct 18th, 2006, 22:52	#693
snowcrab Maha Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: BC Can Posts: 1,134	Makes a person want to cry it does. Unless Gerard is a Goa land tout? Or a troll?

Oct 18th, 2006, 23:24	#694
gerard fisher Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: ireland Posts: 3	hi snowcap. a troll? was just looking for some sunhine. but now going closer to home after reading all the comments . all the best gerard..

Oct 18th, 2006, 23:38	#696
Nick-H This is just a cameo appearance Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 36,203	Gerard, come to India for the Sunshine: you'll love it. But forget the property! If someone is seriously pushing Goan property in your home town, you might want to point a local journalist at this thread and the company doing the pushing....

Oct 19th, 2006, 13:23	#697
GoanCanuck Maha Guru Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 3,398	An important update. HC restricts construction in CRZ area Press Trust Of India / Mumbai/ Panaji October 19, 2006 The Goa bench of the Bombay High Court has directed the authorities not to grant new licences for any construction in the coastal regulation zone (CRZ) in the state. The direction was given on Monday by a bench comprising Justice R M S Khandeparkar and Justice N A Britto on a petition filed by a North Goa organisation seeking restriction on new constructions to protect the environment in coastal areas. The court said the order would remain in force till a survey and an inquiry is completed into the number of dwelling units and other constructions existing in the CRZ as on February 19, 1991 and the increase in their number thereafter. It also asked the state authorities to identify open plots in the CRZ for building hotels and to frame appropriate policy for their use before allowing future projects.

Oct 19th, 2006, 17:51	#700
snowcrab Maha Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: BC Can Posts: 1,134	The rents are about what I found when I was there. No, Goa is not cheap compared to other places in India. I won't stay there for an extended period again. For a Canadian the shelter costs were about 50% of what I would pay at home.I found most other prices to be 75% to 80% of Canadian prices.Some things especially Chinese imports like watches and jewelry were more expensive than stuff I could buy at home (or at least the original asking price was). I guess things are really expensive in England and these prices look good in comparison. The only really good deal in Goa is booze and pharmacuticals like viagra. Unbelievably cheap. There is a bar, booze shop or chemist every twenty feet or so it seemed at times. And lots of big signs all over the place and land touts approaching you to try to sell you land. It was obvious enough for me to wish I had some of that famous swamp land in Florida left to trade them for it.

Oct 20th, 2006, 03:32	#703
luca Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: uk Posts: 52	Goa Foundation also happens to be very anti tourist and have in the past thrown cow dung at charter flight tourists who came in expecting a very friendly welcome. They have been known to have objected to a hotel on the Baga sand dunes called 'La Calypsa' which was being built by a British lady and her Goan boyfriend who refused any sort of underhand payment. The Lower courts took 5 years before passing it on to the high court who then took another 4 years to decide it was after all legal (what about justice delayed being justice denied). Goa Foundation had lost the case, but the couple had gone bankrupt and were forced to sell. Similar case abound! However, corruption is forced upon the people by illogical laws. The argument of Goa Foundation being that the environs around hotels are destroyed and that tourism puts an undue burden on the local populace. Also. it taxes water resources etc.

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