Foreign owned property in Goa, (Part One)

Shaktipalooza · Aug 26th, 2006, 05:14

Ironic that Goa, whose beautiful and cultural uniqueness within India is due in no small part to centuries of foreign influences, is now putting on an unfriendly posture towards outsiders. It's pretty rare that you'll find a community lamenting an influx of money. Most communities take great pains in promoting tourism.

I do plan on buying property in India, maybe even Goa. And yes, I will be dotting my i's and crossing my t's every step of the way. Like you said, we're still entitled to our own opinions.

GoanCanuck · Aug 26th, 2006, 08:09

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Originally Posted by crvlvr

And in Goa, the local's opinion counts more than a tourist's. Why? Because they vote for the politicians who make the laws. It would be in prudent for tourists, especially those who intend on staying/investing in Goa, to be sensitive to these opinions, rather than dismissing them as "daft" or "xenophobic".

Very well said. Doesn't matter which part of India a foreign national is planning to invest in, the local opinion/views in that state always carries weight. Why should Goans be called "daft"? Nobody calls the people of Himachal Pradesh "daft" even though the regulations for buying land in Himachal Pradesh are far more stricter from the point of view of foreign nationals.

GoanCanuck · Aug 26th, 2006, 14:38

Pretty good analysis of the current situation in Goa,
http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanhe...3102006819.asp

moksha1 · Aug 26th, 2006, 19:10

To repeat; what was "daft" about the oHeraldo letter was the assertion that "beautiful Goan houses are being bought by foreigners and turned into dens of vice".

Concerning the relationship between the local electorate and politicians, legislation concerning the purchase of immovable property is a matter for the government at the Centre, and not primarily within local jurisdiction. Also, FEMA comes within the remit of civil law where the government must bring prosecution, and not within criminal law as was the case with FERA which FEMA replaced.

Having differing opinions and arguing their validity is called a debate.

Local politicians use family and business networks to become elected.They make often very small promises to villagers (a new sluice drain, access road, street light). In the main, they are financed by vested commercial interests (legal, and mafia)and , as such, they cannot act in the interest of the common good but are bound to act out of self interest and the interest of their financiers.

Does anyone remember the campaign trail of a Bardez MLA a number of years ago? Making pronouncements from his open topped jeep, vodka and coke in hand, his bankrollers by his side ( a prominent business family with a finger in most pies)he toured the costituency making ever wilder promises.This scoundrel has since presided over much of the environmental despoilation of the area; development without infrastructure.

Nick-H · Aug 26th, 2006, 19:37

(In Goancanuck's latest link... how on earth did they come up with the realtively obscure word whetted when I guess they meant vetted?)

GoanCanuck · Aug 27th, 2006, 13:28

A good analysis of FEMA by a Goan lawyer http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles...tory_ID=082158

Nick-H · Aug 27th, 2006, 14:46

It seems to me to more a review of how, in his opinion, the law and its implementation should be changed?

But if he had written it in English I might have understood

Ironic that he thinks that changes to the RBI regulations should be, "[in] language should be clear, simple..."

dzibead · Aug 27th, 2006, 14:59

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Originally Posted by GoanCanuck

A good analysis of FEMA by a Goan lawyer http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles...tory_ID=082158

This quote from the article convinces me that someone's been poring over this very thread

:

"Study of some suggestions and advices supposed to be circulating on the internet websites on the subject of purchase of properties in Goa, may also afford some pointers to the investigators about the general modus operandi or loose ends in this gray area."

dzibead · Aug 27th, 2006, 15:01

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Originally Posted by Nick-H

But if he had written it in English I might have understood

Yeah, somebody needs to give him a copy of the book "Plain English for Lawyers" - a real book, by the way, and you can see why there's a need for it.

goangoangone · Aug 28th, 2006, 10:08

Decent of him to summarise what we've been saying.

dzibead · Aug 28th, 2006, 10:20

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Originally Posted by goangoangone

Decent of him to summarise what we've been saying.

sirensongs · Aug 28th, 2006, 15:38

...and to get paid for it and get print credit, as well.

Quote:

(In Goancanuck's latest link... how on earth did they come up with the realtively obscure word whetted when I guess they meant vetted?)

Same way they run (on a daily basis) missing persons ads describing them as having "Shallow" complexion when they must mean "Sallow." One of those words that has come to be, through repeated misuse in high places, accepted as meaning something completely unrelated....

Also remember, lots of folks don't understand the difference between a "V" and a "W." So Whetted and Vetted would effectively become the same word.

If anyone knows why a billboard or signboard became known as a "hoarding," please let me know. (What is it hoarding or keeping to itself?) Okay, back on topic....

Nick-H · Aug 28th, 2006, 16:41

but hoarding is ordinary English English usage --- one of the many quirks of our peculiar language!

I have a theory that this V and W business is some sort of affectation. But my expertise as a linguist is famous ---for its absence

(What do you mean, back on topic? )

luca · Aug 31st, 2006, 19:31

http://www.namasthenri.com/excontrol/chapt15.htm

This is the first website that i know of that actually has info on buying and owning land (by a foreigner). Take a look at Q 4 and Q 5.

Nick-H · Aug 31st, 2006, 19:54

Correct me if I'm wrong but...

That link refers to FERA 1973.

The current legislation is Foreign Exchange Management Act, 1999

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Shaktipalooza Maha Guru Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 910	Ironic that Goa, whose beautiful and cultural uniqueness within India is due in no small part to centuries of foreign influences, is now putting on an unfriendly posture towards outsiders. It's pretty rare that you'll find a community lamenting an influx of money. Most communities take great pains in promoting tourism. I do plan on buying property in India, maybe even Goa. And yes, I will be dotting my i's and crossing my t's every step of the way. Like you said, we're still entitled to our own opinions. __________________ Pics from India 2006 Traditional Indian Dance

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