Which way is it going?

amyl · Nov 10th, 2006, 23:05

Ok..it just struck to me and I got into this kind of quiz to guess the direction in which the train is moving in this foto taken by Bhaswaran.

Can any one guess the direction and justify it???

Am only guessing that its going to the left....no justification i cud give. Some photo-intelligent ppl here might just spot some clue to guess the right direction

PS Bhaswaran, it wud be nice to see ppl guessing for sometime before you cud tell the answer...

punchinello · Nov 11th, 2006, 17:23

Think about how a shutter opens (assuming the camera uses a mechanical shutter). Apart from that, I can't think of any other way of telling. And I can't tell from that anyway. I'd be interested to know.

punchinello · Nov 11th, 2006, 17:24

Or light differences of the timings of the light getting to the film plane?

amyl · Nov 11th, 2006, 18:39

Lucky, I thot the same initially

BUT the right part of the train wud be moving as fast as in the other direction......and that wud also make it blurry.....and fading in the same level and manner as we see in the current pic. Had we got that side board at the top a little on the right side we cud have guessed it since it wud have left a nice trail of fading in the back or in the front

this pic has been intriguing me....

Well its just possible that its impossible to tell the direction from the pic... unless Mr B tells the story. But lets us ask him to keep mum while we try work out some justification

as of now am drained of any clues.

amyl · Nov 11th, 2006, 18:43

Punch, nope...I can not think of anything with timings...

the unknown remains!

TimMakins · Nov 11th, 2006, 18:55

Most people would take a photo of the train by pointing the camera at where it WILL be when it gets to you, not where it HAS been. Therefore, in this picture it is going from left to right.

Of course it is possible that after the train has passed the photographer, he will swing round and capture a shot as the train goes away from him, but I think the first option is more likely.

Tim in England

cyberhippie · Nov 11th, 2006, 18:55

If I'm not Mistaken that is the Delhi-Bubaneshwar Rajdhani........Heading for Delhi!!

capt_mahajan · Nov 11th, 2006, 19:18

In that case, if another train leaves Delhi at 40 km an hour at the same time as this leaves Bhubaneshwar at 45 km an hour, then when is lunch?

rab · Nov 11th, 2006, 19:28

Lunch is in the resturant car which is the second coach from the left of the picture which is always to the rear of the first class coach in the foreground so the train is moving from left to right on its way to New Delhi.

rab

rab · Nov 11th, 2006, 19:48

Actually I made that up.

One thing to notice though is that there is sunlight shining on the right side of the concrete sleepers in the bottom right of the photo. That means the train is travelling with the sun on the far side or the right side of the photo.

If this is the morning then the train is travelling west, northwest or north. If it is evening it is travelling east, southeast or south. Or, it is going the other way.

Consulting the timetable to see when the train passes Balanagar-Dankuni will reveal which way it is moving.

My guess is that this is train number 2301 which leaves Howrah at 16:55 therefore it's the evening train travelling north. Therefore it is going right to left in the photo.

Easy!

machadinha · Nov 11th, 2006, 21:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by rab

Actually I made that up.

You had me convinced

My first instinct was to the right but it's one of those things where the more you keep looking... there goes another night's sleep no doubt.

amyl · Nov 14th, 2006, 16:35

I lost my previous post!!!!!

was the site hacked or something?? got a really unusual message...

praks · Nov 14th, 2006, 17:02

The train is moving from left to right, i.e. the photographer took the picture as the train was coming towards him. In India, in a corridor comprising two tracks, trains run on the left track. Seeing the electric pylons behind the train, as well as the trees, it is obvious that there are only two tracks where this picture was taken and the train is travelling on the right track, towards the photographer. One can see part of the empty track on the left on which the train going away from the photographer would have travelled.

mr pastry · Nov 14th, 2006, 17:04

My guess is left to right. I seem to remember the trains in India run on the same side as the UK, so would pass right hand side to right hand side.

I hope the photographer also carried a mirror to see behind him, as he appears to be standing in the middle of the tracks! Even with the amount of hooting that goes on on Indian Railways I wouldn't have thought it a good idea to be where he is.

machadinha · Nov 14th, 2006, 23:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by amyl

I lost my previous post!!!!!

was the site hacked or something?? got a really unusual message...

From main page:

Quote:

Site Crash
Last night around 10:30pm or so, the server IndiaMike was being hosted on had a massive hardware failure. The hosting company had to restore the data from backup, so we lost a day of posts and photos. We were back in business at about 6:30am, although we're still experiencing intermittent issues that I'm working through with the ISP. I apologize for the inconvenience. Hopefully, this won't happen again.

I'm hoping that Pushkar Fair picture poster will repost them, fantastic stuff.

Nov 10th, 2006, 23:05	#1
amyl 21st Century Freak Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Singapura.......in Babenhausen, DE for a while Posts: 1,850	Which way is it going? Ok..it just struck to me and I got into this kind of quiz to guess the direction in which the train is moving in this foto taken by Bhaswaran. Can any one guess the direction and justify it??? Am only guessing that its going to the left....no justification i cud give. Some photo-intelligent ppl here might just spot some clue to guess the right direction PS Bhaswaran, it wud be nice to see ppl guessing for sometime before you cud tell the answer... __________________ a'mar kono chinta nei

Nov 11th, 2006, 18:55	#6
TimMakins Surprised and Delighted by Life Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: On the road... Posts: 962	Most people would take a photo of the train by pointing the camera at where it WILL be when it gets to you, not where it HAS been. Therefore, in this picture it is going from left to right. Of course it is possible that after the train has passed the photographer, he will swing round and capture a shot as the train goes away from him, but I think the first option is more likely. Tim in England __________________ Travelling Tim - http://www.mapability.com/blogs/ "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." Mark Twain

Nov 11th, 2006, 19:28	#9
rab Honorary Mod Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: McLaren Vale, South Australia Posts: 1,216	Lunch is in the resturant car which is the second coach from the left of the picture which is always to the rear of the first class coach in the foreground so the train is moving from left to right on its way to New Delhi. rab __________________ IndiaMike Mod Team (The Honorary One)

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Nov 11th, 2006, 17:23	#2
punchinello Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 138	Think about how a shutter opens (assuming the camera uses a mechanical shutter). Apart from that, I can't think of any other way of telling. And I can't tell from that anyway. I'd be interested to know.

Nov 11th, 2006, 17:24	#3
punchinello Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 138	Or light differences of the timings of the light getting to the film plane?

Nov 11th, 2006, 18:39	#4
amyl 21st Century Freak Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Singapura.......in Babenhausen, DE for a while Posts: 1,850	Lucky, I thot the same initially BUT the right part of the train wud be moving as fast as in the other direction......and that wud also make it blurry.....and fading in the same level and manner as we see in the current pic. Had we got that side board at the top a little on the right side we cud have guessed it since it wud have left a nice trail of fading in the back or in the front this pic has been intriguing me.... Well its just possible that its impossible to tell the direction from the pic... unless Mr B tells the story. But lets us ask him to keep mum while we try work out some justification as of now am drained of any clues.

Nov 11th, 2006, 18:43	#5
amyl 21st Century Freak Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Singapura.......in Babenhausen, DE for a while Posts: 1,850	Punch, nope...I can not think of anything with timings... the unknown remains!

Nov 11th, 2006, 18:55	#7
cyberhippie Account Closed by User's Request Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 6,012	If I'm not Mistaken that is the Delhi-Bubaneshwar Rajdhani........Heading for Delhi!!

Nov 11th, 2006, 19:18	#8
capt_mahajan (in charge of navel affairs) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 10,538	In that case, if another train leaves Delhi at 40 km an hour at the same time as this leaves Bhubaneshwar at 45 km an hour, then when is lunch?

Nov 11th, 2006, 19:48	#10
rab Honorary Mod Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: McLaren Vale, South Australia Posts: 1,216	Actually I made that up. One thing to notice though is that there is sunlight shining on the right side of the concrete sleepers in the bottom right of the photo. That means the train is travelling with the sun on the far side or the right side of the photo. If this is the morning then the train is travelling west, northwest or north. If it is evening it is travelling east, southeast or south. Or, it is going the other way. Consulting the timetable to see when the train passes Balanagar-Dankuni will reveal which way it is moving. My guess is that this is train number 2301 which leaves Howrah at 16:55 therefore it's the evening train travelling north. Therefore it is going right to left in the photo. Easy!

Nov 14th, 2006, 16:35	#12
amyl 21st Century Freak Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Singapura.......in Babenhausen, DE for a while Posts: 1,850	I lost my previous post!!!!! was the site hacked or something?? got a really unusual message...

Nov 14th, 2006, 17:02	#13
praks Senile Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 331	The train is moving from left to right, i.e. the photographer took the picture as the train was coming towards him. In India, in a corridor comprising two tracks, trains run on the left track. Seeing the electric pylons behind the train, as well as the trees, it is obvious that there are only two tracks where this picture was taken and the train is travelling on the right track, towards the photographer. One can see part of the empty track on the left on which the train going away from the photographer would have travelled.

Nov 14th, 2006, 17:04	#14
mr pastry Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 131	My guess is left to right. I seem to remember the trains in India run on the same side as the UK, so would pass right hand side to right hand side. I hope the photographer also carried a mirror to see behind him, as he appears to be standing in the middle of the tracks! Even with the amount of hooting that goes on on Indian Railways I wouldn't have thought it a good idea to be where he is.

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