When You Find A Picture Taken by You ...

Paresh · Oct 1st, 2008, 17:49

That is all one can expect in India because the Laws are like that.

In between, loved your status "Sair Kar Duniya Ki Galib , Jindagani Fir Kahan ..."

To make it more beautiful, (just suggestion not correction

)
Jindagani => Zindagani
Fir => Phir

This is Urdu, a beautiful language!!

mridula · Oct 10th, 2008, 17:11

Paresh, somehow I have not got around to making the changes but soon. Thanks for the suggestions.

Today Mint (related to Hindustant Times and Wall Street journal) did an article on mainstream media taking pictures from blogs-

http://www.livemint.com/2008/10/1000...dia-to-ov.html

What are your views?

brishti · Oct 11th, 2008, 01:04

good article mridula... i'm glad to know that folks are raising a hue and cry about the plagiarizing of photographs.

but i doubt the procedure will halt.
somebody's got to take them newspapers to the cleaners - make a big noise - lots of tv coverage... i think then, them TOI's etc will sit up.
as of now - they must be keeping 500 bucks handy - to pay off every objection they receive.

i guess you just got to keep at it - laagey raho as they say

watermark [ as nick suggested ] in the corner - that should keep them wolves at bay - no?

all the best - keep at them with a battering ram.

:brishti

silversurfer · Oct 11th, 2008, 01:18

Hard to claim "massive damages" unless you are willing to invest. For every Rs. 100,000 that you claim you have to spend about Rs. 8,000 on court fee.

brishti · Oct 11th, 2008, 01:36

true.
which is why 'they' keep getting away with it.
there has to be some organised way of tackling this i guess - instead of individuals.

:brishti

Nick-H · Oct 11th, 2008, 01:55

There is an entire culture, in which the concept of copyright is barely recognised, to be changed.

Even in the classical world, only dancers ever seem to make any attempt to safeguard and capitalise on intellectual rights in their perfomance. If anybody tried to pay a fee for performing a composition by a living composer, I suspect the composer would be astonished!

enidhi · Oct 16th, 2008, 13:55

Times of India subsequently ran a clarification in my case, apologizing for the same and giving me credit.

http://www.enidhi.net/2008/10/satisf...-incident.html

Nick-H · Oct 16th, 2008, 17:17

That's interesting to read, and good to know.

Whilst I think they are are cheeky for not offering you at least the going library rate (probably often not that much), I also think it is probably harder to get an apology printed in a newspaper than it is to get money out of them, so well done

mridula · Oct 16th, 2008, 17:30

Enidhi, good to see you here! 30 messages and I did not spot you here before!

enidhi · Oct 16th, 2008, 20:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by mridula

Enidhi, good to see you here! 30 messages and I did not spot you here before!

Yeah-sorry about that.

mridula · Oct 16th, 2008, 22:49

No, no, I meant to say that I should have spotted you earlier at IM from your previous messages and not that you should have responded here!!

enidhi · Oct 17th, 2008, 17:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by mridula

No, no, I meant to say that I should have spotted you earlier at IM from your previous messages and not that you should have responded here!!

Ok...

PLaneMad · Nov 6th, 2008, 18:45

i got robbed again

my photo from wikipedia is being used in a print ad campaign for magic bricks. I've put up the details here
Been sending them emails past three days without reply. I cant even take this up more seriously cause my exams are on

mridula · Nov 6th, 2008, 21:19

But there is always after the exams. Sheesh, Mudra on top of it too!

theshutterbug · Feb 22nd, 2009, 16:31

I have been in this spot numerous times.
Most of the times i have been sweetly surprised that they do accept their fault and put an apology in their next print issue.

But these things are effective only by 2 means

1. Visiting the publication personally and finding out how it happened. Meeting the editor in chief. A call for an appointment helps. be stern and professional but not rude and attacking. I dont feel going personally as waste of time in internet age coz i take this opportunity to market myself too. Also personal discussions (arguments) create more impact.

2. Proving beyond doubt that its your image. Best way to deal with this is carry the original and ask the editor can you pls show your original. If editor says he does not have create pressue by saying i have it right now and i can prove it right away.

In most of the cases i have seen is the images are either got from some outsourced photographer or an amateur inhouse editor. They have very less or poor knowledge about copyright. even if they do have they are not net savvy. As in one of my cases i was arguing with the editor and he said we found the images on google site and not yours. i made him open the site and made him read the copyright notice on google images on top side. He was convinced.

But in general they do respect copyright. Just that the juniors have screwed up or these is some misinformation or miscommunication.

Oct 10th, 2008, 17:11	#122
mridula Sair Kar Duniya Ki Galib , Jindagani Fir Kahan ... Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 2,586	Paresh, somehow I have not got around to making the changes but soon. Thanks for the suggestions. Today Mint (related to Hindustant Times and Wall Street journal) did an article on mainstream media taking pictures from blogs- http://www.livemint.com/2008/10/1000...dia-to-ov.html What are your views? __________________ Mridula Travel Tales from India

Oct 16th, 2008, 13:55	#127
enidhi Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Chennai Posts: 65	Times of India subsequently ran a clarification in my case, apologizing for the same and giving me credit. http://www.enidhi.net/2008/10/satisf...-incident.html __________________ I blog at enidhi.net (Check out the all new template)

Feb 22nd, 2009, 16:31	#135
theshutterbug Wired For Sound Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 173	I have been in this spot numerous times. Most of the times i have been sweetly surprised that they do accept their fault and put an apology in their next print issue. But these things are effective only by 2 means 1. Visiting the publication personally and finding out how it happened. Meeting the editor in chief. A call for an appointment helps. be stern and professional but not rude and attacking. I dont feel going personally as waste of time in internet age coz i take this opportunity to market myself too. Also personal discussions (arguments) create more impact. 2. Proving beyond doubt that its your image. Best way to deal with this is carry the original and ask the editor can you pls show your original. If editor says he does not have create pressue by saying i have it right now and i can prove it right away. In most of the cases i have seen is the images are either got from some outsourced photographer or an amateur inhouse editor. They have very less or poor knowledge about copyright. even if they do have they are not net savvy. As in one of my cases i was arguing with the editor and he said we found the images on google site and not yours. i made him open the site and made him read the copyright notice on google images on top side. He was convinced. But in general they do respect copyright. Just that the juniors have screwed up or these is some misinformation or miscommunication. __________________ ------ My India Travel Pictures

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Oct 1st, 2008, 17:49	#121
Paresh No no, I am not a Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: India Posts: 278	That is all one can expect in India because the Laws are like that. In between, loved your status "Sair Kar Duniya Ki Galib , Jindagani Fir Kahan ..." To make it more beautiful, (just suggestion not correction ) Jindagani => Zindagani Fir => Phir This is Urdu, a beautiful language!!

Oct 11th, 2008, 01:04	#123
brishti disMember Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: india Posts: 3,687	good article mridula... i'm glad to know that folks are raising a hue and cry about the plagiarizing of photographs. but i doubt the procedure will halt. somebody's got to take them newspapers to the cleaners - make a big noise - lots of tv coverage... i think then, them TOI's etc will sit up. as of now - they must be keeping 500 bucks handy - to pay off every objection they receive. i guess you just got to keep at it - laagey raho as they say watermark [ as nick suggested ] in the corner - that should keep them wolves at bay - no? all the best - keep at them with a battering ram. :brishti

Oct 11th, 2008, 01:18	#124
silversurfer Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Delhi / Gurgaon Posts: 131	Hard to claim "massive damages" unless you are willing to invest. For every Rs. 100,000 that you claim you have to spend about Rs. 8,000 on court fee.

Oct 11th, 2008, 01:36	#125
brishti disMember Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: india Posts: 3,687	true. which is why 'they' keep getting away with it. there has to be some organised way of tackling this i guess - instead of individuals. :brishti

Oct 11th, 2008, 01:55	#126
Nick-H This is just a cameo appearance Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 36,173	There is an entire culture, in which the concept of copyright is barely recognised, to be changed. Even in the classical world, only dancers ever seem to make any attempt to safeguard and capitalise on intellectual rights in their perfomance. If anybody tried to pay a fee for performing a composition by a living composer, I suspect the composer would be astonished!

Oct 16th, 2008, 17:17	#128
Nick-H This is just a cameo appearance Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 36,173	That's interesting to read, and good to know. Whilst I think they are are cheeky for not offering you at least the going library rate (probably often not that much), I also think it is probably harder to get an apology printed in a newspaper than it is to get money out of them, so well done

Oct 16th, 2008, 17:30	#129
mridula Sair Kar Duniya Ki Galib , Jindagani Fir Kahan ... Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 2,586	Enidhi, good to see you here! 30 messages and I did not spot you here before!

Oct 16th, 2008, 22:49	#131
mridula Sair Kar Duniya Ki Galib , Jindagani Fir Kahan ... Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 2,586	No, no, I meant to say that I should have spotted you earlier at IM from your previous messages and not that you should have responded here!!

Nov 6th, 2008, 18:45	#133
PLaneMad Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 107	i got robbed again my photo from wikipedia is being used in a print ad campaign for magic bricks. I've put up the details here Been sending them emails past three days without reply. I cant even take this up more seriously cause my exams are on

Nov 6th, 2008, 21:19	#134
mridula Sair Kar Duniya Ki Galib , Jindagani Fir Kahan ... Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 2,586	But there is always after the exams. Sheesh, Mudra on top of it too!