When You Find A Picture Taken by You ...

dzibead · Jan 6th, 2008, 06:36

Stupefying!

mridula · Jan 6th, 2008, 11:13

Lily, thanks for the comments. And it is good to see you here!

Karuna, I can understand, that would leave me mad. And I of course would not even know where to begin in such a case.

T.I.P · Jan 16th, 2008, 22:56

YOu may consider speaking to the airline. They will just give you the run around.. however if you are persistent, they will apologize.

If you want more than an apology, then you may speak to your lawyer. Most probably they will settle. You most probably will end up with free tickets for a few months.

However, if the publication of the magazine was outsourced, then you are in for a big fight!

mridula · Jan 16th, 2008, 23:04

TIP, thanks for the reply. The airline and the magazine have promised me compensation and a correction in the next issue. I will show patience till Feb.

mridula · Jan 20th, 2008, 00:00

I was wondering what should I do? This picture of mine was used in the December issue and I agree their January issue must have been in the press by the time we got talking. But now it must be time for the February issue and I have not heard from anyone. Should I wait or should I bother the editor again?

When does an issue goes to the press? Any ideas?

Nick-H · Jan 20th, 2008, 00:04

Unless it necessarily contains topical information, quite possibly months before.

But yes, I think you should stay on that editor's back.

Did you receive the payment yet? Has he invited you to submit an invoice?

mridula · Jan 20th, 2008, 00:11

No Nick, I have not heard from them at all after promising me all the good things like credit and compensation.

Nick-H · Jan 20th, 2008, 00:28

Pick that phone up!

And get specific with them.

mridula · Jan 20th, 2008, 00:44

OK, I will start with the email round again and then if nothing happens by Feb, I will pick up the phone!

Shaktipalooza · Jan 20th, 2008, 02:08

There is a much larger issue here in that corporations are becoming very casual about stealing imagery from unsuspecting photographers. If the penalty for getting caught is posting a clarification on the source and perhaps a token payment to the original photographer then there's zero incentive for them to change their practices.

It's theft people, plain and simple, and it's hurting the photography industry as a whole.

OP, please do not let these people dictate the terms of your compensation. I'd say it's time to pick your rate, add a large premium, and send them the bill, then pursue your collection options.

There was a really good thread on how one might pursue this on another forum. I'll post the link once their search engine comes back online.

mridula · Jan 20th, 2008, 11:13

Shakti, thanks for your viewpoint. Yeah, I never even actually discussed compensation. On Monday, I will definitely remember to bring this up.

dzibead · Jan 20th, 2008, 12:00

I agree with Nick and Shakti. It's probably "slipped their mind" or they're hoping you've forgotten or were appeased by their promises. Remember: the squeaky wheel gets the grease!

nomad · Jan 20th, 2008, 12:14

mridula,

could you check the copyright agreement of the place where you share your pictures online? i know few site that take copyright of the images that you upload there.

but this looks more like a reporter who just picked the image from the web.

mridula · Jan 20th, 2008, 13:06

Dzibead,I too thought so.

Nomad, they were posted on my blog where I clearly say I own the copyright.

mridula · Jan 21st, 2008, 13:28

I have been offered Rs 1000 as a compensation whereas they say their normal rate is Rs 500. I have no quarrel with the amount, as I do not earn my living from travel writing/photography. And as I have a packed schedule, I really do not have the inclination to fight this from a legal angle.

But I added this message from Shakti to the mail to the editor-

"There is a much larger issue here in that corporations are becoming very casual about stealing imagery from unsuspecting photographers. If the penalty for getting caught is posting a clarification on the source and perhaps a token payment to the original photographer then there's zero incentive for them to change their practices.

It's theft people, plain and simple, and it's hurting the photography industry as a whole."

And a link to this whole thread. Also asked this time if they have my address on records and for a copy of the magazine to see the corrections if not possible online. Let us see what do I get to hear.

And once again, thanks a lot for all the suggestions and help and keeping up my morale.

Jan 6th, 2008, 11:13	#77
mridula Sair Kar Duniya Ki Galib , Jindagani Fir Kahan ... Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 1,168	Lily, thanks for the comments. And it is good to see you here! Karuna, I can understand, that would leave me mad. And I of course would not even know where to begin in such a case. __________________ mridula http://www.gonomad.com/traveltalesfromindia/

Jan 16th, 2008, 22:56	#78
T.I.P Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: New Delhi, India Posts: 115	YOu may consider speaking to the airline. They will just give you the run around.. however if you are persistent, they will apologize. If you want more than an apology, then you may speak to your lawyer. Most probably they will settle. You most probably will end up with free tickets for a few months. However, if the publication of the magazine was outsourced, then you are in for a big fight! __________________ http://www.TheIndianPhotographer.blog spot.com http://www.TheIndianPhotographer.Free Forums.org

Jan 20th, 2008, 00:00	#80
mridula Sair Kar Duniya Ki Galib , Jindagani Fir Kahan ... Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 1,168	Should I Write to the Editor Again? I was wondering what should I do? This picture of mine was used in the December issue and I agree their January issue must have been in the press by the time we got talking. But now it must be time for the February issue and I have not heard from anyone. Should I wait or should I bother the editor again? When does an issue goes to the press? Any ideas?

Jan 20th, 2008, 00:04	#81
Nick-H Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 24,616	Unless it necessarily contains topical information, quite possibly months before. But yes, I think you should stay on that editor's back. Did you receive the payment yet? Has he invited you to submit an invoice? __________________ . Just one member of the IndiaMike Mod Team

Jan 20th, 2008, 02:08	#85
Shaktipalooza Maha Guru Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 894	There is a much larger issue here in that corporations are becoming very casual about stealing imagery from unsuspecting photographers. If the penalty for getting caught is posting a clarification on the source and perhaps a token payment to the original photographer then there's zero incentive for them to change their practices. It's theft people, plain and simple, and it's hurting the photography industry as a whole. OP, please do not let these people dictate the terms of your compensation. I'd say it's time to pick your rate, add a large premium, and send them the bill, then pursue your collection options. There was a really good thread on how one might pursue this on another forum. I'll post the link once their search engine comes back online. __________________ IndiaGroove - Train finder now in beta! Pics from India 2006 Traditional Indian Dance

Jan 6th, 2008, 06:36	#76
dzibead Maha Guru Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,915	Stupefying!

Jan 16th, 2008, 23:04	#79
mridula Sair Kar Duniya Ki Galib , Jindagani Fir Kahan ... Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 1,168	TIP, thanks for the reply. The airline and the magazine have promised me compensation and a correction in the next issue. I will show patience till Feb.

Jan 20th, 2008, 00:11	#82
mridula Sair Kar Duniya Ki Galib , Jindagani Fir Kahan ... Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 1,168	No Nick, I have not heard from them at all after promising me all the good things like credit and compensation.

Jan 20th, 2008, 00:28	#83
Nick-H Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 24,616	Pick that phone up! And get specific with them.

Jan 20th, 2008, 00:44	#84
mridula Sair Kar Duniya Ki Galib , Jindagani Fir Kahan ... Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 1,168	OK, I will start with the email round again and then if nothing happens by Feb, I will pick up the phone!

Jan 20th, 2008, 11:13	#86
mridula Sair Kar Duniya Ki Galib , Jindagani Fir Kahan ... Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 1,168	Shakti, thanks for your viewpoint. Yeah, I never even actually discussed compensation. On Monday, I will definitely remember to bring this up.

Jan 20th, 2008, 12:00	#87
dzibead Maha Guru Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,915	I agree with Nick and Shakti. It's probably "slipped their mind" or they're hoping you've forgotten or were appeased by their promises. Remember: the squeaky wheel gets the grease!

Jan 20th, 2008, 12:14	#88
nomad Maha Guru Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Singapura Posts: 599	mridula, could you check the copyright agreement of the place where you share your pictures online? i know few site that take copyright of the images that you upload there. but this looks more like a reporter who just picked the image from the web. __________________ Rahul Verma http://rverma.smugmug.com www.pbase.com/rverma

Jan 20th, 2008, 13:06	#89
mridula Sair Kar Duniya Ki Galib , Jindagani Fir Kahan ... Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 1,168	Dzibead,I too thought so. Nomad, they were posted on my blog where I clearly say I own the copyright.

Jan 21st, 2008, 13:28	#90
mridula Sair Kar Duniya Ki Galib , Jindagani Fir Kahan ... Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 1,168	I have been offered Rs 1000 as a compensation whereas they say their normal rate is Rs 500. I have no quarrel with the amount, as I do not earn my living from travel writing/photography. And as I have a packed schedule, I really do not have the inclination to fight this from a legal angle. But I added this message from Shakti to the mail to the editor- "There is a much larger issue here in that corporations are becoming very casual about stealing imagery from unsuspecting photographers. If the penalty for getting caught is posting a clarification on the source and perhaps a token payment to the original photographer then there's zero incentive for them to change their practices. It's theft people, plain and simple, and it's hurting the photography industry as a whole." And a link to this whole thread. Also asked this time if they have my address on records and for a copy of the magazine to see the corrections if not possible online. Let us see what do I get to hear. And once again, thanks a lot for all the suggestions and help and keeping up my morale.

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