Photo noise reduction

Wanderer22 · May 5th, 2005, 03:33

The problem with many digital cameras, especially the ones with small sensors is the amount of digital noise at higher ASA settings. Not everyone wants to spend thousands on a more advanced DSLR with larger sensor and higher useable ASA range. Don't despair, there's software that can make a big difference to your noisy photos. Just available is an excellent package called Picture Cooler
I ran it on an available light shot (400ASA) of a dancer at the Mamallapuram festival. As you can see from the example its done a remarkable job of cleaning noise speckle from the image. I still want a new DSLR, but am now able to clean up any noisy shots from the little 2MP Canon. Just wanted to share this with others who may be in the same boat.

Wanderer22

DoDi · May 5th, 2005, 03:36

Wow! Thank you very much wanderer22. I am going to download it this weekend and try it out.

Muchas Gracias!

Hyderabadi · May 5th, 2005, 03:51

Picture Cooler is a great program. I do have a DSLR (Canon D.Rebel), but I still do some amount of processing.

Which of the Canon moddels do you have? I'm a Canon fan myself.

Also try:
Neat Image
PhotoFiltre
Picasa
GIMP (learning curve!)

Picasa is a great freebie from Google, for basic cataloging of pictures on your computer and also has a few editing functions.

Merchant · May 5th, 2005, 03:54

If you can spare the $100, Photoshop Elements 3.0 is a superb program (much better than the 2.0 version).

Hyderabadi · May 5th, 2005, 04:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merchant

If you can spare the $100, Photoshop Elements 3.0 is a superb program (much better than the 2.0 version).

True, I have Elements 2 and have just downloaded the 30 day trial version of #3 HERE and I like it a whole lot better. May end up buying it.

Hyderabadi · May 5th, 2005, 04:12

And Raw Shooter Essentials for processing images shot in .RAW format in DSLRs.

vistet · May 5th, 2005, 05:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hyderabadi

Also try:
Neat Image
PhotoFiltre
Picasa
GIMP (learning curve!)

Picasa is a great freebie from Google, for basic cataloging of pictures on your computer and also has a few editing functions.

GimpShop (plasticbugs.com) is a port from GIMP (OS X, Windows and Linux versions) that clones very closely the menu setups , tools etc. from Photoshop, cutting down the the orientation phase.

Wanderer22 · May 5th, 2005, 05:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hyderabadi

Picture Cooler is a great program. I do have a DSLR (Canon D.Rebel), but I still do some amount of processing.

Which of the Canon models do you have? I'm a Canon fan myself.

Camera on the recent trip was a little 2 Mp S330 ELPH. My choice was to travel light this time and leave the film cameras (M4s) at home. I had Canon SLR gear 40 years ago, but switched over to Leitz when they started giving mechanical problems (lenses fell apart while travelling). Right now am seriously thinking of a Canon 350D or Nikon D70s. Cameras are a bit of an obsession as I also like to play with medium and large format(4"x5"). Would have loved to shoot some 4x5 negs at Hampi, but am afraid I would have needed a couple bearers to pack all the gear. My back is not as young as it used to be.

Am using Adobe Photoshop6 and Corel12 for tweaking digital images. Each has tools that I prefer to the other.

Wanderer22

Hyderabadi · May 5th, 2005, 07:10

Quote:

...Right now am seriously thinking of a Canon 350D or Nikon D70s. Cameras are a bit of an obsession....

I've heard great reviews of the 350D from users. If you get one, get the kit lens (18-55mm) too, definitely worth it.

Besides the 300D, I also have the Canon Power Shot A70 for the 'travelling light' situations and am not in the mood to show-off

That's another good camera. Also have a Russian Zenit film SLR, a Minolta my late father bought in Japan, still works (1969), a couple of cheap 1.3mp cameras for the kids, A Sony DV Cam and a Canon HI8...
Obsession too

DoDi · May 5th, 2005, 08:26

I just got a panasonic lumix fz20 and I'm loving it. It's got a 12x leica lens, no shake, and manual option on the focus. The 2005 model feels comfortable like an SLR in the hands, but is digital with all the wing dings.

Up to now I was using a Cannon Powershot 50, which is also a very nice digital camera... dependable, sturdy, and the design is perfect for travel... a powerful little camera that slips right in the pocket.

About Photoshop 3.0... I have it and it's great, except it keeps crashing my laptop. I'm not sure why, but after doing operations with it for a bit I suddenly get the dreaded blue screen.

Hyderabadi · May 5th, 2005, 09:08

Quote:

About Photoshop 3.0... I have it and it's great, except it keeps crashing my laptop. I'm not sure why, but after doing operations with it for a bit I suddenly get the dreaded blue screen

Could be the RAM and your cpu speed are not upto it. Generally, laptops are not considered ideal for for stuff like photo/video editing. If you are running WinXP the os itself takes over 256mb of ram + you got to consider a powerful program like ( did you mean ) Elements 3.0. The Adobe site recommends 256 mb ram with 512 recommended, and a 800mhz (P3 or 4) or faster processor. If your laptop meets these requirements then there may be some other problem

. I'm no computer engineer

Looks like your new camera would've come with the Arcsoft software bundle, does that cause a crash too? You could also try PhotoFiltre (link above) which has all the basic tools one would use/need most of the time.

radz · May 5th, 2005, 10:28

For noice removing I use Neatimage .Its free demo version.

Cheers
Radz

Vadim Chiline · May 25th, 2005, 10:39

I also use NeatImage... it does spectacular work. I shoot ISO 3200 shots, and printed them, they looked just awesome.

Canon gear is just great stuff. Nikon is also good, but in the pro-level gear, I think Canon is now leading the pack with innovations.... but anyways, both can render spectacular images with the right person holding the camera.

Vadim

Hyderabadi · Jun 4th, 2005, 02:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by vistet

GimpShop (plasticbugs.com) is a port from GIMP (OS X, Windows and Linux versions) that clones very closely the menu setups , tools etc. from Photoshop, cutting down the the orientation phase.

Thanks for the heads-up Vistet. I had downloaded Gimp but never got around to using it. Will try again with GimpShop. Going on a short break so will have plenty of pictures to experiment with.

May 5th, 2005, 03:33	#1
Wanderer22 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 462	Photo noise reduction The problem with many digital cameras, especially the ones with small sensors is the amount of digital noise at higher ASA settings. Not everyone wants to spend thousands on a more advanced DSLR with larger sensor and higher useable ASA range. Don't despair, there's software that can make a big difference to your noisy photos. Just available is an excellent package called Picture Cooler I ran it on an available light shot (400ASA) of a dancer at the Mamallapuram festival. As you can see from the example its done a remarkable job of cleaning noise speckle from the image. I still want a new DSLR, but am now able to clean up any noisy shots from the little 2MP Canon. Just wanted to share this with others who may be in the same boat. Wanderer22 Attached Thumbnails

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Vadim Chiline Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 59	I also use NeatImage... it does spectacular work. I shoot ISO 3200 shots, and printed them, they looked just awesome. Canon gear is just great stuff. Nikon is also good, but in the pro-level gear, I think Canon is now leading the pack with innovations.... but anyways, both can render spectacular images with the right person holding the camera. Vadim __________________ www.vadimchiline.com

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