Hi-End Point & Shoot OR Entry Level DSLR???

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#1 Jan 22nd, 2011, 14:03
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Hi,

I'm really confused.....

At present I'm using a film SLR camera. Now, I want to upgrade to digital. But my budget is not so high. So, I can't buy a professional DSLR camera. In my budget, I can buy a high-end point and shoot digital camera e.g. P100 or SX30 IS. But with the same amount of money I can buy an Entry Level DSLR e.g. 1000D or D3100.

Please suggest what should I do???
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Point and shoot has the advantage of size so easy to carry, disadvantage of slow shutter speeds, even high end.

Look out for a secondhand D50 from Nikon as these were highly rated and sometimes considered better than some of the more expensive nikons.

The new Nikon 7000 around 65000rup is supposed to be the buisness but a little over most peoples budgets
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Nonsense disadvantage of slow shutter speeds

Shutter speeds are set

I think you are confusing lag ,when you press the take button,to when the image is actually recorded.

This is improving all the time and when comparing models do check the figures out, esp in point and shoot /bridge camersa
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Dhruba, If I were in your situation, I would have asked myself on specific objective in this investment. If it's just for capturing snaps, having a fairly effective tool to take the magic moments and that too without going into the hassles of a film camera, I might consider a good Point and Shoot if that comes in my budget. But if I have any intention of looking at it as an investment in serious photography and later building up my own collection of lenses as per my wish, I would have waited until I save money to invest in DSLR as it's like investing in a system based on which you can develop your own photographic world. You can even build a collection of fair number of good lenses around a second hand D50 and it's like going completely at your own pace where as for SX30/P100, it would be like starting afresh whenever you would like to upgrade.

So if it's just an upgrade to digital, point and shoot should be in serious consideration where as if its entering into digital photography arena with a long term objective and most importantly to build a collection of equipments that suits your specific needs, go for DSLR.

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Dhrubatara. what make is your film SLR? Do you have more than one lens? Would it be possible to use those lenses on a DSLR of the same make?

Otherwise, the cost difference between a high-end super-zoom "pro-sumer" camera and a DSL with several lenses tends to mean that our bank accounts easily determine which market we are in. That is certainly the case for me: the DSLR route is simply not an option.

The boundary is less clear for those who only need one lens, or a narrow zoom range.

I can imagine, though, that, having been using an SLR, you would really miss the "real-camera" feel! If I was to get my old OM1 out of the cupboard and start fondling it...
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I have a Cannon EOS 500D, and have used the newer 550D, both fantastic cameras.
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Hi,
Thanks everybody for such a prompt reply...

I still need suggestion.

@kshil: I've a plan to buy different lenses later. One of my friends told me that if I buy an entry level DSLR, then later on when I'll be using other costly lenses they will not give good performance as the camera body is cheap. He suggested me to get a high end DSLR body i.e. D7000, but that is out of my budget. So, I was thinking of buying a good point and shoot. I've future plan to upgrade with different lenses as the kit lens is only 18-55 mm.

@Nick: I'm using a Zenith SLR with a normal lens (58 mm) and a telephoto (200 mm). But this will not work in any DSLR.
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Dhruba, if you really look for building up your lens collection later, then whatever you would be spending on a P&S now may not justify your investment later. Your friend is to some extent correct, Camera body surely matters but definitely that won't stop you to start building up lens collection, 18-105 or 18-55 or a 50 prime should not have any great difference when used in an entry level or a mid range DSLR. Even if there are some differences, post processing options are quite strong in digital area to work on them. In case budget is a constraint, may be you could look for a second hand body to start with. I know a person who works with Nikon India and can get the DSLR in lower costs than available in market. He was telling price of D90 with standard Kit lens including warranty comes around 43K, not sure what is the grey market price though. I was interested to replace my D80 but problem is they can't sell just the body and I am not interested in getting another kit lens. Other option in Kolkata is checking grey market or if you have any friend in US who can bring a DLSR for you from US, it would certainly be cheaper. But ofcourse there is a threshold upto which you have to spend in case you want to take DSLR route. Considering your future plan, I would always suggest to take DSLR route but you need to work out what optimization can be done to get it in cheapest possible way.
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Hi kshil,
Thanks for your suggestion. You are right that a point and shoot would be wastage of money if I go for different lenses. Though the point and shoot gives 24-840 mm, I'm doubtful about the quality of the pictures. My future plan is to upgrade to a 18-105 mm or may be 55-300 mm. So, if I buy a D3100 will it be suitable for this lens upgradation???

The price you posted for D90 is really cheap. Recently my purchased it from grey market. He paid around 45k.
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Originally Posted by fsg View Post Nonsense disadvantage of slow shutter speeds

Shutter speeds are set

I think you are confusing lag ,when you press the take button,to when the image is actually recorded.

This is improving all the time and when comparing models do check the figures out, esp in point and shoot /bridge camersa
shutter lag indeed... thanks for pointing that out.. I have a Canon G9 btw great camera...
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Yes Point and Shoot is an extreme convenience with its size, cost and the range it provides but if you talk about quality obviously you would get much better result with a tele prime and even with a tele zoom specially if you go for low light shooting.

I haven't used D3100, so not sure about the result specific to it but now been using Nikon for almost 10 years and it never let me down with any body or lens. So don't hesitate to start with D3100 unless you get certain specific negative feedbacks on it. 18-105 or 55-300 shouldn't go wrong with it. I believe you should be more careful in choosing lens than body as body can be sold later where as lens usually be with you for long. Consider investing more on FX lens if you ever even dream of moving to a full sensor from DX format sensor. Also considering convenience and problems of changing lens due to dust in Indian context, it definitely makes sense to invest in longer zoom range than 2 separate lens even though it is a costly alternative. 28-300 may be costlier than getting 24-120/24-85 and 70-300 but probably worth considering.
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Changing lenses isn't the only issue. Point-and-shoot cameras have tiny sensors the size of a nail head, and thus don't pick up much light; the lenses aren't as good because they are so small; they also have other disadvantages such as shutter lag (already mentioned). The ads only mention pixels but no one needs so many pixels.

But SLR (single-lens reflex) cameras are a poor solution. These use mirrors that send the through-the-lens image to the viewfinder; the mirror moves away when you press the shutter, to allow the light to reach the sensor. This made a lot of sense with film because there is no other way to see exactly what the film sees. It makes zero sense with digital sensors because you can easily see what it sees (either on the screen or on an electronic (not optical) viewfinder).

The moving mechanical mirror adds size, weight and time; thousands of pretend-professional photographers use digital SLR cameras, but it is simply collective insanity.

There are cameras with large(r) sensors but without mechanical mirrors. There are premium point-and-shoot cameras such as the Canon S95 ($400); there are micro-four-thirds cameras such as the Olympus e-PL2 ($600); and Sony makes a large-sensor NEX line of cameras. The latter two types have interchangeable lenses and are significantly bigger/heavier than a point-and-shoot, but significantly lighter/smaller than an SLR. Your photos will be much better and you'll almost never need a flash. (Many of these also take HD video.)
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Originally Posted by Dhrubatara View Post Hi,

I'm really confused.....

At present I'm using a film SLR camera. Now, I want to upgrade to digital. But my budget is not so high. So, I can't buy a professional DSLR camera. In my budget, I can buy a high-end point and shoot digital camera e.g. P100 or SX30 IS. But with the same amount of money I can buy an Entry Level DSLR e.g. 1000D or D3100.

Please suggest what should I do???
Had the same concerns , i went ahead and bought myself a D3000 .
Yes i will get limited features compared to a PRO DSLR but once i build my kit of lenses then i will change the body .

On the other hand if you have a good P&S you can always slip it into the bag and use it easily .

See what fits your need , both options are not bad .
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My budget can permit me to buy a D3100 or a SX30 is.
But I was just not sure about the entry level dslr perfomance.
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@RPG: I was just thinking about the sensor size. I've heard that the point and shoot cameras have very small sensors compared to DSLRs. My concern is the picture quality. I've also heard that the pixel is a marketing gimmick of the camera manufacturers. So, what about Canon SX 30 is...any idea?
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