last time: female attire?

snowcrab

Auntiji

To be really effective, Indian women need to do this. And Indian women are dynamite organizers, we have some in our community who are just cracker jack, they get things done. Indian women do have an awful lot of personal power in some spheres, just ask Indian men!

It's not an intractable problem, but like I said, the real solution lies in full employment and that's a big challenge.

Auntyji

Snowcrab, you could have a point there about full employment...these guys need to be kept so busy that there is no time for anything else!

I can joke about it now, but it was a very violating experience. I forgot to add the silver lining...when the assault actually happened, two of my friends happened to be riding by on their bikes. When they saw me (face all scratched and tooth chipped!) they ran towards me, but I yelled at them to go after my attacker who was trying to get to the bus terminus and catch a bus out of the area. My friends caught him and beat him black
and blue.

Then I, my mother, and my women friends decided to start this petition.

xairoise

...can we just mace these gropers? (hehehe). would the girl be apprehended since she used mace with her groper... (if the men tend to see the groping lightly..) and may persecute the defender suppposing she was protecting herself? I'm not really sure about the legality of indian courts there, supposing you got harassed. I don't think screaming would help (would it?) supposing you were in the process of being groped/assaulted?

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traceyam

Civilized people are obligated to control themselves even when they're unemployed. That might be a reason, but it's no excuse.

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snowcrab

"...can we just mace these gropers? (hehehe)."

Might be too much collateral damage if you were to do it on a bus.

Nick-H

Friendly Fire,

Collateral Damage

...oh what gems the US has added to the English Language

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snowcrab

I love this site.

The guys talk about makeup and the gals talk about mace!

And everybody wonders about that strange animal.

BangaloreDancer

camelgirl

[quote=yogagal60510]camelgirl, that happens right here in the good ol' USA! My husband and I lived outside of Dallas, Texas years ago (for three god-awful years) and we were invited to a Super Bowl party. I was the only woman watching the game with the men, every other woman stayed in the kitchen throughout the entire meal and game!
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I've been in the same situation as you described here in the U.S. and you just have to trust me when I tell you it's not remotely similar!!! Women are "invisible" everywhere in Pakistan. There isn't many choices for them. It's real everday life, not just watching a game!

Only in a private home during a party with Westernized, highly educated women who worked outside the home and with foreigners (an anomaly--very, very rare in Pakistan--not like India) did I meet women socially comfortable with men.

Though my experience was limited, only a month, I was surprised at how uncomfortable and oppressive it felt and how little interaction I had with women . Even in the most cosmopolitan city of Islamabad. We got to Peshawar (tense place), Swat (lovely mountains) and Lahore (same as Punjab in India, really nice) And again, everyone treated me very well. There are lots of interesting things to see, so I'm not saying don't check it out if you've got the time. Sorry this got

Sama

"I've been in the same situation as you described here in the U.S. and you just have to trust me when I tell you it's not remotely similar!!! Women are "invisible" everywhere in Pakistan. There isn't many choices for them. It's real everday life, not just watching a game!"


camelgirl, I was not in any way, shape, or form comparing the invisibility or oppression of women in the Middle East to the good ol' boy attitude of the Texas Bible Belt. Of course it's totally different. However, that attitude in and of itself, in that situation and others in my Bible Belt soujourn (and as I was told down there, more than once and quite proudly, Dallas IS the buckle of the Bible Belt) was so absolutely foreign to me in my own experience, that it truly was like living in another country (and I do think Texas uses a phrase similar to that in the tourism ads....) Needless to say, some of those ol' boys did not appreciate the wit and sarcasm of a smart-ass Yankee gal....

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camelgirl

Oh yes! I do feel like my own country is a foreign country sometimes! It's actually worse here because you don't expect it if you've mostly lived in or near big cities in the Northeast! I have never lived in the Bible belt (or buckle!) and think I would be even more uncomfortable than I was in Pakistan--where I had an idea of what to expect.

I also don't think my example was very clear. I guess it would have been like being invited to a dinner party, or out to dinner at a nice restaurant with 8 couples and then only you and the men showed up! Now, I guess I should have felt really popular being the only woman in a restaurant ....but I just felt weird!! I have to reiterate that everyone was really nice and not patronizing or anything. In fact, I didn't get hassled at all anywhere in Pakistan. I can't say that about India, which I prefer and go as often as time and money allow!

wonderwomanusa

>We also were invited to someone's home and I was the only woman eating with the men. The women stayed in the kitchen!<

That was generally true in Northern India some years ago; nobody invited me for dinner on my last visit, so I don't know how it has changed.

laurel

Hello,

What is considered acceptable for women's business attire in India? My (female) manager will be traveling to Mumbai, Hyderabad, Pune, and Bangalore next week and was wondering what to wear.

Are sandals okay?

Thanks!
laurel