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#1 Aug 8th, 2017, 18:18
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planning a 8 day trip to Ladakh. Just wondering about the sun protection factor as I have a super sensitive skin. Apart from sunscreen what more can help? Are there any UV blocking masks available?
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I don't know very much about it, but I do know that sun protection is built into fabrics. I guess you will be wearing a hat: make sure it has a high SPF.

Living in Dubai, you must be good at protecting yourself from the sun already?

It is an important subject, and people don't realise that one can get burnt on a grey and cloudy day. I've been living with this Southern tropical climate for twelve years, but still fell for this one, working outdoors for a couple of hours. on a cool, grey day, and disdaining my wife's advice to put on a shirt.

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If you are flying to Ladakh then effectively you will have 6 days in Ladakh. You will need to be in Leh for 2 days to acclimatize.
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Nutragena Sport 70 if you can find it is a dry convenient spray..
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�� yeah, I use bioderma spf 100, but looking for something more in Ladakh. A physical protection. Seen a couple of them in eBay.
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Long sleeve shirt and they make a hat that has a coverlet that comes down over the ears and neck. I have lost mine. Now to sneak a purchase past my spouse. RailRiders is good for this SPF clothing, watch for their sales..
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Ed,

It's barely 30 bucks for that cap. You can get Patagonia Bimini for $17 - ultimate in yuppie wear. I have something similar - looks hideous but does a good job of covering up...

A lot of SPF are overstated. A lot of time, the protection against the skin cancer is limited. We switched sub-screen from Europe - because some of the better rated sunscreen molecules aren't approved in the US...
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Originally Posted by nostalgia View Post ....spf 100, but looking for something more in Ladakh. A physical protection. Seen a couple of them in eBay.

I remember reading that SPFs over 50 are overkill and do little for extra protection.

" there are potential downsides to using products with very high SPFs. First, above SPF 50 (which blocks an estimated 98 percent of UVB rays), the increase in UVB protection is minimal. Second, although UVA protection is also important (UVA not only accelerates skin aging, but contributes to and may even initiate skin cancers), SPFs mainly measure UVB protection. Individuals applying high-SPF sunscreens may not burn (UVB is the chief cause of sunburn), but without UVA-screening ingredients they can still receive large amounts of skin-damaging radiation."

http://www.skincancer.org/skin-cance...ur-skin-better
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here in Aust -- the home of skin cancer -- although the massive hole in the ozone layer has been reduced -- among professional sun lovers any SPF over 30 is pretty much looked upon as nothing more than pure Marketing.
What Sama relates in the previous post is no doubt true, i have always assumed that information is most relevant when dealing with infants and children. But the real essence in prevention of sun burn, is in the amount and frequency of the application of the sun cream -- mind you if you want full protection best to live in a cellar.
Recent indépendant test's in Aust revealed that to meet manufactures claims, you would have to apply a bucket load of cream every 5 minutes, to stay protected.
The reality is regardless of the brand or SPF rating frequent application is the key to continued protection.
Last year in Tamil Nadu i ran out of my Aust cream, and had to source local product, but they did not work, i tried 4 or 5 different local desi brands but i still got burnt.
Does anyone know of an Indian sun cream that works ?
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Thank you both. I had bought into the High-SPF thing, always buying them for my visits to India. One thing I found out, though, even then, is that for proper protection one would need to look like a cricketer's nose: covered in a thick layer, not the smear that people mostly rub in like a massage oil.

These days I don't spend enough outdoor-life time to even bother. I wear a shirt, long sleeves. I cover my legs. Particularly, since the hair started disappearing, for anything more than a few minutes, I wear a hat. So, sorry, no advice on local creams.

I guess I'll have to review that if I ever join redninja for a trip into the mountains on his bike
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Thank you for the suggestion. I have a skin condition which aggravates with sun exposure. So I should use something more than a sunscreen cream. Yea, the masks don't look pretty though!
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My dermatologist who's removed a few questionable bumps off my body has told me creams/lotions over SPF 30 are useless and merely overkill. It's marketing meant to give you a sense of sun safety. As the link I posted states, you have to look at both the UVA AND UVB protection. As noted above, the key is reapplication like after swimming or mucho sweat.

That being said, there is moisturizer for the face that is rated at certain SPFs if you have a skin care routine. I never leave home without it.

As for other protection, sunglasses, hats, long sleeves and pants. They do make clothes that are supposedly "sunburn proof" that reflect the rays. A quick google brought up this and this.

I've been to Africa on the Serengeti Plain where the sun was blazing. Guides wore long sleeves and those hats with the flaps down the neck. Probably would be worth finding. I'm not a hat person but these don't look too bad!

This company has some neckerchiefs if you really want to cover up. I've seen this brand in person -- very stylish!
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Originally Posted by nostalgia View Post Thank you for the suggestion. I have a skin condition which aggravates with sun exposure. So I should use something more than a sunscreen cream. Yea, the masks don't look pretty though!
If you have a skin condition, this should not be a question. The sun at high elevation is particularly damaging. Looks be damned. Anything that can be covered up with cap / clothing would be superior to the most expensive sunscreen...

A useful article...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3543289/
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Originally Posted by kmalik View Post Anything that can be covered up with cap / clothing would be superior to the most expensive sunscreen...

which is why I gave the links to the websites that sell UVB/UVA clothing.

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