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kalbarri · Jun 21st, 2008, 17:58

i arrived in india in 1977 with enough money to last me 5 months, then survived by doing and selling portrait sketches for a year and a half. in those days the law was slacker but today i would worry about getting evicted for working in india.
i also embroidered backpacks i made from colourful fabrics and sold them to travellers. i survived........

capt_mahajan · Jun 21st, 2008, 21:12

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Originally Posted by edwardseco

if sufficiently brain dead a foren can become a local guru or saint. It happens..

Enough local competition here, too, specially in the brain dead dept.

freenote · Jun 21st, 2008, 21:55

Well that's all the sensible stuff out of the way , and if you do go under the conditions of no cash or severely limited finance ,you might have a hard time ,but i have noticed in the human condition the ability to survive and learn .Many people have started out on journeys with none or very little cash ,in the UK we have a term "winging it " witch seems to fit ,and guess what ,it can work

At least you will be starting on firm ground ,the bottom of the ladder .Have fun and good luck

camelgirl · Jun 21st, 2008, 22:58

Something about the OPs post made me think of this post which generated ALOT of anger & a tiny bit of support...remember "Mr. Barter" (who never actually was an IMer, it was just a news story). Oh, & he didn't get past France

Not exactly the same--this sounds more like "Fly to India without money".

Briton plans to walk to India without money --- Now Off

My opinion...don't go unless you have enough money to support yourself minimally--nothing more disgusting than a beggar/tourist--and there are plenty of them already, who in Goa frequently turn to crime (& have for 40 years--even when India was so cheap you could live on 50 rps a day).

And you must have a way to get money to leave!! Your embassy will not help you get home if you run out of options. They would probably help you contact your family but you'd have to pay for your own transport home.

Oops, feeling anger oozing out....

Save some money, then Go to India, go to an Ashram, live cheap, have a great experience.

freenote · Jun 22nd, 2008, 01:01

Quote camelgirl "Oops, feeling anger oozing out....l "

Why the anger ? many people have started out on a trip like that and have had a good experience . There's that term "character building" the op might decide that it's a silly thing to do and call it off .his decision ?

camelgirl · Jun 22nd, 2008, 01:42

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Originally Posted by freenote

Quote camelgirl "Oops, feeling anger oozing out....l "

Why the anger ? many people have started out on a trip like that and have had a good experience . There's that term "character building" the op might decide that it's a silly thing to do and call it off .his decision ?

Just my personal experiences which informs most peoples opinions ...never could tolerate the western junkies & losers that were begging on the streets of Delhi & elsewhere. The travelers who stayed too long and were barely existing and not having a character building experience...in MY opinion. I feel the same about them right here in my hometown.

And I never met anyone who successfully navigated India or elsewhere who decided that winging it would work. I think that's a myth and nothing I've read by anyone who claims to have done it & had a character building experience has convinced me. Even Kalbarri had enough to live for 5 months! before her talent & enteprenurial skills took over (well done!).

I believe it's naive & selfish to expect other people to take care of you--a traveler who had the ability to gather the funds to get yourself far from home but then left the rest to chance-- particularly in a country with so many people struggling to get by day by day.

I am predisposed to not winging it. The people that are so inclined ultimately depend on the reliable types like me to help them out of a bad situation. No way, I worked too hard to save money to finance all my outstanding character-building travel experiences!

If you want to be a selfish baby, look for Freenote, not me to bail you out

Atma_raga · Jul 13th, 2008, 08:02

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Originally Posted by Sigmatis

Are there places that will offer food and lodging in exchange for work ? I can do anything, from washing floors and toilets to servicing computers or building roofs, so willingness is not the issue, but do such places and/or people actually exist, and what do I have to look out for ?

I have been in one ashram near Haridwar, it is called Shantikunj. They don't charge anything for rooms. One can give donation as much as he can. There are quite good conditions, nice rooms.

safari vala · Jul 17th, 2008, 17:02

india is amazing and my fave but Iran is cheaper than India anyday and also very interesting.

kalbarri · Jul 18th, 2008, 21:54

i loved iran, when i went there in 1977. wasn't sure about being able to go there now.

Jun 21st, 2008, 21:55	#18
freenote senior member refused Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: cornwall UK Posts: 1,554	Well that's all the sensible stuff out of the way , and if you do go under the conditions of no cash or severely limited finance ,you might have a hard time ,but i have noticed in the human condition the ability to survive and learn .Many people have started out on journeys with none or very little cash ,in the UK we have a term "winging it " witch seems to fit ,and guess what ,it can work At least you will be starting on firm ground ,the bottom of the ladder .Have fun and good luck __________________ eyes ,eyes that have seen all , come back to the white chrysanthemum (Basho)

Jun 21st, 2008, 22:58	#19
camelgirl 10 year Visa okee dokee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Swannanoa NC usa Posts: 1,082	Something about the OPs post made me think of this post which generated ALOT of anger & a tiny bit of support...remember "Mr. Barter" (who never actually was an IMer, it was just a news story). Oh, & he didn't get past France Not exactly the same--this sounds more like "Fly to India without money". Briton plans to walk to India without money --- Now Off My opinion...don't go unless you have enough money to support yourself minimally--nothing more disgusting than a beggar/tourist--and there are plenty of them already, who in Goa frequently turn to crime (& have for 40 years--even when India was so cheap you could live on 50 rps a day). And you must have a way to get money to leave!! Your embassy will not help you get home if you run out of options. They would probably help you contact your family but you'd have to pay for your own transport home. Oops, feeling anger oozing out.... Save some money, then Go to India, go to an Ashram, live cheap, have a great experience. __________________ My selected India photos http://www.indiamike.com/photopost/s...r/7030/cat/500

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kalbarri kalbarri Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: WESTERN australia Posts: 426	i loved iran, when i went there in 1977. wasn't sure about being able to go there now. Last edited by kalbarri : Jul 18th, 2008 at 21:57. Reason: words left out

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freenote senior member refused Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: cornwall UK Posts: 1,554	Quote camelgirl "Oops, feeling anger oozing out....l " Why the anger ? many people have started out on a trip like that and have had a good experience . There's that term "character building" the op might decide that it's a silly thing to do and call it off .his decision ?

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