Finding an address in Mumbai - on a map....

#1 Jan 11th, 2008, 02:45
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Hi all,

My family and I are going to Mumbai in February, and we have a visit at this address:
DEODAL KAMAN PO. TALUKA VASAI, DISTT. THANE.

Can anybody assist me plotting this address into a map over Mumbai?

Now it is so, that I love surfing the world with my computer and Google Earth or Googlemaps. And I am trying desperately to locate this address with those tools. But I am very close to giving up now.

Can somebody help me putting a mark in some map to spot the place?

Thanks,
#2 Jan 11th, 2008, 03:09
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That's not Mumbai proper, that's near Vasai in Thane district. Ok, just outside the city, but u need to look for Vasai and Thane in Google. Better still, go to wikimapia, someone's sure to have marked his house or the local temple or whatever...
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I think you need to telephone the organisation and get more info.

I've tried searching the net using different parts of the address, then following links, finding other places with similar addresses, searching again with the new info, and so on.

I have the Eicher Mumbai street atlas and it isn't any help....

DEODAL KAMAN PO cant be found as a street, a business or a post office.

TALUKA VASAI - Taluka can mean many things, vasai is misleading (as there is a large area called Vasai, but I don't think it's refereing to the area, Taluka.....can't be found in the Eicher index.

Thane District is a very big district.
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Kaman village

Kaman Village is outside, to the North of Mumbai.

See this link from Wikimapia

http://wikimapia.org/#lat=19.376539&...15&l=0&m=a&v=2

The center is Raychem factory at Kaman. To its left is a road intersection marked Chinchota Naka. Naka means crossraods. This Chinchoti Naka is also known as Kaman Naka. Further South of Raychem is Kaman village. Just follow the tiny road southwards.

OK ... i just discovered something marked "Fernandes Spot, Devdal, Kaman" just South of the Raychem Kaman. See this link.

http://wikimapia.org/#lat=19.366418&...18&l=0&m=a&v=2
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In rural India, addresses are often given as mentioned by the OP.
Thus, DEODAL, KAMAN PO., TALUKA VASAI, DISTT. THANE will mean village: Deodal, served by Kaman Post Office(hence the PO), in Vasai Taluka, in district Thane. A district comprises talukas, each of which comprises villages. A largish village(or one located on an all weather road) will have the post office which serves all the nearby villages.

Vasai Road is a station on the Western railway suburban line. You can get an auto-rickshaw to Kaman and probably, even to village Deodal from the Eastern side of the station.
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I'm always so impressed by the depth of knowledge on this site!

I can't add much except to say that if you are over here and are trying to find the place - you really need a 'landmark'.

Even official documents can ask for your landmark - and it's the best way of getting to a specific place by taxi.

Even letters can be marked with 'Landmark - Vijay Bookshop' or 'Santa Cruz Police Chowki'
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Steve, as I mentioned in #2, it's not in Mumbai, therefore the Eicher won't reveal any such address.
Unfortunately the missing commas caused confusion - praks has given how it shud be correctly written.
A taluk (Hindi/Marathi) is simply the next lower administrative unit of a district, further sub-divided into blocks. A taluk may also be called a sub-division or a tahsil.

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Originally Posted by Familyonthemove View Post Even letters can be marked with 'Landmark - Vijay Bookshop' or 'Santa Cruz Police Chowki'
Hey, that's no big deal - a homeless man once got a letter delivered by a postman at "C/o Abc Statue, Xyz Park".
Ok, I shud own up and mention this was a newspaper cartoon long ago.
But it CUD easily happen! After all this IS India.
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Hi all,

Thanks a lot for the good inputs.
I have already tried the first trick of googling parts of the address to find other locations in the neighbourhood. No luck, unfortunately.

I initiated this thread, because I might be lucky, that any Mumbai/Vasei locals coming by would know the place.
And I think, that the hints so far are really worthful.
I wasnīt aware of the definitions of talukas and villages etc. And the pieces from WikiMapia set in by AvidTrekker are definitely bringing me closer as well.

I am not nervous of not being able to find the place, when I get to Mumbai. I know, that the hotel has drivers knowing how to get there. I just would like to locate and see the place on a map as well.
The reason is, that my daughter has lived there in an orphanage, until my wife and I adopted her. It simply feels right to be able to spot on a map the place, where my daughter has lived.

The orphanage is called Shejar Chhaya. Does that ring any more bells with anyone?

By the way - we will be vistiting the place in 4 weeks time.
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Rosenberg,

The address itself is not complete. All it lists is a post office name (Deodal Kaman), locality (Vasai) and district (Thane). there is no street information. If it helps, the pin code for that post office is 401 202.

I supect Vasai may be a the name of the street as there is a Vasai Road in Thane.
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The orphanage is called Shejar Chhaya. Does that ring any more bells with anyone?
Why don't you call them or email them for some landmark?


Shejar Chhaya
Deodal Kaman P.O.
Taluka Vasai
Dist. Thane - 401202
Karmayogis: Fr. Gonzalves, Sr. Carmal
Tel.: 9520-22210212 (note, that will be +91 and then the number)

http://www.karmayog.com/lists/orphanages.htm


Also

SHEJAR CHHAYA DEODAL KAMAN PO. TALUKA VASAI, DISTT. THANE,(shejar@bom7.vsnl.net.in) THANE, TEL:- 91-0250-2210212 (Note: this seems to be updated, a few years ago another '2' was added to the phone number. so 22210212, same as the first link, is correct)




http://www.adoptionindia.nic.in/ipa.asp
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Hi,

I have talked to the orphenage some days ago to schedule our visit. But honestly, I didnīt want to bother him with my private wish of spotting the place on a map. I imagine, that when taking care of a orphenage, this kind of request seems quite unimportant.

I have found some new information. Somebody has described how to get there from central Mumbai:

Take the Mumbai-Ahemdabad Highway.
Turn right at Chinchoti-Bhiwandi Road - there is a 'Police-post' at the corner of the turn.
The orphenage is located at Deodal Sanpada Road.


Now looking at this together with the information from AvidTrekker (#4), I thinking, that perhaps, the turn described perhaps is the intersection "Chinchota Naka" mentioned by AvedTrekker.

I am looking closely into this to see, if I can find it.
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Originally Posted by crvlvr View Post Rosenberg,

The address itself is not complete. All it lists is a post office name (Deodal Kaman), locality (Vasai) and district (Thane). there is no street information. If it helps, the pin code for that post office is 401 202.

I supect Vasai may be a the name of the street as there is a Vasai Road in Thane.
For a village in India, where 95% of the time there are no street names or building nos., that address is correct.
For it to be easier read as per the common practice, it wud be:
Vill. Deodal, PO: Kaman, Taluk: Vasai, Dist: Thane.
Of course the PIN code helps!

There is a Vasai Road in Thane because it leads to, of course, Vasai.
Just like, e.g., there's an Alandi Road in Pune, a Lalitpur Road in Jhansi, a Delhi Road in Meerut, and a Rohtak Road in Delhi.

In any case this is all moot now, as Capt has dug up the correct place/address. However the fone no. info is incomplete.

Capt,
"Tel.: 9520-22210212 (note, that will be +91 and then the number)"

"9520" won't work for calls from outside India or even Maharashtra; it wud normally have to be "(0)20" (shud be the same circs in AP? )
In any case 020/9520 (Pune) is incorrect for Vasai area now (might have been the case before), and since I also had serious doubts that a non-metro area wud have 8-digit nos., I did some searching. Took a while too - after searching both MTNL (for Thane) and BSNL, finally it turns out that Vasai is under Kalyan circle of BSNL - searching for "Vasai" brings no results, but an STD-code search throws up a positive result for...wait for it..."Bassein"! Oh, BROTHER ! Is this what the Portuguese were kicked out for?!

Anyway, folks, here are the results - turns out there's another branch of Shejar Chhaya on Ambadi Road in Vasai town as well (tel exchange: Bassein Road). For the Deodal one (tel exchange: Kaman), the fone no. from Capt's 2nd link is correct as it is: 0250-2210212
(R-L - from Mumbai/other parts of Maharashtra, u can dial 95250-2210212 - local call charge in that case. And from abroad u already know)

R-L,
U will not find the orphanage online becos no one has marked it, in wikimapia at least - I did a detailed search last night with all possible names and nothing shows up. As hinted at above, there is no further poss to find it there becos of no street names/nos. in that area. Maybe u have better luck with Google.
Other than that, Avid's wiki link has taken u right into Deodal and the orphanage must be close by; maybe u'll have to be satisfied with that for now, until u can identify it yourself from the actual ground position and mark it yourself!
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The best address I was ever given was: -

Manoj ......
Son of ......
by Water tank
..... (name of village)


And amazingly, that was enough, everyone by the watertank knew him.

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Originally Posted by Dilliwala View Post Steve, as I mentioned in #2, it's not in Mumbai, therefore the Eicher won't reveal any such address.
The Eicher covers Thane as well.
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Originally Posted by steven_ber View Post The Eicher covers Thane as well.
Ok, didn't know that - guess that's the metropolitan area, without the district outback of Vasai, Kaman, etc.
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Turn right

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Originally Posted by Rosenberg-Larsen View Post Now looking at this together with the information from AvidTrekker (#4), I thinking, that perhaps, the turn described perhaps is the intersection "Chinchota Naka" mentioned by AvedTrekker.

I am looking closely into this to see, if I can find it.
Yes.

That turn is the same one. Call it Chinchoti phata or Naka. Call it Kaman phata or naka. The right turn leads to Kaman village.
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