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#1 Oct 17th, 2017, 22:57
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Hi

Has anyone tried 'Rick Simpson' hemp oil, for cancer treatment in Mumbai ?.

It has had a good write up in some of the UK newspapers, and I see it advertised by a Mumbai Pharmacy Company.

I'd be obliged if anyone can give me any further information on this.
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Has anyone tried 'Rick Simpson' hemp oil, for cancer treatment in Mumbai ?.

It has had a good write up in some of the UK newspapers, and I see it advertised by a Mumbai Pharmacy Company.

I'd be obliged if anyone can give me any further information on this.
Might as well try snakeskin oil. If you are serious about treatment then try and avoid such "cures". If they worked everybody would be doing it.
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Originally Posted by JOHNLORD View Post If they worked everybody would be doing it.
That is an erroneous conclusion. Just because something is a good remedy does not automatically mean, everyone who would need it, actually knows about it, and then tries it. Just think how much money and propaganda big pharma has to put into selling new developments in pharmaceuticals to doctors. That is something that ordinary folks simply cannot do.

There are some remedies so amazingly successful (not for cancer, but for heart disease in this case that I am thinking of, one that even can stop a heart attack right when it is happening) but it has a hard time to get known with people.

Your statement is often used as argument against really good treatments, and I think it is based on a misunderstanding of how markets work.

I am not saying this one is a good remedy. In fact I have never heard of it until today, but looking at some of the testimonials, I would look into it further as well.

https://www.cureyourowncancer.org/testimonials.html

India has always been the place where pharmaceuticals difficult to get, or too expensive to make in the West (or in this case fraught with legal questions), have been made and marketed at a lower price than in other countries, so I could imagine that this is the case with this one too.
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Originally Posted by atala View Post That is an erroneous conclusion. Just because something is a good remedy does not automatically mean, everyone who would need it, actually knows about it, and then tries it. Just think how much money and propaganda big pharma has to put into selling new developments in pharmaceuticals to doctors. That is something that ordinary folks simply cannot do.

There are some remedies so amazingly successful (not for cancer, but for heart disease in this case that I am thinking of, one that even can stop a heart attack right when it is happening) but it has a hard time to get known with people.

Your statement is often used as argument against really good treatments, and I think it is based on a misunderstanding of how markets work.

I am not saying this one is a good remedy. In fact I have never heard of it until today, but looking at some of the testimonials, I would look into it further as well.

https://www.cureyourowncancer.org/testimonials.html

India has always been the place where pharmaceuticals difficult to get, or too expensive to make in the West (or in this case fraught with legal questions), have been made and marketed at a lower price than in other countries, so I could imagine that this is the case with this one too.
Can you share the remedy for heart?
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Oh please...........

Given the amazing properties of snake oil, pomegranate seeds and the miraculous life-giving kale, I am surprised that my Doctor has anything to do. If Gwyneth Paltrow were Secretary of State for health the world would be a better place.If only the billions that are currently spent on radiotherapy, chemo, antibiotics, physiotherapy etc were reallocated to cannabis farming then the world would be illness free, or would it be that we would be too stoned to notice?

This is the usual nonsense of anecdote masquerading as empirical peer test evidence. Funny how even the most diligent of searches on the NHS Choice (UK) or NIH (USA) health pages fails to turn up anything recommending hemp oil. The truth is that none of those over-qualified academics who have after all only trained for years in their chosen discipline can match the in-depth knowledge of some stoner whose medical qualification equals that of a Boy Scout with a First Aid Badge.

This is not to decry traditional medicine entirely. Yoga might have a questionable theoretical basis (my chakras have always been elusive....) but no-one discounts the benefits of regular practice on physical health and often depression and anxiety. Aspirin was derived from the bark of a tree used by traditional healers. These remedies have been exhaustively peer-reviewed over decades. We know that they work, that does not mean that every traditional remedy is worth anything at all.

If this nonsense worked do you think that Big Pharma would not have
a/ known about it years back
b/ patented it.

They have done their research, they have an army of full time scouts investigating traditional remedies, shaking down every shaman they can find in the hope of discovering another aspirin. Just how would they have missed an opportunity to sell it..........
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While that would apply to alternative or traditional remedies, it doesn't cover everything. For eg, a plant based diet has had some success in reversing cancer, type 2 diabetes and others, but big pharma would never promote that because they can't make money from it.

All this (including my post) does not help the OP, who had a specific question on if anybody had tried a particular treatment.
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A major cure for heart disease was derived from a plant from Thailand (note its also a poison in large enough dose). A number of such medicines came to us from herbal sources.

An interesting aspect of some of these miracle cures is that the placebo effect is very strong even with very tangible ailments such as knee replacement surgery. The question is how much is cure and how much is relief of symptoms. Sometimes its a question as to imponderable issues. Does the bogus cure provide some hope for awhile, some relief from the anxiety? Even if the "cure" is fatal does it matter more than a little time, perhaps even a merciful relief? When I was a youth I got a job driving an elderly family friend to Mexico and back in an RV. He went to Mexico to get a treatment for cancer that was banned in the US. I vaguely recall it as apricot cores. On the way back he died suddenly and very dramatically. A highway patrolman explained that the cyanide in the cores that gave him some symptomatic relief also killed him in seconds as multiple functions are shut down by the poison. On the whole the bogus cure didn't cause much harm on net..
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Hi Lord Jim

Yes, you may well be correct, regarding this substance and that there is no chance of it curing cancer, but when you've been diagnosed with stage 4 prostate cancer (incurable) and they tell you that you have 18 months to live, what have you got to lose ?. Wouldn't you also take a chance on this, if there is no other alternative ?.
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Apologies, meant to say "Hi JOHNLORD", rather than Lord Jim.
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Originally Posted by tonika View Post but when you've been diagnosed with stage 4 prostate cancer (incurable) and they tell you that you have 18 months to live, what have you got to lose ?.
True, but why spend the last 18 months in a frustratingly worthless endeavor of trying out different things and make the scammers rich, why not just accept that you are the lucky few ones who knows how long you will live and do everything that makes you happy, eat best of fruits, vegetables, nuts etc, go to spa and spend on travel to places you like... if the cancer has to disappear, it will be your best bet.

As to hemp oil, if hemp was as widespread as mustard and mustard as scarce as hemp, then mustard oil would have been the wonder cure. It is all about encashing on the exotic stuff, markets are full of these.
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Originally Posted by tonika View Post Hi Lord Jim

Yes, you may well be correct, regarding this substance and that there is no chance of it curing cancer, but when you've been diagnosed with stage 4 prostate cancer (incurable) and they tell you that you have 18 months to live, what have you got to lose ?. Wouldn't you also take a chance on this, if there is no other alternative ?.
If that is your situation, then I can only hope for the best for you. My father had prostate cancer, fortunately they caught it in time.

As you are going after alternative remedies, there was a mushroom doing the rounds a few years back, which "cured" cancer. Unfortunately I can't remember any more about it.

It was all the rage in Kerala.

Ps I am sorry, if I sounded harsh in my first post, I had not read your profile. My father got cancer at the age of 70/71. He is in the UK
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I like the literary reference..
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It is Strophanthus gratus, discovered accidentally by the explorer Livingston in Africa where it was used as a poison on arrows to immobilize animals before killing them (the poison itself does not kill) (maybe this is the remedy that you were referring to edwardseco, only it was not from Thailand, but from sub-saharan Africa?), until it became the standard medicine for congestive heart failure and angina. Until the 1970s emergency doctors (regular MDs) in Germany carried it in their doctor's bags to every patient for potential heart cases. Then other substances took over (Digitalis, which works in a manner contrary to Strophanthus, and therefore cannot prevent a heart attack at the time of its imminent occurrence), and it went out of use because of the difficulty and cost of extensive testing and proving. (It is more complex than you think Captain Bruce). This remedy has been proven in tens of thousands of heart cases in Germany, including in University studies, yet it went out of use, also probably because its use and application is too simple, and other therapy protocols are more promising for Big Pharma in terms of financial gain in the biggest field of deadly diseases and money making schemes with useless surgeries... An endless subject to talk about.
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I have a client who goes to Kerala for some traditional (herbal) medicine, which has to be prepared fresh and ingested for the same diagnosis as OP.
He seems to be doing okay for the past 8 months or so - I have asked him to get a bone scan done to check for the spread/ reduction in disease next time he comes for an assessment. (due in another 2 months time).
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