what kind of visa?

linwei66 · Jun 5th, 2008, 16:16

Hi there. I mentioned before in some posts that I'm coming to Kolkata this september. My sole purpose for coming is to study Bengali. However, I plan to study with tutors and part-time at (probably) Ramakrishna Mission. Does anyone know if I should apply for a tourist visa or for a student visa? I'm guessing Ramakrishna Mission wouldn't be able to help me get a student visa because it's not a university?

If I try to apply for a tourist visa, what do I put on the application as my purpose of journey? I will be staying in Kolkata for 6 months to a year. Looks a little shady if I say I'm just touring Kolkata for a year doesn't it?

Finally, if I do get a tourist visa, will I have any trouble renting a flat?

Thanks so much for any suggestions!
Lyndsey

Nick-H · Jun 5th, 2008, 16:56

You can get a student visa if you are studying at a 'givernment approved institution', not necessarily a university.

The Ramakrishna people should be able to advise you on this.

* sorry about the typo there, now corrected

zoltan · Jun 5th, 2008, 17:30

If it's not a "registered" educational institution, you are unlikely to get a student visa.

That being said, apply for the tourist visa. When you put West Bengal as the destination (rather than Kolkata), no one is likely to bat an eye.

Keep in mind, if your visa is only valid for 6 months (which it may be), you will have to leave the country and apply for another one in another place (eg. Bangladesh; Nepal; Thailand).

Unsure about renting a flat with a tourist visa. Only guessing but if you have the money and, you have a visa, no one is likely to be worried.

Cheers
Zoltan

stungan · Jun 5th, 2008, 17:42

Ni Hao Lyndsey! Welcome to IM!
You can take a look at the visa section of this forum. From my experience, I can say that quite a few friends have stayed in Calcutta for 6 months or more on tourist visa. As long as you stay away from formal university courses, I think you will be fine. If you do intend to go for proper university courses, then you'll need a students' visa.
So, with a normal tourist visa, IMHO, you can:

Learn Bengali at RK Mission
Take/give private tuitions
Rent an apartment

Also, since you are searching for apartments, RK Mission provides decent accommodation at their Golpark centre. I don't have any idea about the criteria, but you can talk to them.

linwei66 · Jun 5th, 2008, 18:28

Thanks a lot for the replies! Communication with RK mission has not exactly been easy.The principal keeps telling me to contact the secretary about housing but I've emailed the secretary multiple times and have gotten no replies. I'll keep calling and emailing. Persistence ought to work eventually!

stungan · Jun 5th, 2008, 21:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by linwei66

Communication with RK mission has not exactly been easy.

Welcome to India ... heh heh heh

Don't worry about that. I'll try see if I can talk to RKM over the weekend, and post the details here.

linwei66 · Jun 6th, 2008, 07:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by stungan

Welcome to India ... heh heh heh

Don't worry about that. I'll try see if I can talk to RKM over the weekend, and post the details here.

Thanks a lot. I appreciate the help!

stungan · Jun 10th, 2008, 01:18

Had a little chat with the RKM officials today. Their accommodation rules are simple:
If you are looking at short-term stays [say up to 20 days] you simply have to email/fax them your request.
In case you want to stay a bit more [a few months], then you first need to talk to their secretary, who's usually a senior monk of the order.
The telephone number is +91 33 2466 1235. Best time to call:
1300hrs-1430hrs [China time] or after 1830hrs [China time].

The room rates [per day] are:
INR 800 [non-AC; single]
INR 900 [AC; single]
INR 1200 [AC; double]

Rates include all meal.

Haylo · Jun 10th, 2008, 01:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick-H

You can get a tourist visa if you are studying at a 'givernment approved institution', not necessarily a university.

Do you mean student visa?

Nick-H · Jun 10th, 2008, 01:53

Well spotted, yes, of course I do,

I'll edit that post

Nick-H · Jun 10th, 2008, 01:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by stungan

Ni Hao Lyndsey! Welcome to IM!
You can take a look at the visa section of this forum. From my experience, I can say that quite a few friends have stayed in Calcutta for 6 months or more on tourist visa. As long as you stay away from formal university courses, I think you will be fine. If you do intend to go for proper university courses, then you'll need a students' visa.
So, with a normal tourist visa, IMHO, you can:

Learn Bengali at RK Mission
Take/give private tuitions
Rent an apartment

Also, since you are searching for apartments, RK Mission provides decent accommodation at their Golpark centre. I don't have any idea about the criteria, but you can talk to them.

A tourist visa will not entitle you to stay for more than six months. Doing so may result in your being arrested when you try to leave the country, and it may also result in your not being given a visa to visit India again in the future

Do not take liberties with immigration law.

stungan · Jun 10th, 2008, 02:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by stungan

From my experience, I can say that quite a few friends have stayed in Calcutta for 6 months or more on tourist visa.

Okay, a clarification here:
What I meant was all my friends who stayed for more than 6 months on a tourist visa usually slipped into Nepal or other countries to renew their visa.
They did not overstay their limit. However, those who had rented apartments paid the rent in advance and didn't face any problem when they came back.

Thanks Nick for spotting that

Nick-H · Jun 10th, 2008, 03:08

OK, so yes... they stayed for less than six months and got a new visa from Nepal. Your earlier post gave the impression that it was OK just to overstay, even though that was not what you meant.

That 'visa run' is something that has, indeed, been the normal way of getting to spend longer periods in the area. However, judging by reports from others, it is no longer the rubber-stamp job that it was: people are being refused, or given shorter-period visas.

linwei66 · Jun 10th, 2008, 07:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by stungan

The room rates are:
INR 800 [non-AC; single]
INR 900 [AC; single]
INR 1200 [AC; double]

Rates include all meal.

Stungan, thanks a lot for your help. Are those rates per month?day? I"m hoping its per month. Really appreciate the info!

zoltan · Jun 10th, 2008, 09:20

I think you'll find the rates are not monthly but daily.

Jun 5th, 2008, 16:16	#1
linwei66 bodmosh to the bone Join Date: May 2008 Location: Tianjin, China Posts: 27	what kind of visa? Hi there. I mentioned before in some posts that I'm coming to Kolkata this september. My sole purpose for coming is to study Bengali. However, I plan to study with tutors and part-time at (probably) Ramakrishna Mission. Does anyone know if I should apply for a tourist visa or for a student visa? I'm guessing Ramakrishna Mission wouldn't be able to help me get a student visa because it's not a university? If I try to apply for a tourist visa, what do I put on the application as my purpose of journey? I will be staying in Kolkata for 6 months to a year. Looks a little shady if I say I'm just touring Kolkata for a year doesn't it? Finally, if I do get a tourist visa, will I have any trouble renting a flat? Thanks so much for any suggestions! Lyndsey

Jun 5th, 2008, 16:56	#2
Nick-H Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 25,811	You can get a student visa if you are studying at a 'givernment approved institution', not necessarily a university. The Ramakrishna people should be able to advise you on this. * sorry about the typo there, now corrected __________________ . Just one member of the IndiaMike Mod Team Last edited by Nick-H : Jun 10th, 2008 at 01:54.

Jun 5th, 2008, 17:30	#3
zoltan Maha Guru Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 510	If it's not a "registered" educational institution, you are unlikely to get a student visa. That being said, apply for the tourist visa. When you put West Bengal as the destination (rather than Kolkata), no one is likely to bat an eye. Keep in mind, if your visa is only valid for 6 months (which it may be), you will have to leave the country and apply for another one in another place (eg. Bangladesh; Nepal; Thailand). Unsure about renting a flat with a tourist visa. Only guessing but if you have the money and, you have a visa, no one is likely to be worried. Cheers Zoltan __________________ India (and other) photos click here

Jun 5th, 2008, 17:42	#4
stungan If You Shit, You Are Materialistic Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Where the streets have no cows...we like our steaks only!!! Posts: 57	Ni Hao Lyndsey! Welcome to IM! You can take a look at the visa section of this forum. From my experience, I can say that quite a few friends have stayed in Calcutta for 6 months or more on tourist visa. As long as you stay away from formal university courses, I think you will be fine. If you do intend to go for proper university courses, then you'll need a students' visa. So, with a normal tourist visa, IMHO, you can: Learn Bengali at RK Mission Take/give private tuitions Rent an apartment Also, since you are searching for apartments, RK Mission provides decent accommodation at their Golpark centre. I don't have any idea about the criteria, but you can talk to them. __________________ Bhole Baba Paar Karega!!

Jun 10th, 2008, 01:18	#8
stungan If You Shit, You Are Materialistic Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Where the streets have no cows...we like our steaks only!!! Posts: 57	Had a little chat with the RKM officials today. Their accommodation rules are simple: If you are looking at short-term stays [say up to 20 days] you simply have to email/fax them your request. In case you want to stay a bit more [a few months], then you first need to talk to their secretary, who's usually a senior monk of the order. The telephone number is +91 33 2466 1235. Best time to call: 1300hrs-1430hrs [China time] or after 1830hrs [China time]. The room rates [per day] are: INR 800 [non-AC; single] INR 900 [AC; single] INR 1200 [AC; double] Rates include all meal. Last edited by stungan : Jun 10th, 2008 at 16:19.

Jun 5th, 2008, 18:28	#5
linwei66 bodmosh to the bone Join Date: May 2008 Location: Tianjin, China Posts: 27	Thanks a lot for the replies! Communication with RK mission has not exactly been easy.The principal keeps telling me to contact the secretary about housing but I've emailed the secretary multiple times and have gotten no replies. I'll keep calling and emailing. Persistence ought to work eventually!

Jun 10th, 2008, 01:53	#10
Nick-H Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 25,811	Well spotted, yes, of course I do, I'll edit that post

Jun 10th, 2008, 03:08	#13
Nick-H Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 25,811	OK, so yes... they stayed for less than six months and got a new visa from Nepal. Your earlier post gave the impression that it was OK just to overstay, even though that was not what you meant. That 'visa run' is something that has, indeed, been the normal way of getting to spend longer periods in the area. However, judging by reports from others, it is no longer the rubber-stamp job that it was: people are being refused, or given shorter-period visas.

Jun 10th, 2008, 09:20	#15
zoltan Maha Guru Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 510	I think you'll find the rates are not monthly but daily.

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