need all kinds of info; we're moving to Hyderabad soon

Katkoeta · Mar 20th, 2009, 20:02

Hello everybody,

My husband, I and our nearly 3 year old son will move to Hyderabad in the next 2-3 months, spend over 2 months in Delhi first though, also for my husbands work.
But since we will settle in Hyderabad, I am posting my questions here

I've read a lot of threads on this site, very usefull, but still have some questions, most more related to the city and not India in general, so here I go:

1. Is it common most appartments have only fans and no ac? Is a fan enough in the hot summer months or should we have ac's installed if there aren't any? (any prices?)

2. Is it easy to obtain a local driver's licence? My international one will expire soon and I will not travel back to my home country. I have a Dutch licence by the way and my husband an Egyptian.

3. Regarding vaccinations, I read that malaria pills aren't neccesary for this area, only take precaution like impregnated mosquito nets for the beds (can I buy impregnated ones there? And with the rigt density (hole size)?) and use of mosquito milk with high percentage of Deet in it. They say to use it 2 times a day on uncovered body parts. Now I was wondering, is that really what the people do? The milk will go very fast that way so I need to bring a lot. I read about Odomos 12% available in India, but is it possible to buy something with a higher Deet percentage in Hyderabad?

4. Is the registration at the FRO for foreigners the same as listing yourself in the population/admin register of a town council? Or is that a separate thing we will have to do also?

5. We have an Egyptian marriage certificate and our son has an Egyptian birth certificate (all 3 have Dutch nationality by the way and hubby and son also the Egyptian one).
Will we need this anywhere? I guess the Indian embassy here has to legalize it? And the documents need to be translated?

6. As everything is all on quite short notice, the vaccinations are a problem. Can't even get Thyphoid, TBC and DTP here in town! We might be able to get it in Cairo or Alexandria, but won't be there untill shortly before we fly to India.
So, are they easily to get in Hyderabad and/or Delhi?
This goes also for Hep A and B. (Hubby never took any of that)
Does anyone have an idea about the prices? And where best to go to (which hospital/pharmacie??)
Should I buy needles myself?

7. What about Rabies? I am doubting wether to take the vaccinations or not. Again, is it easily available in Hyderabad and/or Delhi? (I read also about fake ones circulating in Asia...).

This will do for now I guess

Hope someone can help me out! Your help is really appreciated!

capt_mahajan · Mar 21st, 2009, 00:41

My reply in colour within quote

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katkoeta

Hello everybody,

My husband, I and our nearly 3 year old son will move to Hyderabad in the next 2-3 months, spend over 2 months in Delhi first though, also for my husbands work.
But since we will settle in Hyderabad, I am posting my questions here

I've read a lot of threads on this site, very usefull, but still have some questions, most more related to the city and not India in general, so here I go:

1. Is it common most appartments have only fans and no ac? Is a fan enough in the hot summer months or should we have ac's installed if there aren't any? (any prices?)

Yes. Sometimes no fans either. Ac is preferable, as in finding an apartment in an area with few power outages [/I

2. Is it easy to obtain a local driver's licence? My international one will expire soon and I will not travel back to my home country. I have a Dutch licence by the way and my husband an Egyptian.

Reasonably simple to get an international driving licence, I think, but am not sure. There are other threads on indiamike on this.

4. Is the registration at the FRO for foreigners the same as listing yourself in the population/admin register of a town council? Or is that a separate thing we will have to do also?

[I]Separate. Can be done online in Hyderabad, according to newspaper reports[/i]5. We have an Egyptian marriage certificate and our son has an Egyptian birth certificate (all 3 have Dutch nationality by the way and hubby and son also the Egyptian one).
Will we need this anywhere? I guess the Indian embassy here has to legalize it? And the documents need to be translated?

[I]You may need your son's birth cert in case you are planning to admit him in a school. Other than that, I can't see where else you would really need that. Translations would be useful, I guess.[/i]
6. As everything is all on quite short notice, the vaccinations are a problem. Can't even get Thyphoid, TBC and DTP here in town! We might be able to get it in Cairo or Alexandria, but won't be there untill shortly before we fly to India.
So, are they easily to get in Hyderabad and/or Delhi?
This goes also for Hep A and B. (Hubby never took any of that)
Does anyone have an idea about the prices? And where best to go to (which hospital/pharmacie??)
Should I buy needles myself?

[I]Can get shots easily at a private hospital. No idea about current prices, but will probably be cheaper than many countries. Disposable needles always used at good hospitals, no need to buy [/i]
7. What about Rabies? I am doubting wether to take the vaccinations or not. Again, is it easily available in Hyderabad and/or Delhi? (I read also about fake ones circulating in Asia...).

This will do for now I guess

Hope someone can help me out! Your help is really appreciated!

Raghu.Kumar · Mar 22nd, 2009, 17:40

Hi Kat,

Though Captain has answered most of your queries i would like to add my bit.

Fans would not be sufficient to manage the weather in india especially until October. It gets pretty hot. Some apartments come with aircondtioners, and others dont. But it all depends on the negotiation with the landlord. Even if the ACs are not installed , you can ask the landlord to provide it as part of the utilities and include it in the rent.

Otherwise you may buy new ACs if your husband's company would provide a furnishing allowance or disturbance allowance.

Odomos is fine for application. Mosquito nets can be installed at all windows . You can also buy a couple of mosquito bats available in most stores. The bat can destroy 90 $ of the mosquitos inside the room.

You dont have to buy needles etc for the vaccinations. Nowadays all hospitals use only new needles and they open the pack in our presence and break it after use.

The FRRO is a mandatory exercise for all foreign nationals who move to India on work and have an employment visa (E Visa)It has to be done within 14 days of arrival in to India. The entire family has to be physically present during the registration. The process would take a few hours and there are agents who can help you for a fee. If you need help please let me know I can chek out and give you some leads. On completion of the FRRO a residence certificate would be given which would need to be renewed every year.

While applying for the Employment Visa, in your home country please ask your husband to mention the city in which he would be working, i guess it is Hyderabad. If it is just mentioned India and not the city, sometimes the immigration authorities would give trouble and also ensure that he gets an Employment Visa

You dont have to take Rabies in your home country. You can come here and decide.

Shall write more on hearing from you.

Regards, Raghu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katkoeta

Hello everybody,

My husband, I and our nearly 3 year old son will move to Hyderabad in the next 2-3 months, spend over 2 months in Delhi first though, also for my husbands work.
But since we will settle in Hyderabad, I am posting my questions here

I've read a lot of threads on this site, very usefull, but still have some questions, most more related to the city and not India in general, so here I go:

1. Is it common most appartments have only fans and no ac? Is a fan enough in the hot summer months or should we have ac's installed if there aren't any? (any prices?)

2. Is it easy to obtain a local driver's licence? My international one will expire soon and I will not travel back to my home country. I have a Dutch licence by the way and my husband an Egyptian.

3. Regarding vaccinations, I read that malaria pills aren't neccesary for this area, only take precaution like impregnated mosquito nets for the beds (can I buy impregnated ones there? And with the rigt density (hole size)?) and use of mosquito milk with high percentage of Deet in it. They say to use it 2 times a day on uncovered body parts. Now I was wondering, is that really what the people do? The milk will go very fast that way so I need to bring a lot. I read about Odomos 12% available in India, but is it possible to buy something with a higher Deet percentage in Hyderabad?

4. Is the registration at the FRO for foreigners the same as listing yourself in the population/admin register of a town council? Or is that a separate thing we will have to do also?

5. We have an Egyptian marriage certificate and our son has an Egyptian birth certificate (all 3 have Dutch nationality by the way and hubby and son also the Egyptian one).
Will we need this anywhere? I guess the Indian embassy here has to legalize it? And the documents need to be translated?

6. As everything is all on quite short notice, the vaccinations are a problem. Can't even get Thyphoid, TBC and DTP here in town! We might be able to get it in Cairo or Alexandria, but won't be there untill shortly before we fly to India.
So, are they easily to get in Hyderabad and/or Delhi?
This goes also for Hep A and B. (Hubby never took any of that)
Does anyone have an idea about the prices? And where best to go to (which hospital/pharmacie??)
Should I buy needles myself?

7. What about Rabies? I am doubting wether to take the vaccinations or not. Again, is it easily available in Hyderabad and/or Delhi? (I read also about fake ones circulating in Asia...).

This will do for now I guess

Hope someone can help me out! Your help is really appreciated!

edwardseco · Mar 22nd, 2009, 23:54

One challenge, you will need to get an internationaldrivers license in your home country. Will they do this by mail? Vaccines can a challenge at times to find in Hyderabad (not always). In any case the sooner the better so Cairo would be suggested. Hepatitis is a big yes! Malaria is found in Hyderabad. I experienced it there. Still, if you are going to be there longterm there isn't that much alternative to a net..

Katkoeta · Mar 23rd, 2009, 05:45

Thanks for all your help guys; really appreciate it

and it's been very helpfull.

About the registration at the FRO I have a question though. It has to be done within 14 days of arrival; we will be in Delhi then. But about 2 months later we will settle in Hyderabad, Delhi is just temporarily. I might not even join my husband to Delhi and go straight to Hyderabad later. It depends on a few thins wich we'll know in the next few days.
Just wonder if this makes the registration problematic or not, no idea how things work there government-wise

Edwardseco, I guess with Hepatitis is a big yes, you mainly mean hepatitis A as this has to do with hygiene? We can't be protected for B in time as the 3 injections have to be taken over a course of 7 months...

(Actually, I already got the complete Hep B serie in 2007, but the blood test later showed I didn't have enough antibodies. Just hope I will make them this time! And what if not? Plus we're thinking of trying for another child, so should I wait and take vaccinations for this first or not? How big is the risk for not being protected by it? India came in the picture a bit of a sudden, so not prepared well and my mind is just over flowing. Sorry to bother you all with that, but just writing it down already helps

)

Think I'll get some 30% Deet from Holland (my parents are coming to us in Egypt for a week), just for the nights, cause I understand the higher percentage, the longer it works. Wanna be protected the full night

For the rest I'll just rely on the Odomos. (And nets!)

Raghu, so I guess the mosquito windows are not standard in an apartment then? Well, we're defenitely gonna get those then! (not expensive I guess, just like here in Egypt. Cheap and easy to get)

My husband's work is arranging his work permit/visa and therefore my visa and our child's as well. So don't know if they wrote Hyderabad or just India in general...
Wonder as well how long it'll take before the visas are ready, but that's a side issue....we'll just have to wait and see!

Just checked my international driving licence and it'll expire beginning of September, so I can still drive around a bit. Holland doesn't send a new one by mail; you have to be present in person. By the way, the international document is just a translation in Holland; it's a separate document that you have to show alongside your real driving licence. One is not valid without the other. And my real one doesn't expire for many many more years.
So I guess I can obtain an Indian licence then later.

You've had Malaria Edwardseco? Did you realise that soon and so got quick and adequate treatment? Sick for long? Just wonder.

edwardseco · Mar 23rd, 2009, 06:18

Quote:

You've had Malaria Edwardseco? Did you realise that soon and so got quick and adequate treatment? Sick for long? Just wonder.

My sis in law is a reputable doctor so she did everything. My mother in law ran around trying to find something that I would eat. I don't know much about it. But, in 8 days I managed to doff 20 pounds so everyone was amazed when I returned. It interrupted some great travel plans I had. The added sting was my sis in law said it was only a mild case..

Raghu.Kumar · Mar 23rd, 2009, 15:32

Hi Kat,

Yes it is mandatory that the FRRO has to be completed within 14 days of arrival in to India. I suggest that you guys fly straight in to Hyderabad, complete the registration formalities and then move to Delhi. Your husband's employer in India should be able to arrange for the FRRO registration. If not there are relocation companies who would assist. Let me know if you want any leads.

You can take the initial doses of Hepatatis B in Egypt and continue the remaining dosage in India.If it remember right you would need to take three doses altogether.

Regarding the nets, some apartment have nets, some dont. In any case the life of the nets would be one year to 15 months, sometimes insects or squirrels would make hole in the nets over a period of time and then we would need to replace it.
However, the nets are not expensive. It starts at 15 Rs per sqfoot and goes up to 30 Rs. You may ask for Saint Gobain mosquito nets. Once you come here, just browze through the local papers and you would find numerous advertisements in the classifieds column. You can also also the landlord to provide it, if he is willing to.

YOu can get a International Driving License here. There would be local driving schools who would be able to assist you for a fee. Again the classifieds would come in handy.

How about moving your goods?

Do Let me know if you need any other info.

Regards, Raghu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katkoeta

Thanks for all your help guys; really appreciate it

and it's been very helpfull.

About the registration at the FRO I have a question though. It has to be done within 14 days of arrival; we will be in Delhi then. But about 2 months later we will settle in Hyderabad, Delhi is just temporarily. I might not even join my husband to Delhi and go straight to Hyderabad later. It depends on a few thins wich we'll know in the next few days.
Just wonder if this makes the registration problematic or not, no idea how things work there government-wise

Edwardseco, I guess with Hepatitis is a big yes, you mainly mean hepatitis A as this has to do with hygiene? We can't be protected for B in time as the 3 injections have to be taken over a course of 7 months...

(Actually, I already got the complete Hep B serie in 2007, but the blood test later showed I didn't have enough antibodies. Just hope I will make them this time! And what if not? Plus we're thinking of trying for another child, so should I wait and take vaccinations for this first or not? How big is the risk for not being protected by it? India came in the picture a bit of a sudden, so not prepared well and my mind is just over flowing. Sorry to bother you all with that, but just writing it down already helps

)

Think I'll get some 30% Deet from Holland (my parents are coming to us in Egypt for a week), just for the nights, cause I understand the higher percentage, the longer it works. Wanna be protected the full night

For the rest I'll just rely on the Odomos. (And nets!)

Raghu, so I guess the mosquito windows are not standard in an apartment then? Well, we're defenitely gonna get those then! (not expensive I guess, just like here in Egypt. Cheap and easy to get)

My husband's work is arranging his work permit/visa and therefore my visa and our child's as well. So don't know if they wrote Hyderabad or just India in general...
Wonder as well how long it'll take before the visas are ready, but that's a side issue....we'll just have to wait and see!

Just checked my international driving licence and it'll expire beginning of September, so I can still drive around a bit. Holland doesn't send a new one by mail; you have to be present in person. By the way, the international document is just a translation in Holland; it's a separate document that you have to show alongside your real driving licence. One is not valid without the other. And my real one doesn't expire for many many more years.
So I guess I can obtain an Indian licence then later.

You've had Malaria Edwardseco? Did you realise that soon and so got quick and adequate treatment? Sick for long? Just wonder.

Katkoeta · Mar 25th, 2009, 04:17

We know now my husband has to be in Delhi around the 20th of April and will stay there for 1 to 1,5 months, all depending.
It doesn't really work out for me and my son to join this period, so we will go straight to Hyderabad later.
I've found a mailadres of the FRRO in Delhi (that's where my husband then has to register) and sent them a mail this morning, asking if it's easy for him to change address later to Hyderabad (I guess so, looking at the info on the Bureau of Immigration website), plus if it's a problem if we are not all there at the same time when my husband comes to register.
Hope to get a positive answer! Otherwise we first have to fly all to Hyderabad, I'll stay behind there while my hubby goes straight to Delhi.

We are not taking a lot of goods with us, as it's not paid for by the employer or something. So it's gonna cost us a lot of money, and to send over unexpensive things, which are easy to replace ayway.. And we have no big stuff like furnitures either.
We will be having extra weight on the flight I'm sure, but we'll try to keep it to a minimum, just taking the necessary stuff.

About mosquito nets over the beds, I read Mesh (holes/mm2) is very important and that it's maybe not easy to be found in India; at least that is what the shops in Holland say..

That true? In Holland I see them with a mesh of 365 (1,5mm x 1,5mm), while you can also find of 195 etc. Big difference indeed...
Plus the ones of 365 are impregnated and last with daily use for 4-5 years, incl. 20 washings.

Mar 20th, 2009, 20:02	#1
Katkoeta rookie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Delhi Posts: 107	need all kinds of info; we're moving to Hyderabad soon Hello everybody, My husband, I and our nearly 3 year old son will move to Hyderabad in the next 2-3 months, spend over 2 months in Delhi first though, also for my husbands work. But since we will settle in Hyderabad, I am posting my questions here I've read a lot of threads on this site, very usefull, but still have some questions, most more related to the city and not India in general, so here I go: 1. Is it common most appartments have only fans and no ac? Is a fan enough in the hot summer months or should we have ac's installed if there aren't any? (any prices?) 2. Is it easy to obtain a local driver's licence? My international one will expire soon and I will not travel back to my home country. I have a Dutch licence by the way and my husband an Egyptian. 3. Regarding vaccinations, I read that malaria pills aren't neccesary for this area, only take precaution like impregnated mosquito nets for the beds (can I buy impregnated ones there? And with the rigt density (hole size)?) and use of mosquito milk with high percentage of Deet in it. They say to use it 2 times a day on uncovered body parts. Now I was wondering, is that really what the people do? The milk will go very fast that way so I need to bring a lot. I read about Odomos 12% available in India, but is it possible to buy something with a higher Deet percentage in Hyderabad? 4. Is the registration at the FRO for foreigners the same as listing yourself in the population/admin register of a town council? Or is that a separate thing we will have to do also? 5. We have an Egyptian marriage certificate and our son has an Egyptian birth certificate (all 3 have Dutch nationality by the way and hubby and son also the Egyptian one). Will we need this anywhere? I guess the Indian embassy here has to legalize it? And the documents need to be translated? 6. As everything is all on quite short notice, the vaccinations are a problem. Can't even get Thyphoid, TBC and DTP here in town! We might be able to get it in Cairo or Alexandria, but won't be there untill shortly before we fly to India. So, are they easily to get in Hyderabad and/or Delhi? This goes also for Hep A and B. (Hubby never took any of that) Does anyone have an idea about the prices? And where best to go to (which hospital/pharmacie??) Should I buy needles myself? 7. What about Rabies? I am doubting wether to take the vaccinations or not. Again, is it easily available in Hyderabad and/or Delhi? (I read also about fake ones circulating in Asia...). This will do for now I guess Hope someone can help me out! Your help is really appreciated!

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edwardseco Maha Guru Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Land that shakes and bakes. Posts: 5,845	One challenge, you will need to get an internationaldrivers license in your home country. Will they do this by mail? Vaccines can a challenge at times to find in Hyderabad (not always). In any case the sooner the better so Cairo would be suggested. Hepatitis is a big yes! Malaria is found in Hyderabad. I experienced it there. Still, if you are going to be there longterm there isn't that much alternative to a net..

Mar 23rd, 2009, 05:45	#5
Katkoeta rookie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Delhi Posts: 107	Thanks for all your help guys; really appreciate it and it's been very helpfull. About the registration at the FRO I have a question though. It has to be done within 14 days of arrival; we will be in Delhi then. But about 2 months later we will settle in Hyderabad, Delhi is just temporarily. I might not even join my husband to Delhi and go straight to Hyderabad later. It depends on a few thins wich we'll know in the next few days. Just wonder if this makes the registration problematic or not, no idea how things work there government-wise Edwardseco, I guess with Hepatitis is a big yes, you mainly mean hepatitis A as this has to do with hygiene? We can't be protected for B in time as the 3 injections have to be taken over a course of 7 months... (Actually, I already got the complete Hep B serie in 2007, but the blood test later showed I didn't have enough antibodies. Just hope I will make them this time! And what if not? Plus we're thinking of trying for another child, so should I wait and take vaccinations for this first or not? How big is the risk for not being protected by it? India came in the picture a bit of a sudden, so not prepared well and my mind is just over flowing. Sorry to bother you all with that, but just writing it down already helps ) Think I'll get some 30% Deet from Holland (my parents are coming to us in Egypt for a week), just for the nights, cause I understand the higher percentage, the longer it works. Wanna be protected the full night For the rest I'll just rely on the Odomos. (And nets!) Raghu, so I guess the mosquito windows are not standard in an apartment then? Well, we're defenitely gonna get those then! (not expensive I guess, just like here in Egypt. Cheap and easy to get) My husband's work is arranging his work permit/visa and therefore my visa and our child's as well. So don't know if they wrote Hyderabad or just India in general... Wonder as well how long it'll take before the visas are ready, but that's a side issue....we'll just have to wait and see! Just checked my international driving licence and it'll expire beginning of September, so I can still drive around a bit. Holland doesn't send a new one by mail; you have to be present in person. By the way, the international document is just a translation in Holland; it's a separate document that you have to show alongside your real driving licence. One is not valid without the other. And my real one doesn't expire for many many more years. So I guess I can obtain an Indian licence then later. You've had Malaria Edwardseco? Did you realise that soon and so got quick and adequate treatment? Sick for long? Just wonder.

Mar 25th, 2009, 04:17	#8
Katkoeta rookie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Delhi Posts: 107	We know now my husband has to be in Delhi around the 20th of April and will stay there for 1 to 1,5 months, all depending. It doesn't really work out for me and my son to join this period, so we will go straight to Hyderabad later. I've found a mailadres of the FRRO in Delhi (that's where my husband then has to register) and sent them a mail this morning, asking if it's easy for him to change address later to Hyderabad (I guess so, looking at the info on the Bureau of Immigration website), plus if it's a problem if we are not all there at the same time when my husband comes to register. Hope to get a positive answer! Otherwise we first have to fly all to Hyderabad, I'll stay behind there while my hubby goes straight to Delhi. We are not taking a lot of goods with us, as it's not paid for by the employer or something. So it's gonna cost us a lot of money, and to send over unexpensive things, which are easy to replace ayway.. And we have no big stuff like furnitures either. We will be having extra weight on the flight I'm sure, but we'll try to keep it to a minimum, just taking the necessary stuff. About mosquito nets over the beds, I read Mesh (holes/mm2) is very important and that it's maybe not easy to be found in India; at least that is what the shops in Holland say.. That true? In Holland I see them with a mesh of 365 (1,5mm x 1,5mm), while you can also find of 195 etc. Big difference indeed... Plus the ones of 365 are impregnated and last with daily use for 4-5 years, incl. 20 washings.