Relocation in Goa and Schools...

mapleleaf

I checked the web site for properties and hit a road block since I'm an India neophyte. How should I interpret 18,93,000 R? Is it 1 million 893 thousand??

shashank.aggarwal

Yes !! simply readjust the commons..1,893,000.

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JOGESH

Goancanuck,

hahahaha! total dump, huh? Well the I will definitely stay in panjim or margao - I've been to Onda and Pissurlem ad the roads as you say are not highways - but i guess it makes more sense for me to make the commute than for the kids to go to school!

I was trying to put up the factory in VERNA but the prices are exorbitant and very few plots available - none that fit our needs. there are not that many more industrial areas that are as nicely built up, so we chose what was available in pissurlem where the GOA IDC has just opened up the plots.

do you know of anybody who might have a minimum of 45,000m2 of industrial land with good water and electricity facilities for the factory - i dont mind buying the land (with GOA IDC it is a 99yr lease).

thanks for all your input in any case!

regards

GoanCanuck

Let me find out if there is something available closer to Margao.

JOGESH

GoanCanuck -

thanks!1 i appreciate the help! might I add that i ahve already paid a down payment towards the GOA IC land but would be willing to lose it if we found something better.

Our consultant has a meeting with the CHAIRMAN of GOA IDC tomorrow where I am sure "further demands" may be laid out. All other documentation has been submitted and ready for allocation of plots. Hence, as you can imagine, the time frame for finding a nice plot at a reasonable rate is very small indeed.

I hate to rush you, but time is of the essence.

i look forward to hearing from you.

Thanks and many regards
Jogesh

birds

Hi Jogesh,

Sorry for the delayed response, I had guests this weekend, you will get lots of those when living in Goa .

A candy factory in Honda is quite something. Will you be able to get sufficient staff over there? There is a lot of talk about the need to create employment, most by the government. If you talk to company owners or agricultural cultivators there are also lots of complains about the shortage of staff, at all levels. If you want more information about this let me know.

By the way, I guess you are aware of Perfetti?

Panjim is a nice place to live. We have a friends who lived in Assagao for about two years but all the bugs, snakes, frogs and other living creatures it drove his wife mad. She would only stay in Goa if they would move to a 'western' type house without wildlife.

They now live in Panjim and are very happy. Although not my cup of tea, they have a very nice modern house which they rent for Rs.25,000. The kids can walk to school and their mum is happy to be able to shop without taking the car.

JOGESH

hi birds -

Hope you had a great weekend!! Guests can be either a lot of fun, or somewhat of a nuisance..hope yours were the former type!

i was aware of some difficulties regarding staff and labour, but am not really sure how bad it really is! I would like to take you up on your offer of providing me with more info regarding this topic. Our factory is going to be very capital intensive since we have booked new machines from germany and holland - the ones we have in the spanish plant are now outdated - and we have over 350 people on the payroll. In goa, we hope to not surpass the 50/60 people mark, including professionals as well as manual/unskilled labor.

i am very much aware of perfetti and the products they manufacture in India - we did a full fledged market analysis before taking the decision to launch in India. We hope to create some fierce competition for them in the years to come!!

i am so glad you gave me your views on Assagao - there is a very nice complex xoming up and my wife fell in love with it but I wanted to know what the area was like. There are other places that i have been looking into, preferably near Panjim BELMONT is another development but a little beyond my budget at 2.5CR for a villa, and then there is ALDEIA DE GOA in a site furnished by GoanCanuck - which I have requested information for.

If you know of anything nice - and moder and western, like your friend's house, please let me know cos I am highly interested!

What do you do for aliving by the way?

Jogesh

shashank.aggarwal

Hey Jogesh, I can help you with hiring the professionals when you need them !! Ofcourse for a fees

JOGESH

hi shashank,

I am more than willing to pay you fees for your services - we all work for aliving - but what is your actual field of work and where are you based?

i would think it would be easier to work with a company based out of Goa, and with someone in this kind of professional field.

let me know!1

regards
jogesh

shashank.aggarwal

Hmm..I run an Executive search firm out of Delhi...but the current market scenario and ease of communication has ensured that there are no 'local' search firms..its Pan India and sometimes international too. Secondly its generally next to impossible to fill the positions with local talent pool itself..its essential to hire people from other regions of the country..so you have to be prepared for that...

Local placement services can help you with Blue collar people..

anjuna mark

I was commuting from Anjuna [next to Asagao] to Ponda daily for a few months; aside from the time and expense, don’t forget to factor in the danger of traveling a lot of kilometers under such conditions.
If you can, I would [like others have already] recommend finding a site near where your [white collar] staff, you and your family want to live.
Goancanuck is quite accurate with distances and road conditions.
Anecdote;
I was doing the 50km in an hour twice every day. Finally, my attention strayed at the same time as a cow.
I had a choice; hit the cow or a minivan. I decided the cow looked cheaper.
As I peeled myself off the road, a bunch of locals ran out to help.
“How’s the cow?” I asked.
“Don’t worry! The cow is fine, better than you are!” a man said.
I looked at my mangled motorcycle.
“It was foreign” I said sadly
Not missing a beat, the stranger filled in the punch line; “Now it has become Indian!!” he said.

GoanCanuck

Yes a very very important point. The more time you spend on the road in Goa, the greater the chances of you having an accident. A close friend of mine lost his brother and his brother's wife to a terrible road accident. The roads in Goa ARE LETHAL.

GoanCanuck

I gave this matter some thought and I feel that you should ask GIDC to give you a place in Madkaim which is a newer industrial estate not too far from Margao. I do not know the exact price of the land in this area but it is most definitely cheaper than Verna.
http://www.goaidc.com/madkaim.html

Are you in Goa at the moment? I shall be there in Goa at the end of the month and I am more than willing to provide you whatever assistance I can.

As far as housing is concerned, I shall advise you not to buy a pre-built bungalow or detached house. You can get better value by buying a plot and getting the house made to your specifications. Of course if you are buying an apartment then it is another story but therec again the quality varies greatly depending on the developer.

JOGESH

Hi GoanCanuck,

Thanks for the advice - i have sent an urgent e-mail to our consultant in Goa to inquire into the possibility of aquiring similar land in MADKAIM. However to the best of my memory, when I was last in Goa and met on various occassions with the GM and CHAIRMAN of GOA IDC, even after much inquiries and persistence, they insisted that there was no other plot of similar charecteristcs to those selected in PISSURLEM.

I cant thank you enough for all th assistance provided already and your offer to further assist me in Goa itself. Unfortunately I wont be there before early december, unless we are called in to sig the purchase of the land anytime before that, at which point, it would be a bit late to look fr plots of course.

Regarding the housing - I understand the option you propose must be much more rewarding in the long run, but I am not sure of the difficulties in pricuring licenses, building difficulties and the general everyday follow up that may be required for such a project for a guy like myself who lives out of GOA.

I am however, looking into the option of maybe renting a villa/apt for the first year till I get myself properly familiarised with GOA and its environs..at which point I could look into constructing my own house!

It is kind of scary what you and anjuna mark have written about the dangers of drving to work everyday - I sincerely hope its not as dangerous as you make it out to be... what if I have no option but to settle for PISSURLEM and PANJIM??

GoanCanuck

This actually a political gimmick. The GIDC is run by the state government and the ruling party makes sure that new industries are allocated to those industrial estates which fall in the constituencies represented by the MLA's of the ruling party.

Honda happens to be represented by the MLA from the ruling party while Madkaim happens to be falling in an area represented by an opposition MLA.

That would be a very bad situation. If you have no option but to travel this distance everyday you can reduce the risk by,

1) buying a large SUV. A Landcruiser would be the best.

2) Never drive it to work. Always use a good local driver who is familiar with the local road conditions. Driving a vehicle when you are tired after a long days work can and does lead to driving errors.

Better to be safe than sory.