Moving to Goa; Help and Advice required !


#16 Jan 29th, 2007, 01:10
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Your first problem will be getting anything other than a six month visa for India!! Even a years tourist visa is difficult for UK citizens!!

Plus the six mont visa starts from date of purchase not the date you enter India!!

I wish you luck in all this but I suggest getting a book about emigrating may be a good idea. Moving to India is just the same as emigrating anywhere else it isn't desigend to be easy!!
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Ok, so is it difficult to rent somewhere for six months? How complicated is it to extend your visa for another six months ?
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Dawn, what have you been doing in the time you spent there?

Why do you want to move to Goa?

Do your kids want to move to Goa?

Do your kids fully understand what moving to Goa would mean for them? Do You?

Are you aware of the anti-foreiner feeling amongst some of the locals?


Your posts seem to suggest you had a dream last night about moving to Goa.
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Indeed, you won't get a one-year visa --- you'll get a six month visa valid from the date of issue.

You'll see from those threads I pointed you too that it seems to have become more-or-less impossible for a foreigner on a tourist visa to achieve that residency status.

Bottom line is that India is not immigration friendly. But then, with 1/6th of the world's population, there is no reason it should be!
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There is no facility for extending a tourist visas within India. You will have to fly to Sri Lanka, Thailand, or go to Bangladesh, Nepal or Pakistan and ask for another tourist visa at the India Embassy, which they are under no compunction to give you, though they probably will!!

Renting for six months won't be a problem but you won't get the same rental rates as you would, were you taking it for the whole year. Though the differences shouldn't be too big!

I agree with Steven, I think you should think long and hard about this!!
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Originally Posted by Dawn Elizabeth Ok, so is it difficult to rent somewhere for six months?
You can do that.
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How complicated is it to extend your visa for another six months ?
It is impossible.

Dawn... I have pointed you to two pertinent threads.

All the visa stuff is available on this site and from the formal and official Indian sites (start with your High Commission London site).

Until you do your homework --- it is a waste of time you asking these questions.
#22 Jan 29th, 2007, 01:29
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Originally Posted by Dawn Elizabeth Am thinking about moving there permanantly in about a year and plan to spend the next year thinking/planning etc.
Sorry to disappoint you but it is not possible for you to move permanently to Goa. There is no category under which you could live in Goa indefinitely.
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Even my status here (I'm married to an Indian citizen) is not permanent. I have, effectively, a 15-year visa and a 5-year residents permit. Not permanent.
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I'm going to join the chorus of wet blankets here, and if my comments seem harsh to the OP I'm sorry, but being realistic now could save a lot of disappointments and even disasters later.

Dawn Elizabeth, what you are talking about is immigrating to India. Ask yourself how realistic your plan would be if instead of India you thought you could just up sticks and move permanently to, say, the United States. Forget about it! I can understand having a fantasy about living in India -- after all, a lot of us non-Indians on this site, India-philes that we are, have had the same fantasy. But it never ceases to amaze me that, when people get a bee in their bonnet that they'd like to move to India permanently, they seem completely oblivious to the fact that India is a sovereign nation with immigration standards like all others I'm aware of. In fact, India has very stringent immigration policies, and unless you marry an Indian citizen, there's probably no way you can qualify for any sort of visa other than a tourist visa. And as everyone has told you, above, a tourist visa does not permit a long-term stay. You cannot stay longer than 180 days at a time, you cannot renew or extend the tourist visa in India, and if you leave India and apply for another tourist visa, you may not be given one -- and particularly if you seem to be applying for back-to-back tourist visas, you're likely to be denied. See, for example, the visa information on the website for the Indian embassy in Kathmandu
You don't tell us what kind of work you do, but you can't get an employment visa unless you have an actual job in India, and the requirements for a business visa are also specialized and stringent, and you can't qualify one simply on the basis of being, say, a self-employed writer who wants to work in India.

Frankly, I don't think you've thought this through at all, particularly since your desire to make this move is based only a a few short holidays in Goa. I think it's fortunate you came here to make some inquiries, though, before you got too deeply invested in this fantasy, since I think it's doomed to remain only that: a fantasy. I'm aware of others who went off half-cocked (and sometimes against advice like you're getting here) and have been burned. Don't be one of them.
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Thanks dzibead, wise words. At this stage we are trying to gather information, are planning a six week trip in the summer, and trying to work out if it is actually possible to emmigrate to India from England. We haven't just sold the house and jumped on a plane - in fact far from it. We are trying to gather as much information as possible and to weigh up all the pros and cons of living in a culture as different from the home counties as you can get ! I dont have a job in India, as I said, but I can support the family and will continue to be able to do so either from here in kent or in Goa.
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To chime in with Dzibead and the others, merely being self-employed doesn't necessarily qualify you to legally stay in any given country. So depending on that country's stipulations doing your work under the counter may be the only solution, with all that implies regarding your (non-) status. From all I've read I doubt if India accepts this as a qualification to stay (in fact I'm pretty sure it doesn't), or I imagine there'd be a lot more expat freelancers out there.

I agree you have some serious studying to do; the suggestion of getting some books on emigration, also regarding culture shock and especially effects on children etc., seems like a very good idea. Doing the visa run aka border hop every 6 months keeping your fingers crossed may be OK on your own, but having four kids in tow would make it a very different story.

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Originally Posted by Dawn Elizabeth are planning a six week trip in the summer, and trying to work out if it is actually possible to emmigrate to India from England.
As you've been cautioned, there seem to be plenty of folks out there more than willing to tell you what you want to hear and that it's perfectly alright (yes ma'am, buy the house now etc.) Be careful and keep your wits about you.
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This may be a summary of earlier posts, but, as they say in the US, an Immigration101 class:

A few questions I would ask before considering immmigrating to any country, or even planning to stay a year or two before deciding:

-Under what immigration laws am I eligible to live there
-Am I entitled to work, or run a business or even net based
work. It may be possible to do the last one, but is it legal?
-How will I extend my right to stay in that country?
-Is the country immigrant friendly? If not, the laws may not change to my advantage in a hurry.
-Am I and my family comfortable with the culture?
-Is the culture comfortable with us?
-Do I have sufficient knowledge of what this involves?
-Education? Goa, for example, is not great with this.
-Costs? including visa renewal travel costs.
-Medical facilities and costs?
-and, finally, am I confusing a tourists experience with a residents one?
#28 Jan 29th, 2007, 09:57
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Originally Posted by Dawn Elizabeth Thanks dzibead, wise words. At this stage we are trying to gather information, are planning a six week trip in the summer,
That is a good idea, but six weeks in the same place will telly you a bit about what it is like to live here; six weeks touring is just a long holiday.
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and trying to work out if it is actually possible to emmigrate to India from England.
It isn't. Sorry but... it may be tough for foreigners to get to live in, eg, USA or UK, but at least there is a mechanism. At least you can fill in a form saying, hey! I want to live in your country! There is absolutely no such mechanism in India!

So... unless you start looking for one of the very few Indians who wants to marry a foreigner without leaving India...
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School

In case you do move to Goa: Sharada Mandir in Miramar/Panjim is supposed to be a good school. Does anyone have more infos about that school?

Best of luck!

Izzbel

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