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Old Dec 21st, 2008, 19:32   #1
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Experienced UK recruiter seeking to relocate to Bangalore

Hello everyone, I am an experienced recruitment Manager/Director with about 20 years international experience and I am now seriously looking at opportunities to relocate from the UK to Bangalore with my wife. We both have British nationality.

I have been following various threads on this excellent site for a short while and I am sure that some of you will be able to assist me with advice on a few points that I have:

Job boards? I have looked on Monster and Naukri and several companies' own sites and I have applied for a few positions. Does anyone know of anywhere else that I can look to find Management/Director level opportunities in recruitment or Talent Management? Or does anyone know of a possible opportunity? I am keen to base myself in Bangalore but I am happy to travel anywhere in Asia Pac on business, or indeed worldwide.

I plan on being in Bangalore w/c 11th January 2009 to look at the job market in a bit more detail, if anyone can assist me with advice or any introductions?

I have a few other questions:

Can anyone clarify how salaries are advertised? it all appears confusing, is this usually a monthly or yearly amount? and is it shown nett of taxes?

I know everything is significantly less than in the UK, where I earn around £100,000 base; what sort of salary would give me a similar lifestyle in Bangalore taking into acccount the cost of living etc? I do not have any school age children and would be looking initially to rent a reasonable apartment in a safe and pleasant area.

Re visas- When I visit in January 2009, I shall only be looking at companies and having interviews- not doing any actual work or earning money for anything, so am I right in assuming that I am ok on a normal tourist visa? I see that this is valid for 180 days, if I have to revisit in a few weeks time for 2nd or 3rd interviews, do I need to reapply for another visa? or does this initial one cover me for multiple entries during the 180 days?

One final question, if I am successful in securing suitable employment, is the work visa only applicable to that particular employer or would I be able to move companies, should the 1st one not work out?

A lot of questions I know, but anyone's advice would be gratefully received!
Regards,
Michael
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Old Dec 21st, 2008, 20:53   #2
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I am now seriously looking at opportunities to relocate from the UK to Bangalore with my wife.
For an employee to qualify for an employment visa in India, their employer has to be able to say that they cannot fill the post locally. There may be a shortage of recruiters, but I'd be surprised. Presumably as you are planning to work in recruitment in India you have looked into this stuff already.

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Re visas <snip> only be looking at companies and having interviews <snip> am I right in assuming that I am ok on a normal tourist visa?
Technically, I don't think you can apply for a tourist visa in order to search for work, though it's highly unlikely that there is any way anyone would find out what you were doing.

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I see that this is valid for 180 days, if I have to revisit in a few weeks time for 2nd or 3rd interviews, do I need to reapply for another visa? or does this initial one cover me for multiple entries during the 180 days?
Tourist visas issued in the UK to UK citizens are valid for six months (or occasionally one year) from the date of issue, and are multiple entry. The 180 days is the maximum length of time you can stay in India in any one trip, so you'll be fine for revisiting for interviews.

Then again, if a third trip is necessary within a few weeks, an immigration official is likely to question why a tourist is making these long and expensive trips on a tourist visa - this is well outside the usual pattern of holidaymakers and they can refuse entry to anyone they think is not a bona fide tourist, even if they do have a visa.

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is the work visa only applicable to that particular employer
Yes, and if you lose your job or leave the company, you cannot apply for another employment visa in India, you have to move back to the UK and start the process again.
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Old Dec 21st, 2008, 21:26   #3
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hey its better to start a ofshore office in india

HI there, welll after knowing your situation, i would suggest you inspite of doing a job fo a company in india, its better option to open a office here in india with the help of one local indian and you keep visit.cause the salary you will get in india is not enough for you and here in india now most companies are cutting cost and the first people they give pink slip is the people who are of higher salary zone. so its better to have a office in india, and may be in hyderabad or in banglore.

its an idea.
hope it help you.
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Hello everyone, I am an experienced recruitment Manager/Director with about 20 years international experience and I am now seriously looking at opportunities to relocate from the UK to Bangalore with my wife. We both have British nationality.

I have been following various threads on this excellent site for a short while and I am sure that some of you will be able to assist me with advice on a few points that I have:

Job boards? I have looked on Monster and Naukri and several companies' own sites and I have applied for a few positions. Does anyone know of anywhere else that I can look to find Management/Director level opportunities in recruitment or Talent Management? Or does anyone know of a possible opportunity? I am keen to base myself in Bangalore but I am happy to travel anywhere in Asia Pac on business, or indeed worldwide.

I plan on being in Bangalore w/c 11th January 2009 to look at the job market in a bit more detail, if anyone can assist me with advice or any introductions?

I have a few other questions:

Can anyone clarify how salaries are advertised? it all appears confusing, is this usually a monthly or yearly amount? and is it shown nett of taxes?

I know everything is significantly less than in the UK, where I earn around £100,000 base; what sort of salary would give me a similar lifestyle in Bangalore taking into acccount the cost of living etc? I do not have any school age children and would be looking initially to rent a reasonable apartment in a safe and pleasant area.

Re visas- When I visit in January 2009, I shall only be looking at companies and having interviews- not doing any actual work or earning money for anything, so am I right in assuming that I am ok on a normal tourist visa? I see that this is valid for 180 days, if I have to revisit in a few weeks time for 2nd or 3rd interviews, do I need to reapply for another visa? or does this initial one cover me for multiple entries during the 180 days?

One final question, if I am successful in securing suitable employment, is the work visa only applicable to that particular employer or would I be able to move companies, should the 1st one not work out?

A lot of questions I know, but anyone's advice would be gratefully received!
Regards,
Michael
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Can anyone clarify how salaries are advertised? it all appears confusing, is this usually a monthly or yearly amount? and is it shown nett of taxes
Usually, salaries are advertised on an annual cost to company basis. Taxes are your problem.


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what sort of salary would give me a similar lifestyle in Bangalore taking into acccount the cost of living etc? I do not have any school age children and would be looking initially to rent a reasonable apartment in a safe and pleasant area.
An expensive expat lifestyle can cost over 100000 rupees a month without rent - and more, too. Somebody posted here with a figure many times that amount, but I thought that was a bit overdone. Allowance may have to be made for setting up costs. Apartments/houses are usually unfurnished; furnished ones cost extra.

An upper Indian middle class lifestyle will cost less than half that amount, and even lower, considering no education expenses.

Suggest you browse the Bangalore threads on indiamike- and the expat section- for a feel of things.
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Old Dec 21st, 2008, 23:41   #5
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Yes, and if you lose your job or leave the company, you cannot apply for another employment visa in India, you have to move back to the UK and start the process again.
You don't have to move back, per se, you just have to fly back and apply for a new visa. I've switched jobs here and found it pretty straightforward (although an expensive nuisance). However, I came alone...might be a bit more bureaucratic with a family. I assume your family would come in on X visas (entry visas). I'm not sure, but they might also have to fly back to get new X visas linked to your new E visa.

This is assuming that you retain an address or some sort of residency in the UK, perhaps with a family member there. Without a UK address, a job change might take longer.

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An expensive expat lifestyle can cost over 100000 rupees a month without rent - and more, too. Somebody posted here with a figure many times that amount, but I thought that was a bit overdone. Allowance may have to be made for setting up costs. Apartments/houses are usually unfurnished; furnished ones cost extra.

Thanks, this gives me some idea so, what would 100000INR a month equate to in Lacs? they still confuse me
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1,00,000 = INR 1 lack [] lac or lakh.



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1,00,000 = 1 lack [] lac or lakh.



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thanks, so I should be looking to nett a minimum of 12 lakhs a month after tax and housing costs?I am still researching tax deductions etc, can anyone give me an idea of this, or what gross salary should I should be looking for to nett a sufficient amount?
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i have absolutely no idea on thataone michael
the captain will be back tomorrow to post the answer - and there will be others who'll pitch in for the same by and by.



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Old Dec 22nd, 2008, 01:47   #10
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You don't have to move back, per se, you just have to fly back and apply for a new visa. I've switched jobs here and found it pretty straightforward (although an expensive nuisance). However, I came alone...might be a bit more bureaucratic with a family. I assume your family would come in on X visas (entry visas). I'm not sure, but they might also have to fly back to get new X visas linked to your new E visa.

This is assuming that you retain an address or some sort of residency in the UK, perhaps with a family member there. Without a UK address, a job change might take longer.
Thanks, hopefully it won't be necessary, but as I don't know any of the local companies, I thought I should check. It will just be my wife and myself moving over, and yes we will still have family living in the UK, should we need to return to reapply for a visa
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i have absolutely no idea on thataone michael
the captain will be back tomorrow to post the answer - and there will be others who'll pitch in for the same by and by.



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ok thanks for replying anyway brishti, as I say I am at the early stages of exploring everything before deciding whether it is going to be the right move- I hope that it will be!
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thanks, so I should be looking to nett a minimum of 12 lakhs a month after tax and housing costs?
A bit confused. Why 12 lakhs monthly, when Captain said that 1 lakh was high-end living? Or did you mean 12 lakhs per year?
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Sorry, you are right I meant that I should nett around 12 Lakhs a year plus housing costs?
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phew, was wondering what sort of lifestyle you were aiming for!


Don't know the answer to your question though, sorry.
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phew, was wondering what sort of lifestyle you were aiming for!


Don't know the answer to your question though, sorry.
Thanks anyway- although if I could earn 12 Lakhs a month nett, I feel sure my wife would find a way of spending it!
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