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#91 Sep 28th, 2010, 17:46
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I'm guessing --- but I think this verification is bull. How can they have access to another country's passport information. I'd call their bluff on that one.

Yes... you should get actual "original" copies, each one signed and stamped. There is a charge for that. It is just a few rupees each copy. Please note that when I say "just a few" I am talking about numbers like 5, 10, 20 --- not hundreds.

I did warn you not to expect anything romantic. Ours wasn't, and it went on without any of this unpleasantness.

Your husband or his family have no VIP friends? Senior policemen or even junior politicians?

The assistance of a lawyer might help, although they usually only just inflate the cost. If you do use one, I'd suggest not to use one of the guys local to that office, as they are quite likely to be in on the deal. We were met by touts who offered to arrange everything for thousands: the entire cost of our register office wedding, including two small "tips" and a number of certificates was about Rs250.

Wishing you both well...
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As Nick mentioned, this verification is bull****. There is nothing to verify from their end.
I am asking again, which place is this. The Registrar is the Big guy in the Office, the one who will solemnise your marriage, the one who conducts your marriage. If you can get to him and talk, as i mentioned in my earlier post, then it can be helped. If HE is hand in glove with the other guys in demanding money, then I am sorry, there is very little to do at the moment. These guys will find it difficult to handle a tough talking foreigner if you can pull it off, but this has the risk of not having a fallback option.You can still complain, but after your marriage has happened to the Vigilance dept.

I have frankly never heard of a five figure demand for a marriage. Your guy, and his family needs to be strong, they need to take help from someone local and important or get to local media about this outrageous demand to get a marriage performed.
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Originally Posted by narendra.d View Post As Nick mentioned, this verification is bull****. There is nothing to verify from their end.
I am asking again, which place is this. The Registrar is the Big guy in the Office, the one who will solemnise your marriage, the one who conducts your marriage. If you can get to him and talk, as i mentioned in my earlier post, then it can be helped. If HE is hand in glove with the other guys in demanding money, then I am sorry, there is very little to do at the moment. These guys will find it difficult to handle a tough talking foreigner if you can pull it off, but this has the risk of not having a fallback option.You can still complain, but after your marriage has happened to the Vigilance dept.

I have frankly never heard of a five figure demand for a marriage. Your guy, and his family needs to be strong, they need to take help from someone local and important or get to local media about this outrageous demand to get a marriage performed.
I think even the additional district magistrate (the one who will perform the solemnization of the marriage) is involved because the staff keeps coming back and forth from his office then talking to us. My husband is a businessman and we have some companions with us who has some relation to local politics. I believe they are talking like that because they think we are BIG people in the industry. But it shouldn't matter, whether we are rich or not, they should solemnize our marriage since it is 30 days already.

Just an update, we got call from the staff again, they seem to be desperate for money as well. We are trying to negotiate on 7,000 INR only since we shouldn't be paying even anything as we have all the legal documents. And today, they agreed on 7,000 INR The thing is, we will give it tomorrow but the marriage will take place on Thursday. So, we will give the money before they solemnize and give marriage certificate. I just hope this is not a part of their propaganda where they will take the money then forget about the deal on Thursday.

I have my return flight on Oct. 4. So, Thursday we'll get certificate (hopefully), then I only have Friday to go to MHA and FRRO. My husband's passport is still on its way so I'm afraid even MHA will refuse since his passport is not yet available. But he has his election card and other stuff already. I'm just disappointed, if they solemnized and gave the certificate today, at least we still have 3 days to go to MHA and FRRO, but because of their stupid demands, I only got 1 day to fix my visa extension. If all else fails, I will just have to go back on Oct. 4 and plan again on how to get married and get X visa.

I will update you on how things will go. I am planning to file a complaint if they won't do what we have agreed upon on Thursday. Wish me luck guys.
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If all else fails, I will just have to go back on Oct. 4 and plan again on how to get married and get X visa.
Whilst it would be tedious and disapointing, it would take the stress off. Might take another trip home to get the visa though.

This guys want their money: they also do not want to be arrested. A whisper in the ear from a political friend and all their demands can be off.

It is all much easier said than done. We paid up over the house registration, although we fixed the amount and refused to pay more. The vigilance people would take you seriously; there was a recent sting operation here on an Electricity official who was asking about 11,000 to arrange a connection was arranged by them. They carted him off, and made sure the application was accepted by the EB. Mind you, I wonder how long it took his friends to do the installation.

Good luck
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Whatever you do, do it on or before Friday. Sat is closed for Gandhi Jayanthi.
Best wishes and More luck.
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Hello,

My self an experimental film maker from India. I wanna visit to Philippines next month for 20 days to explore culture,cinema,people,food and meet friends.

I am confuse about the my invitation letter..which kind of invitation letter I required to enter in Philippines as a tourist...!?

can anyone help me with my confussions? Do anyone provide me sample letter that how its looking? any example!

I need sample invitation letter for tourist.

Please Guide me

Reply me soon

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Hi guys,

I'd like to thank all of those who gave their opinions on my situation. We got the certificate but we had to pay a very big amount. They did not agree on smaller amount we were trying to negotiate. Getting our marriage solemnized was a very traumatic experience for me and my husband. If only I can tell all details. It was a hell day for us but the process at the MHA for extending my visa was the opposite. I was able to get extension until investigation is going on for conversion of my X visa on grounds of marriage. This was a very stressful week for me but I'm just glad I can now stay and no need to go home.

I believe prayers really work and keeping hope and faith will surely get you through all obstacles in life.

Bottom line, Thursday we got the certificate at around 8 PM IST; Friday, we went to MHA for visa conversion, submitted docs at 10:00 a.m. and returned at 5 PM to get the result. I am not allowed to open the envelope to be given to FRRO tomorrow but I asked the staff if I could know if I have to go back home since my flight is Oct. 4 and he happily informed that they have given me extension so I just have to go to FRRO to get my visa stamped again, then we'll just wait for the police report regarding our marriage for the conversion of my X visa. Well, I hope the investigation will go smoothly since we are living together and legally married already.

Special mention to Nick-H and narendra, you guys are always there to give your opinions. Thanks a lot I found people like you on indiamike and thanks to the moderator of this site. =)
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Well done to both of you, and congratulations and the best of wishes to you both.

Everything has worked out well, except for an amount of money. Well... you could go to the police, you could go to the Vigilance people, or you could put it behind you.

I have to thank you for making me think all the more fondly of the registrar who handled my marriage. How lucky we were! Still, as I said before, it was hardly romantic, and didn't actually make me feel married, so I was very glad we had our own informal ceremony.

Keeping fingers crossed on your visa conversion: may it happen quickly, but I wouldn't rely on it! Not that it is a problem as long as you are not wanting to go anywhere else. You can be getting on happily with life while you are waiting.

Once again, I'm so happy to hear your news. For my small (just a few words, that's all) contribution, you are most welcome.
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Finally ..... Great news.

Hearty Congratulations and a Lifetime of happiness together for two of you.
And a well deserved kick in the behind for the guys at the Registrar's office.
I think the guys at the MHA treated this issue with a lot more humaneness and understanding than those idiots at the Registrar.

Any way just put this behind and just remember the good things in this whole episode.

But pl tell me which place this is in?
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Originally Posted by narendra.d View Post Finally ..... Great news.

Hearty Congratulations and a Lifetime of happiness together for two of you.
And a well deserved kick in the behind for the guys at the Registrar's office.
I think the guys at the MHA treated this issue with a lot more humaneness and understanding than those idiots at the Registrar.

Any way just put this behind and just remember the good things in this whole episode.

But pl tell me which place this is in?
Thanks guys! We are in Delhi. They said Delhi has the most corrupt officials and it's absolutely right. But I have to exclude the officer at the FRRO. He was very much willing to help but his position is lower than those corrupt officials. MHA told me the FRRO has no right to extend tourist visa. So I guess we were just lucky in that aspect that the FRRO officer helped me without asking for anything in return.

Our marriage officer is the Additional District Magistrate here in Delhi. Everything was done "under the table," with him indirectly negotiating. So, I wouldn't want to drop specific names as I have no evidence to prove it if he sees my posts. All we know is the truth but to prove it to the high court would be useless without any strong evidence.
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hi, teepeemel, hope u married already,iam a philipina too. we are also planning to marry in kerala, please share ur experience if possible, please email me j1980jon32@yahoo.com
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Originally Posted by santanusengupta View Post Hi every one as i see this post i thought that i should add my experience .This year i went to phillipines to marry my gf .i took a tourist visa of 1month and the day i reached there both of us went to the municipality and registered our self for the marriage date .our marriage date was fixed 14days after n we got married .2 months after i received our marriage cert from the Nso.basic doccuments that was needed was

1.Birth Certificate.
2.Certficate of Singleness.
3.Passport photocopy.

This is the easier way because we tried to get married in the church but their process were too long and you have to change your religion.The entire process will take more than a month but you will get a visa for only 30days.
Hello santanu, read your post. it was helpful. i have a question regarding getting the marriage license. I am an indian ,and planning to get marrige in phils. so as per the philippine law i need to get a certificate of legal capacity of marriage from indian embassy to apply for marriage license. can you let me know how you applied for "the certificate of legal capacity to marriage" in indain embassy and how much time it took to get that certificate. what are the do's and dont's while marrying in the phils.
your inputs will really be helpful..thank you...
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Originally Posted by jimmykaran View Post Hello santanu, read your post. it was helpful. i have a question regarding getting the marriage license. I am an indian ,and planning to get marrige in phils. so as per the philippine law i need to get a certificate of legal capacity of marriage from indian embassy to apply for marriage license. can you let me know how you applied for "the certificate of legal capacity to marriage" in indain embassy and how much time it took to get that certificate. what are the do's and dont's while marrying in the phils.
your inputs will really be helpful..thank you...
@jimmykaran: Ask your fiancee to go to the Indian embassy in Makati to ask for the requirements for the certificate of legal capacity. My Indian husband and I got married here in Manila last December 2010. As early as August, we've started processing our papers because acquiring a legal capacity is quiet a tedious task. Most of the requirements (papers) have to come from India. Since my fiance then was still in India, we made sure that he processed all the papers from there while I processed mine here. Here are what I remember from the experience:

1. I called the Indian embassy to inquire how to get legal capacity. I was told to go there since the first requirement would be personal appearance of the applicant. If the applicant is not in the country, the Filipino who will marry the Indian can get the paper that states the requirement on the Indian's behalf. Louie (the girl from the embassy) wrote on the paper: Filipino came on (date where I went). That piece of paper has to be brought back to the embassy when the requirements are completed.

2. I was able to retrieve the email I sent my husband last year re the requirements. Below, I copy-pasted it:

*Original Indian passport with photocopy

*Origina valid ID of the Indian national

*Original joint or separate affidavit of parents of the Indian national locally notarized from India (Just to be sure, you might want to prepare the death certificate of mom just in case they need it?)

*Copies of valid IDs of the parents

*CENOMAR (Certificate of No Marriage) from NSO (here in Phils) (I will need your authorization for this. I will check if I can get it on your behalf)

*Joint affidavit from Indian and Filipino on how you met each other and what are your plans after getting married (This is funny )

*Original employment certificate from the company of the Indian national

*Certificate of bachelorhood and character verification: Certification issued by the AREA SUBDIVISIONAL MAGISTRATE/COURT AUTHORITIES COUNTER ATTESTED BY THE CONCERNED HOME DEPARTMENT OF THE STATE AND THEN COUNTER ATTESTED BY MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS PATIALA HOUSE.

--Indian national and Filipino national needs to come personally for an interview by the Consul.

--Application is upon approval of the Consul.

--Processing time: 3 working days

--Fee: Php550.00


3. Your fiancee also has a set of requirements. From what I remember, here are what I processed on my end:

*Birth certificate on security paper issued by the NSO and authenticated by the Department of Foreign Affairs.

*Affidavit of singleness notarized and authenticated by the Department of Foreign Affairs. This one is quite a long process. Once she has notarized the affidavit, she will have to bring the notarized paper to the judicial branch where the lawyer was registered (i forgot the legal term for it). I suggest that your fiancee notarize her affidavit at the local municipality near her because chances are, the notary public lawyer is also registered in the regional trial court. The RTC will validate the license of the lawyer. It will take three to five working days. Your fiancee will be given a slip when to claim the aunthenticated certificate. Once she has it, she will bring it to the DFA for another set of authentication. The DFA will attach a blue paper with a red ribbon on it.

*Notarized affidavit of parental consent (even if both of you are of age! )

4. When my husband got here, we've processed all legalities except the joint affidavit on how we met and our plans after marriage. We both had to sign it and be present before the notary public. When we completed it, we immediately went to the Indian embassy. There was no interview. We just have to go there personally.

5. After we got it, we submitted the papers to our pastor who applied the marriage license on our behalf.

Hope this helps. If you have more questions, just let me know. Happy to be of help
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Legal capacity requirements to marry in the Philippines

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Originally Posted by jimmykaran View Post Hello santanu, read your post. it was helpful. i have a question regarding getting the marriage license. I am an indian ,and planning to get marrige in phils. so as per the philippine law i need to get a certificate of legal capacity of marriage from indian embassy to apply for marriage license. can you let me know how you applied for "the certificate of legal capacity to marriage" in indain embassy and how much time it took to get that certificate. what are the do's and dont's while marrying in the phils.
your inputs will really be helpful..thank you...
I checked my mailbox and was able to retrieve the copy of requirements which I scanned and sent to my husband. This is what the Indian embassy will give you/your fiancee. You will have to bring the paper back to them (with the complete requirements) as proof that one of you already went to the embassy.

It is easy to apply for the marriage license once you have the legal capacity issued by the embassy. But to get that legal capacity certificate, that's the tedious part. Good luck and congratulations!
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What a hassle.
Here in the islands people get off a cruise ship in the morning, and two days later get married take the next cruise boat to complete their honeymoon
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