Hotels: Why is everything so expensive ?

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I am really surprised to see the rates of hotels ! I haven't been to India since 1990 and it seems that people don't bat an eye to spend almost 100 US or Euro for a room. These are european hotel rates,, where are the budget clean places left in India ?
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Welcome to the global economy - as a senior person in one India's IT business told me, this is the price for prosperity. This affects the 5-star hotels in the major metro's and has a trickle down effect. On top of that, most of these rooms are paid for business travel by companies. Salaries of IT people are high compared to average Joe, and people are taking vacations and traveling extensively in India and abroad.

Hotels in small towns are also infected through news, and they feel if they can get a slice of the pie, why not?

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global economy... pulease... you sound like a business man. i'm a senior also and i don't mind paying for something that is equal the quality. or at least the ambiance. the trickle down effect. are the poor and needy in India receiving the help from the trickle down effect. i take offense at your "jargon" of why things are so. instead of telling me to look for the blessed rooms and fair deals among these posts why not offer something other than an arrogant business man's attitude. sorry for venting but i didn't appreciate your comment. i will reread it maybe i am over reacting.
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Yes, India has become more expensive maybe more so over the last few years. So have most developing countries playing catch-up. Everybody's idea of 'budget' is different, I personally still manage to travel around india quite comfortably on about GB£10-15($20-30) a day, with the occasional splurge now and again.
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You want it Candy-Coated? Supply & Demand within a two-tiered, double-standard rack rate sytem - especially towards the higher tariffed rooms!
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more useless and non information. no i don't want it candy coated maybe with chocolate. sorry i posted,, i think a lot of people here just like to hear themselves talk and really have nothing to offer other than diatribe.. no help certainly have i found. just blahblah
well now i know.. but i'll find what i need, just white light it and put out the good intention. i was just surprised that's all. i didn't ask for a bunch of know it all men to answer ..
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Calendula - Nattusbs is right - also in the Metros there have been put in place quite heavy taxes on hotels - this also has caused them to raise the prices. Room rates (I think it is over 800 rupees) are attracting taxes plus the cities have an extra tax added. But, if you use your guide book, check out this site under Hotels as he has already suggested you will still find bargains in clean and cheaper places.
I'm not sure what you are referring to as cheaper rates - 30 rupee rooms? These are fast fading because the costs naturally have gone up with inflation. To clean your bedsheets and towel plus employ the staff to clean your room is going to cost a lot more than 30 rupees. Why should hoteliers run at a loss?? You will find rooms like this here provided you do a camel safari with these people. The rooms will be crappy, they will put you out if you don't do your safari. They are running the rooms at a loss, cutting down on cleaning etc. to make their profit from safari. I'm interested in which standard of accommodation you are seeking? Within budget and middle range there are all over India many gems to be found, that are not over-priced.
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seems like you already have the answers to the questions you pose ..... there's a cyber-word for that isn't there???
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Calendula

I am sorry if I upset you - that was not the intent. Let me give you a couple of personal experience.

1. About 8 years ago, I booked online the Taj in Mumbai (beside the Gateway of India) and the Taj in Delhi - got each of them for about US$30 per night, that is around Rs 1500 at that time. What a steal it was - great rooms, great service and they send me an e-mail every year wishing Happy Birthday - that is called personal marketing! The regular rack rate was probably about Rs 8000 and more. Those web sites have disappeared, no more deals like that are available. Do you think I can afford staying there anymore? Only if someone else is paying

2. Last June I was in Hyderabad for a month (took my German Shepard Dog back to live with my parents). A close friend of mine from Canada was visiting and wanted accommodation for a family of 3 in Hyderabad. I know a very good travel agent - she & I met for lunch at this hotel's restaurant just off Paradise, called Hotel Annapurna: the link is http://annapoornaresidency.com/tariff.htm (I have no ties with them). Check out the tariff - about Rs 1500 per night - I have seen the rooms, nice and clean with attached bath. I booked for my friend.

So, tell us where you plan to visit and collectively, I am sure we can give suggestions for deals.

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Originally Posted by calendula View Post more useless and non information. no i don't want it candy coated maybe with chocolate. sorry i posted,, i think a lot of people here just like to hear themselves talk and really have nothing to offer other than diatribe.. no help certainly have i found. just blahblah
well now i know.. but i'll find what i need, just white light it and put out the good intention. i was just surprised that's all. i didn't ask for a bunch of know it all men to answer ..
This is a forum. That's a place where discussion takes place.

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Originally Posted by calendula View Post more useless and non information. no i don't want it candy coated maybe with chocolate. sorry i posted,, i think a lot of people here just like to hear themselves talk and really have nothing to offer other than diatribe.. no help certainly have i found. just blahblah
well now i know.. but i'll find what i need, just white light it and put out the good intention. i was just surprised that's all. i didn't ask for a bunch of know it all men to answer ..
"just like to hear themselves talk"? ... "nothing to offer other than a diatribe"? Are you referring to yourself, perhaps?

Your original question (see below) was hardly a question at all. In fact, it seemed at best to be a rhetorical question, preceded by a rant ... from a "know it all" woman, which got far more serious and thoughtful responses than it deserved, in my opinion. You haven't been to India for 17 or 18 years and you're shocked that prices have gone up? What rock have you been under? And by the way, I had no difficulty finding decent places for well under $100 US when I was in India just three years ago. I might have told you where they were, if you hadn't been so rude to other members who meant well in responding to you.

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Originally Posted by calendula View Post I am really surprised to see the rates of hotels ! I haven't been to India since 1990 and it seems that people don't bat an eye to spend almost 100 US or Euro for a room. These are european hotel rates,, where are the budget clean places left in India ?
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I agree totally and completely
Thanks for writing this.

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Thank you nattusbs. you are a gentleman.
Dzibead, oh okay, thank you. i've been under a rock called amsterdam where i offer a calm, clean and quality guest house for tourists, i answer questions, many of them in a kind fashion. yes i was surprised, about having such a hard time finding a hotel ,, this is a forum... i don't ask for bows or candy.. i never use travel agents and i don't travel with group tours. i offer help when i can. i imagine i am tired. i can find my way and when i do i will help others. I just received some very kind and useful information.. to those people i truly appreciate your help.

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Thanks for writing this.

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Aishah - Thank you for your kind reply, I appreciate your answer and information. I am looking for a room around 50 euros,, not 30 rupees,,,at the time i was searching everything i found was over 100 and 200 euros or dollars. I was shocked. that's all. and the replies i received were nasty,, want it candy coated ? i did take offense at welcome to the global economy but i also said maybe i am over reacting, .. i don't need to defend myself. To those who have been kind and helpful thank you.
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