Ladakh Trip - July 2008

Yogesh Sarkar · Jun 15th, 2008, 14:46

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Originally Posted by vistet

OP pretty much nailed it from the beginning (unless the altitude for Tangtse is badly off the mark ) : acclimatize well around 3500, one night at 4000, next 4600 - close match to ascent guide lines. Going higher than Korzok would need a second night there.

Isn't leh at ~3200M? In which case sleeping at Tangste which if we guess is at 4000M would mean a jump of ~2600ft which is over safe acclimatization limits?

vistet · Jun 15th, 2008, 15:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yogesh Sarkar

Isn't leh at ~3200M?

No...

amarshah · Jun 15th, 2008, 19:38

Leh is at 3522meters ! RITE?

vistet · Jun 15th, 2008, 23:12

Fallingrain cites the altitudes of airports , when there is one . The airport (3486 acc. to Fallingrain) is lower than the Main Bazar , and Changspa is higher than the rest of Leh. 3500 to 3550 is the altitude given by practically everyone , and it checks out in Google Earth.

It´s hard to find places below 3400 along the valley , and this was one of my points in my Srinagar-Leh post: the road gives you a chance to stop both at 2700 and 3100.

Nubra along the Shyok is around 3200. No practical bearing for those wanting to go on to Pangong etc since there will be a night in Leh before anyway. It may or may not be the reason I walked in to the wall on my walkout after a week in Nubra , and I had to put in an extra night just over 4000.

Yogesh Sarkar · Jun 16th, 2008, 01:04

my bad, but still it would be more than 1600ft altitude gain which according to the AMS studies is above safe accent guidelines which hover at 1k feet a night.

vistet · Jun 16th, 2008, 04:42

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Originally Posted by Yogesh Sarkar

.. is above safe accent guidelines which hover at 1k feet a night.

Not really :

"- If possible, you should spend at least one night at an intermediate elevation below 3000 meters.
- At altitudes above 3000 meters (10,000 feet), your sleeping elevation should not increase more than 300-500 meters (1000-1500 feet) per night.
- Every 1000 meters (3000 feet) you should spend a second night at the same elevation."

OK , Korzok would be 600+ meters - well , it´s not a perfect world.

One bonus point with the Nubra leg , taken just before Pangong Tso , would be going 5300+ back to Leh , giving some positive acclimitization stress.

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Yogesh Sarkar · Jun 16th, 2008, 11:10

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Originally Posted by vistet

Every 1000 meters (3000 feet) you should spend a second night at the same elevation."

In that case sleeping at Lukung/Spangmik (900meter altitude gain) would mean that she would have to sleep at the similar altitude next day?

kritikal · Jun 23rd, 2008, 12:08

Well, I guess we will just stick to the original plan of sleeping at Tangtse right now. Once we reach there and depending on the severity (or hopefully, the lack of it) of AMS, maybe we will improvise on the plans!

A couple of other questions:

1. Any specific guest houses at Leh that any of you would recommend? We are thinking of Padma Guest House, around Fort Road.

2. In the interest of 'optimising' our backpacks, do we really need sleeping bags? We will probably be halting at Keylong on the way back to Manali.

Thanks!

amarshah · Jun 23rd, 2008, 12:32

Frankly Padma GH is much inside and expensive around 1k i guess. See Tso Moriri GH on the main road and Rs 500. A new one called Mayflower closer to the main Fort road (in on bylane) is for 300.

Keylong you will get hotels. I doubt you would use ya sleeping bag

kritikal · Jun 23rd, 2008, 14:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by amarshah

Frankly Padma GH is much inside and expensive around 1k i guess. See Tso Moriri GH on the main road and Rs 500. A new one called Mayflower closer to the main Fort road (in on bylane) is for 300.

Keylong you will get hotels. I doubt you would use ya sleeping bag

Thanks Amar!

Apparently, the HPTDC bus between Leh and Manali has a night stay in tents at Keylong. We are hoping to take a share jeep to Manali, but in case we end up taking the bus, wouldn't we need sleeping bags for the tents? Does it get really cold in the nights in July?

gaurang · Jun 23rd, 2008, 14:35

Hi Guys,

I m new to IM. I wanted to know which tour operator is the best for taking a jeep safari from Manali-Leh-Srinagar ? I am from Bombay and planning a trip sometime August end. Would preffer a tour operator from Mumbai. Thanks in advance for any reply.

Gaurang

amarshah · Jun 23rd, 2008, 15:37

Are yuo sure it has a night stay at Keylong, to what i know is that HPTDC buses stop at Sarchu whereas the JKTRC ones stop at Keylong.

Anyways Keylong have decent hotels so no need. Infact Sarchu tents would have quilts etc so you need not carry !

kritikal · Jun 23rd, 2008, 18:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by amarshah

Are yuo sure it has a night stay at Keylong, to what i know is that HPTDC buses stop at Sarchu whereas the JKTRC ones stop at Keylong.

Anyways Keylong have decent hotels so no need. Infact Sarchu tents would have quilts etc so you need not carry !

The HPTDC website mentions " night stay in tents, dinner and breakfast at Keylong ".

Anyway, it's a big relief that we don't need sleeping bags. Thanks

amarshah · Jun 24th, 2008, 11:32

nice do reconfirm with voice once if you can to be double sure, as at the bus stand i was told otherwise !

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gaurang Gaurang Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4	Can i join a tour of Manali-Leh-Srinagar ? Hi Guys, I m new to IM. I wanted to know which tour operator is the best for taking a jeep safari from Manali-Leh-Srinagar ? I am from Bombay and planning a trip sometime August end. Would preffer a tour operator from Mumbai. Thanks in advance for any reply. Gaurang

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vistet Maha Guru Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Umeå , Sweden Posts: 1,734	Fallingrain cites the altitudes of airports , when there is one . The airport (3486 acc. to Fallingrain) is lower than the Main Bazar , and Changspa is higher than the rest of Leh. 3500 to 3550 is the altitude given by practically everyone , and it checks out in Google Earth. It´s hard to find places below 3400 along the valley , and this was one of my points in my Srinagar-Leh post: the road gives you a chance to stop both at 2700 and 3100. Nubra along the Shyok is around 3200. No practical bearing for those wanting to go on to Pangong etc since there will be a night in Leh before anyway. It may or may not be the reason I walked in to the wall on my walkout after a week in Nubra , and I had to put in an extra night just over 4000.

Jun 16th, 2008, 01:04	#20
Yogesh Sarkar Maha Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Delhi (India) Posts: 1,074	my bad, but still it would be more than 1600ft altitude gain which according to the AMS studies is above safe accent guidelines which hover at 1k feet a night.

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kritikal Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bombay Posts: 24	Well, I guess we will just stick to the original plan of sleeping at Tangtse right now. Once we reach there and depending on the severity (or hopefully, the lack of it) of AMS, maybe we will improvise on the plans! A couple of other questions: 1. Any specific guest houses at Leh that any of you would recommend? We are thinking of Padma Guest House, around Fort Road. 2. In the interest of 'optimising' our backpacks, do we really need sleeping bags? We will probably be halting at Keylong on the way back to Manali. Thanks!

Jun 23rd, 2008, 12:32	#24
amarshah Maha Guru Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 686	Frankly Padma GH is much inside and expensive around 1k i guess. See Tso Moriri GH on the main road and Rs 500. A new one called Mayflower closer to the main Fort road (in on bylane) is for 300. Keylong you will get hotels. I doubt you would use ya sleeping bag

Jun 23rd, 2008, 15:37	#27
amarshah Maha Guru Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 686	Are yuo sure it has a night stay at Keylong, to what i know is that HPTDC buses stop at Sarchu whereas the JKTRC ones stop at Keylong. Anyways Keylong have decent hotels so no need. Infact Sarchu tents would have quilts etc so you need not carry !

Jun 24th, 2008, 11:32	#29
amarshah Maha Guru Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 686	nice do reconfirm with voice once if you can to be double sure, as at the bus stand i was told otherwise !

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